Naked Wizard Tasered at Coachella

Originally posted by adigregorio
reply to post by Redpillblues

 

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Watch the video people! He does not seriously resist arrest until the cop knees him.

So theres a difference of resisting and seriously resisting??
When he runs the cops are obligated to subdue the criminal by the next set of means,in this case a taser after trying to subdue him with just force..
The crowd was just as bad as the people on here,a buch of cop haters..plain and simple..

reply to post by Redpillblues


I knew someone would say that, easier than talking a losing point huh?

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Forgot to answer your question, Doh!

Resisting Arrest = Seriously
Resisting Arrest Without Violence = Not Seriously
(Both are real charges)
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People hate things that they feel are a threat, and many of our police are becoming just that. I was so happy to see that the average thought at that event was of disgust at the actions of the police.

And say he deserved it all you want, as far as I know 2 wrongs still do not make a right

[edit on 4/24/2009 by adigregorio]

the cops gave him PLENTY of oppertunity to comply,and probably would have just been warned and sent on his way..I'm sorry he was the dumb ass and yes he got what he deserved..

What woulda happened if when he broke free and trampled a woman that resulted with a broken bone or worse?I would bet ya dollars to doghnuts that whent through the cops minds as he pulled the trigger..To protect the people that were booing them..Should they have just let him run?And whos responsible for the mahem that woulda persued..??They where obviously dealing with a person a few frys short of a happy meal either by drugs or booze,or even possibly worse like a mental disorder,the cops do not know that so they are trained to survey the situation and react with opposing force,AFTER he SEIOUSLY resisted and started to take off they subdued him by taser...Once again should they have just said,# it boys lets just go get some doghnuts,the crowd obviously doesnt want us to be here??

think hard about the possible out comes and rethink about having to taser him..It coulda ended up much different by alot of means,either giving him a heat attack or him harming an innocent person..Its all chance..we dont know what coulda happend and cops try not to use hind sight to make desicions..

Originally posted by Redpillblues
What woulda happened if when he broke free and trampled a woman that resulted with a broken bone or worse?

What would have happened if a bright blue pig flew out of the naked fellows butt? Doesn't matter because we are talking about what DID happen, not what COULD HAVE happened.

Originally posted by Redpillblues
I would bet ya dollars to doghnuts that whent through the cops minds as he pulled the trigger..To protect the people that were booing them..

I did not know you could read minds! That is exactly what the cops were thinking? Are you sure you were not picking up another cop in a different city? Or maybe we do not really know what that cop was thinking? That is why I base my judgements on an action not a person, and in my opinion there was no need to (gonna bold this)

knee the naked fellow in the chest BEFORE he started to "seriously" (Read my prievous post) resist arrest.

Originally posted by Redpillblues
Should they have just let him run?

That is not the point, the should not have acted the way they did in their capture of this person.

Originally posted by Redpillblues
And whos responsible for the mahem that woulda persued..??They where obviously dealing with a person a few frys short of a happy meal either by drugs or booze,or even possibly worse like a mental disorder...

Ahh back to mind reading, and fortelling of the future! Both of these are pointless because we do NOT KNOW what they were thinking, nor do we know the future, MOOT!

your forgeting that cops are paid to prevent thigs from happening,if in there control..Not let things get outa control on there watch..I dont have ESP,just like you and the cops in this case so they prevent the what ifs and not say coulda woulda,shoulda after the fact.. thats the point I'm making..

Originally posted by Redpillblues
your forgeting that cops are paid to prevent thigs from happening,if in there control..Not let things get outa control on there watch..

I thought cops are paid to defend the rights of an individual when they are being violated by force of another individual. I'm not a cop though, so I don't personally know what oath(s) they take.

I am also not aware that we've been implementing "pre-crime" law enforcement... but now it all makes sense.

Originally posted by eMachine

Originally posted by Redpillblues
your forgeting that cops are paid to prevent thigs from happening,if in there control..Not let things get outa control on there watch..

I thought cops are paid to defend the rights of an individual when they are being violated by force of another individual.

Two answers to this..
1..Either they were responding to a complaint by another,or if on a random patrol they were implementing the law set forth to protect you and I from public nudity..
2.I didnt see any one physicly violated for the cops to defend the naked guy from.Your only rights I'm aware of when cops are in the proccess of arresting you are the miranda rights..

Wow,what a bunch of sheep!,at least some of the posts I read in the thread seem to be saying BAAAA BAAAA BAAAA.

OMG,it's illegal!,Omg it's natural and comfortable!,I really have no idea why nudity would be illegal,unless someone with a dysfunctional wanker,like old fart politicians,would be embarassed by a fully exposed functional one.......

