Snuff films

reply to post by SniperEye


there are snuff films out there if you investigate enough you can find them not the actual videos but evidence and there are no snuff porn film shops or anything like that snuff films are sold for millions to high bidders sick politicians rich maybe unknown millionaires believe me there out there but you wont have much luck finding them

there is a very rare film out there called AUGUST UNDERGROUND MORDEM its like a fake snuff film but pretty graphic ive also seen pictures that looked really disgusting and they came from unknown sources as far as i could trace back the original person who put them online made a good job of covering his tracks

reply to post by StarChild


and where would one find

snuff movies are real coz nicholas cage had 1. i saw it on t.v. he had a fight with the man in the garden & it was aphex twin & there was snuff movies.

The sick fact is, certain individuals do indeed kill one another for sexual gratification. Without a doubt, these people own camcorders of some sort. So, it's not a huge leap to then assume that such films exist.

Indeed, I believe that in the case of Leonard Lake and Charles Ng, rapes and murders were filmed by the duo and later submitted as evidence at trial. Now, these films aren't snuff films as such, as they were never intended for commercial sale.

I personally believe that snuff flicks exist, but they're not widely available for obvious reasons.

There's an excellent documentary of snuff films called, appropriately, Snuff.

Some people have talked about the 'faces of death' series which are mostly fake.

I've seen the other videos called 'traces of death' at a friends house years ago. It was very disturbing, bad quality and extremely nasty. I don't know if it counts as a snuff movie though.

en.wikipedia.org...

Scenes include an Iraqi man tied between two jeeps and pulled apart (ripping his arm off) before being chased and shot with rifles. A paedophile being executed by the victims father and various suicides, autopsies, sex changes and accidents.

Very, very grim stuff. Some of it i believe is real, some of it isn't...

k seriously though. you guys need to stop the conjecture & speculation. this thread is academic because they already actually found one. it ticks all the boxes! ie that somebody was killed on camera for purposes of sexual gratification & making profit from the sale of the tape. check it out for yourselves. it happened in a barn in Germany. the police found the body & the tape & the culprits. who informed the police that their intention was to sell it in America for the monetary sum of $16,000 dollars. which would make the tape a snuff film. this is well documented. comments? questions?

reply to post by drunknhorny

And that films name is?
Or a url to the story?
Any more info other than run on sentences?
Thanks

Originally posted by mr-lizard
What a world we live in when we can watch executions, beheadings and murders at the click of a button eh?

I used to work with a guy who had a number of videos on his phone, such as russian and afghan beheading videos, brutal videos of gang fights and beatings and very violent porn, he would brag about the latest video and show them to everyone in work.

I often wonder about him and his mental state.

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Whilst we're on topic, I did read somewhere that a large amount of snuff films are made in mexico and other poor countires. Supposedly groups of Westerners travel to these places and organise kidnappings (usually women) and pay off the authorities with huge bribes.

These women end up in snuff videos, tortured and killed for the camera.

Or so i read somewhere...

There are no snuff films made in Mexico, that's just ignorant talk, and some "I read somewhere" BS, oh yeah, I bet it was on geocities, or was it a blogspot?

um yeh sure. ok heres wot i got it happened in nov 1997. 2 guys kidnapped a girl from the christmas market in dortmund. they tortured her but she actually escaped & led the police to a farmhouse in haagen where they found the body of a 21 year old turkish prostetute. they had tortured & sexually abused her her body was tightly bound & her head was covered in tear proof tape. she actually eventually died through sufocation. they found a room also that had been fitted with carpet to soundproof so screams couldnt be heard. they also found a tape consisting of 2 minutes & 3 seconds of torture & murder which led them to believe it had taken place over a number of hours. the torturers name was causen (i think i spelled it correctly) he was abused as a child regularly. the other guy was called maan. they were both jailed in april 1999. the pair confessed they were planning on selling it for $16,000 dollars u.s.

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oooh look! i found a link. www.youtube.com... its got an article about it on this doc. its a bit of a retarded doc though because they have a feature on this video & then in the final part they are still asking wether snuff movies exist. after they actually covered documented evidence that they infact do. i mean duh!

why am i watching? interests of investigative journalism. i study images & oftern de bunk fakes. i study details like paticle cohesion & entry & exit times on bullit wounds. the "wind effect" on hair from muzzle flash & smoke from bullet chambers. all of these things can tell us if a film is fake & if it isnt its time to call the police & share every last piece of information i can get out of the recording. its actually for a paper i am writing on the decline of civilisation & the psychology behind it. also ways of looking at material to determin factors. does that answer your question?

Originally posted by mr-lizard
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Scenes include an Iraqi man tied between two jeeps and pulled apart (ripping his arm off) before being chased and shot with rifles.

Talk about coincidence! Not a week ago did I webbernet myself about and find a vid clip with that exact scene in it. Must say, very peculiar to watch, knowing it wasn't a Hollywood film with special effects.

"displeasurable behavior" lol. yes virriocha you have no "manners & decorum". you obviously lack the correct "social graces" & "reasonable civilities" to engage in the corect form of polite discussion.

Originally posted by junglejakeI won't watch faces of death, and have left a party because a friend of mine put it on. There is no chance I'll ever watch, or even try to find, snuff films.

I think that quite a bit if faces of death (the non accident clips) were debunked as staged for shock value.

Originally posted by SniperEye
i used to have Snuff films on my computer but deleted it becuz i couldnt beleive they were on my HD when i'd try to go to sleep at night

you can download a ton off of Kazaa, just type in 'snuff'


i had one of a sicko executing a poor blonde woman that was crying her eyes out, he shot her with what looked like a 38 revolver

Also 2 russian terrorists killing hostages in the russian forrests, it showed one of the hostages get stabbed in the neck with a knife that looked like Rambo's


Its disturbing man, really is

Oh my gosh, that is sooo sick. Why would you have that on your hard drive??????

Snuff might exist and I wouldn't be surprised if it does. Once a hollywood movie comes out on a topic it's because there are some minimal basis to it.

I think it is the most incorrible that can exist and this is truly where you can see demons and devils at play. ::shivers::

omfg! why are people STILL speculating whether they exist?! i just posted proof that they do!!!!

oh hey the blonde woman clip? you may be relieved to hear that one is fake. if its the same clip? it was publicly exposed a while back.
1. the entry & exit wounds apear to late.
2. theres no smoke from the bullit chamber.
3.theres no paticle matter from the exit wound.
4.the blood sprays out in one jet where as it would break up into a mist of droplets.
5.the bullit entry wound on her forehead moves position as her head rotates backwards.
6. her head rotated backward where as it would actually be propelled forward believe it or not.

There are no snuff films made in Mexico, that's just ignorant talk, and some "I read somewhere" BS, oh yeah, I bet it was on geocities, or was it a blogspot?

I'm far from ignorant. It isn't BS, so either back down and calm down or go to a thread that doesn't upset your delicate sensibilities or better yet another forum.

No i didn't read it on a blog or geo cities. I've heard it from several different sources that Mexico has a 'snuff trade'.

In fact i think another member on this or another thread actually mentions seeing snuff movies available in a Mexican market.

Also a quick google shows that my assumptions are solely based on what i've read and been told:

www.socialism.com...

'The killers,' adds Marisela's colleague Rosario Acosta, 'take no trouble to cover up evidence, like most murders. With these, the evidence is brazen, right there, every time. Whoever is doing this knows they are immune from the law.'

One trick involved the police: the mother of one girl was, to her surprise, invited to the station to see if she could identify someone being sexually assaulted in a grainy video. She could - it was her daughter. 'When our search teams fail to find a body, one appears next day,' says Ortiz. 'There's some code: "Just letting you know we are here." Women are laid out in crosses, mutilated in a certain way; some signs we cannot decipher.'

www.labforculture.org...

350 women murdered, and more than 500 disappeared in a town called Ciudad Juárez, that is in the border of México and the United States.By the time we had finished our investigation there were 8 reasons for the murdered women: drug trade, human smuggling, violent sexual crimes, passion crimes, satanic religious cults, organ smuggling, snuff films, and I´m forgetting one. There are people in jail for committing all this sorts of crimes, and there are dead women that were victims of this crimes.

Not just Mexico though.

www.guardian.co.uk...

British authorities yesterday confirmed that scores of Kuznetsov's videos, produced in his small flat in Moscow's rundown Vykhino district, have been found in the UK. They are concerned that 'snuff' movies in which children are killed may have also been imported.

We have seen some very, very nasty stuff involving sadistic abuse of very young children, but actual deaths on film takes it a whole step further. That is very worrying,' said one senior customs officer this weekend.

there certainly seems to be a great deal of information about the south american trade but so far we arent dealing in absolutes. in order to identify a snuff fil we requre substantial physical evidance that a. sombody was killed & b. the motive for that killing was one of sexual gratification & monitary greed. for the purposes of research it is no good saying i heardor i read somewhere unless it is first hand evidance of the movies existance. ie statements given by a police oficer who has physical proof that we are dealing with snuff. we cant speculate here! WE HAVE TO DEAL IN ABSOLUTES!! yes accounts given by witnesses that this happened or that happend can help find what we are ultimately looking for but it doesnt physically identify a snuff movie. the information i gave did tick all the boxes & was hiding in plain sight. its strange that a full acount was given on film & distributed & yet people continue to question wether snuff physically exists. it just got lost somewhere in peoples attention spans & people caried on searching for somthing they already have & i find this very strange! the real question is to what extent to these movies exist & how can we physically find them more efectively than we have. the reason these things get lost & or forgotten is the shier epic amount of data out there & the medias desire not to over publicise if they actually do find a real one (like the one i posted the article about).