You people really must understand the true purposes for the laws which are written.

Tasering the guy was a bit over the top considering where he was,and the fact he was not being any more disruptive than he was at a Pagan Festival.

DA....no wait....BAAA BAAA BAAA BAAAD naked comfortable wizard guy.

Stupid.

There was a guy a few months ago who was in a car accident in which there was a fire,his clothes were burned off and he was bleeding and running around naked and in shock....They fkn SHOT and killed his azz...I guess wizard boy was lucky!.

As long as you all forget so quickly and accept this horsecrap,it will keep happening.

Baaa Baaa Baaa

All the people standing around allowing this to happen should get their arses kicked for not kicking the cops azzes,how bad does it have to get before people come to the realisation that the bullies are outnumbered,HUH?.

HOW FKN BAD DOES IT HAVE TO GET!!!!!!!!!.

I have no respect for authority,a government of free men does not point guns at it's citizens.

That's COERCION,and last time I checked it was not lawful.

Just keep being stupid.

The only mayhem I witnessed on the video was being raised by the cops.

Bet that never occurred to the majority of you now,did it?.

[edit on 24-4-2009 by chiponbothshoulders]

[edit on 24-4-2009 by chiponbothshoulders]

Come on guys can't anyone see this guy got exactly what he wanted?
What a set up! He did everything he needed to do to get tazed on cue on camera in front of a sympathetic crowd.Obvious him and his camera buddy got the viral video they where looking for. Boo! his freak show sucked!
Now I need to wash my brain.Thanks OP.

Originally posted by Redpillblues

Two answers to this..
1..Either they were responding to a complaint by another,or if on a random patrol they were implementing the law set forth to protect you and I from public nudity..
2.I didnt see any one physicly violated for the cops to defend the naked guy from.Your only rights I'm aware of when cops are in the proccess of arresting you are the miranda rights..

My rights, as I understand them, do not impose any obligations on others, except that they leave me alone to peacefully exercise them. I require nothing else of my fellow man.

As for implementing the law... there are laws still on the books in some locales which dictates where a person can tie their horse to a post/tree or whatnot. I don't think I would like to see an Amish man arrested for violating such a law, in order to protect me from possibly stepping in horse excrement.

Edited to add:

So, the Bill of Rights no longer applies to people being arrested? What about the 5th, 6th, 7th and 8th Amendments? I kinda think the practice of reading the Miranda Rights to someone being arrested serves the purpose of making them aware of their constitutional rights which apply to that particular situation.

[edit on 4/24/2009 by eMachine]

see thats the wonderfull thing about laws..If the entire local you speak of with regards to the horse poo didnt mind,it protects the rights of the 1 sole person that choses to exercise there right not to step in it..Just because you may be ok with it doesnt mean that some one else shouldnt be..I dont drive with a seat belt on,I exept the responsibility of not wearing it,but if pulled over I also expect to get a ticket for it..
And lets not forget,that if no one called the cops on this guy if its on the books the city or state can press charges of public nudity..

Lets remember people that justice is blind..It doesnt matter if being naked if the in thing at a pagen festival or not,it evidently was against the law..Dosnt matter if the cop inquestion was a part time nudist or not,the wizard forced there hand to do this to him..

Originally posted by Redpillblues
....the people on here,a buch of cop haters..plain and simple..

yup. i hate cops. no, seriously, i do.

i wish with all of my heart and soul that i did not live in a world where coercion by force is deemed a necessity.

i guess you could also interpret that to mean that i ought to be hating criminals. but, no. i just hate cops (and anyone else that has a presumption of authority).

and i do not apologise for it.

Originally posted by Redpillblues
see thats the wonderfull thing about laws..If the entire local you speak of with regards to the horse poo didnt mind,it protects the rights of the 1 sole person that choses to exercise there right not to step in it..Just because you may be ok with it doesnt mean that some one else shouldnt be..
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And lets not forget,that if no one called the cops on this guy if its on the books the city or state can press charges of public nudity.

I believe exercising the right to not step in horse dung is as simple as walking around it. Why should a law or enforcement of it be necessary?

I'm not against laws or law enforcement, but I generally think that the time and energy of the individuals who work in this field should not be wasted on issues that people could have handled on their own. As I stated in my first post in this thread, some measures to make him aware that his actions were not welcome there could have resolved the issue.

Also, I'm assuming this event was on private property, as most similar events are. If this is the case, I don't consider it "public" regardless of how many people attended. The property owner and/or event manager had every right to tell the man to leave the property, and it even would have been within their rights to remove him.

I've seen security volunteers zip-tie a girl's wrists and remove her safely from an event like this one because she was tripping out on '___'. No law enforcement was necessary and there was no law suit afterward.

If this event was held on private property, I can't imagine why the property owners would invite law enforcement knowing that there were probably other illegal activities going on there, which they could be held accountable for.

Anyway, once again, I am not against laws or law enforcement. I just think we as people should not have to call them for every offensive thing we witness.

reply to post by tgidkp


Just curious, since you hate cops, what mechanism would you advocate for keep our countries civilized?

Right now, if there is a traffic accident, you call the police.

If someone is breaking into your house, you call the police.

You see someone robbing the local minimart... you call the police.


What would you advocate instead of the police?

Originally posted by eMachine


I believe exercising the right to not step in horse dung is as simple as walking around it. Why should a law or enforcement of it be necessary?

I agree 110% with you on this..I see it more and more everyday..I'll give you one example of stupidity..I live in S.Jersey where there is mostly farmland and pine trees..The is a farm that has had roosters for years and years..Every morning for the past 20-30 years the rooster crows at first light everymorning..I personally enjoy it as everyone who has been raised in the area..ONE nuckle head from the city decided to move here and didnt like the rooster...It violated his rights..But on the other hand he wanted to move into the country to get away from the city life..

The point i'm making,and it seems that alot of people are missing,is that laws are made to protect people..Just because you and I may have the ability and the common sence to walk around the poop,doesnt give you or i the right to not let the one person who doesnt not express the law that was written..Though stupid,and a waste of money its still the right of the person,and thats protected by the constitution i beleive..

Originally posted by tgidkp

Originally posted by Redpillblues
....the people on here,a buch of cop haters..plain and simple..

yup. i hate cops. no, seriously, i do.

i wish with all of my heart and soul that i did not live in a world where coercion by force is deemed a necessity./

i guess you could also interpret that to mean that i ought to be hating criminals. but, no. i just hate cops (and anyone else that has a presumption of authority).

and i do not apologise for it.

I have a question for you. I really am curious. Did your parents ever discipline you when you were growing up? I am just asking because I have a theory about people who have problem respecting authority. If it is not too personal, could you answer please?

[edit on 24-4-2009 by justsomeboreddude]

Ever heard of that song by Peter Gabriel called 'Shock the Monkey'? Maybe in honor of this joker we could get him to do a Pagan Disco version called 'Shock the Wizard'. I would buy it. Maybe it could be a charity version where part of the proceeds go to 'enlarging that certain part of the male anatomy'. Trademark. Patent Pending. Not approved by the FDA.

Edit: Because I cant seem to type and think at the same time.

[edit on 24-4-2009 by justsomeboreddude]

What about

dont shock my monkey bro...lol

[edit on 24-4-2009 by Redpillblues]

I'm reading a lot of stuff on here about keeping things civilised through the use of our gallant boys in blue....

Did you know,that a city in cali just stopped prosecuting minor offenses because of budget constraints?.

It is only about money,been about nothing else since around 1918 or thereabouts.

Takes you sheep a long time to notice this sheeeeeeeat,don't it?.

Absolute Power Corrupts Absolutely.

Absolute,Unaccountable Authority is almost as bad.

The guy didn't do anything particularly wrong or resembling violence,until the same was inflicted upon him.

He did nothing wrong but enjoy what he was given in this life,even if it was just a stub.

Was it cold out there?.

The discipline questions are amusing,you wouldn't have wanted to live my childhood,it took me most of my adult life to get over it.

I feel sorry for your chillens......

Forgive them Father,for they know not what they do.......





[edit on 24-4-2009 by chiponbothshoulders]

[edit on 24-4-2009 by chiponbothshoulders]

Originally posted by chiponbothshoulders

The discipline questions are amusing,you wouldn't have wanted to live my childhood,it took me most of my adult life to get over it.

Indeed.

I'm confused about the comments you're referring to though. Is it discipline during childhood that causes us to be compliant or to rebel? I'm really not sure what was being suggested.

Personally, I spent most of my adolescence (ages ~10-17) in the custody of the state for refusing to go to school. My parents were afraid to "discipline me", because they knew Child and Youth Services could easily get involved since my older sister had called them before when she was upset with my dad (her step-dad).

So, I wonder, was the discipline of being in the custody of the government supposed to have made me more compliant, or did it cause me to rebel? Or was complete government control for a number of years not enough to negate my lack of "discipline" earlier in life?

This is neither here nor there for this topic, but I do recall someone inquiring about whether or not the dissenters here were disciplined as children...

(Edited to shorten quote.)

[edit on 4/24/2009 by eMachine]