Why do Atheists care about religion?

All you god-less "nones" out there should find this interesting. "Coming out in the BuyBull Belt."

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reply to post by Gawdzilla


Thanks for the article, mildly amusing! Whats the chance that some church/church goer within the community hired the said billboard- it certainly got publicity! That place must be the "Mecca" for Christians ???

Originally posted by KRISKALI777
reply to post by Gawdzilla

 

Thanks for the article, mildly amusing! Whats the chance that some church/church goer within the community hired the said billboard- it certainly got publicity! That place must be the "Mecca" for Christians ???

I would say "zero" since the atheists put it up. South Carolina is a perfect case of the "lip service Christians". They talk Jesus on Sunday morning and total BS the rest of the week.

reply to post by Gawdzilla


So its B.s 24/7 then I take it! Knew I cool guy from around that region (is that whats known as the Tenderloin?); he was a bounty of crazy stories on Bible -belters; I would listen in amazement!

Originally posted by KRISKALI777
reply to post by Gawdzilla

 

So its B.s 24/7 then I take it! Knew I cool guy from around that region (is that whats known as the Tenderloin?); he was a bounty of crazy stories on Bible -belters; I would listen in amazement!

I have relatives in the area. I used to be stationed there (Charleston) when I was active duty Navy.

reply to post by Welfhard

...Hence the signature. \/ "If you proclaim absolute truth, you are wrong! Quod Gratis asseritur, Gratis negatur... Think about it."

Oh I get that, but 97% of the absolute truth is much better than 50%.
Thus my signature

Originally posted by Blue_Jay33
reply to post by Welfhard

 

...Hence the signature. \/ "If you proclaim absolute truth, you are wrong! Quod Gratis asseritur, Gratis negatur... Think about it."

Oh I get that, but 97% of the absolute truth is much better than 50%.
Thus my signature

No, no, no, you don't get away that easy.

There is no such thing as a partial (%) absolute truth, that is an oxymoron. If it is partial, it is not absolute and if it is absolute, it is not partial.

Also, your belief that it is truth, regardless of how much so, is nought but faith. Faith, as I said, is a belief not based on evidence, or therefore proof, and is therefore entirely subjective. To this I say:
"Quod Gratis asseritur, Gratis negatur".
(meaning, "what is asserted without reason may be denied without reason")

You have no more absolute "truth" than any other religious person, don't pretend that you do.

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Why do Christians care about Atheism? Can't you just leave each other alone? Why do you need to look for enemies?

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reply to post by rizla


No one needs to but in case you haven't noticed, that tends to be human nature, although certain doctrines tend to be modifiers on that.

Originally posted by Welfhard
reply to post by rizla

 

No one needs to but in case you haven't noticed, that tends to be human nature, although certain doctrines tend to be modifiers on that.

I don't think so. I think it moron nature. Extreme christians are always looking for enemies. "OMFG look it's the devil! I am a spiritual warrior! I have been DARK-SIDED ARRGGGH." You get the picture. From what I have seen of christians on this board, they are a paranoid bunch, kind of like a lot of right-wingers in America. I guess they are not very bright.

Maybe it's genetic, maybe it's socialisation. But then, the same could be said of stupidity.

Anyway, have a nice day.

FYI, I am not an athiest. I can't even spell it. I am also not a superstitious paranoid nut.

reply to post by rizla


I think considering known history and considering the social nature of the other great apes (which are also quite violent) I think it's a safer bet that it's our nature.

Originally posted by Welfhard
reply to post by rizla

 

I think considering known history and considering the social nature of the other great apes (which are also quite violent) I think it's a safer bet that it's our nature.

A gross generalization IMO that you need to back up, but perhaps an interesting topic for a thread. More interesting than this thread topic, that's for sure, which has already been regurgitated ad infinitium by superstitious folk looking for devils to combat. Have a nice day !

reply to post by Welfhard

No, no, no, you don't get away that easy. There is no such thing as a partial (%) absolute truth, that is an oxymoron. If it is partial, it is not absolute and if it is absolute, it is not partial. Also, your belief that it is truth, regardless of how much so, is nought but faith. Faith, as I said, is a belief not based on evidence, or therefore proof, and is therefore entirely subjective. To this I say: "Quod Gratis asseritur, Gratis negatur". (meaning, "what is asserted without reason may be denied without reason") You have no more absolute "truth" than any other religious person, don't pretend that you do.

Yes, Yes, Yes, there is some absolute truths, I will give you one example, one that I agree with atheists on, just to make it easier for you to get and understand.
At death regardless of belief structure, humans that die today cease to exist, non-existence, back to the dust, back to the ground. No pain, no thought, nothing.

www.poodwaddle.com...

Something to think about check out the 20 million plus deaths so far this year, and then watch the death counter. Each of those people don't go where they might think they are going regardless of belief, what happens at death to humans is the same for all good or evil. It is an absolute truth.

Now what happens after X number of years at God's appointed time, I understand that part is in dispute for you and I.

But honestly if we were in the same car and we both got killed we would both be in the same place, dead and non-existent.
Do you agree, on this point?

reply to post by Blue_Jay33


"At death regardless of belief structure, humans that die today cease to exist, non-existence, back to the dust, back to the ground. No pain, no thought, nothing."

Fail. Atheists don't claim to know what happens after they're dead, just that the evidence doesn't support any conclusion other than oblivion. So it's not an "absolute" truth, it's a "truth" lacking in evidence to make a call on.

reply to post by Blue_Jay33


I didn't say there was no absolute truth, or that there are "truths" out there that people are at a consensus on, but rather that you don't get any absolute truth that is both 'partial' and 'absolute'.

You're missing the point completely. The point is that you are no more veritably correct than any other religious person, and your faith that you are right is just as foolish and narcissistic as theirs. Stop deceiving yourself.

Originally posted by Gawdzilla
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"At death regardless of belief structure, humans that die today cease to exist, non-existence, back to the dust, back to the ground. No pain, no thought, nothing."

Fail. Atheists don't claim to know what happens after they're dead, just that the evidence doesn't support any conclusion other than oblivion. So it's not an "absolute" truth, it's a "truth" lacking in evidence to make a call on.

Funny, you can't even agree with an atheist on a singular point, they will find a way to twist it back to a "Fail". Carry on then, and at least rest easy knowing when you die you go into oblivion. At the very least you are smarter than the fools that think, there are people that are going to be tortured forever in Hell if they are bad. Opps another truth we can agree on.

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reply to post by Blue_Jay33


"Carry on then, and at least rest easy knowing when you die you go into oblivion."

Still a fail. Note that I said "oblivion" was the default because no other proposal is supported by evidence. More reading, less failing.

Originally posted by Welfhard
reply to post by Blue_Jay33

 

Stop deceiving yourself.

LoL i really like this sentence

Stop deceiving yourself.

As you say there is no evidence of what happens to us after death.
What if you are wrong!! wouldn't that make you the fool!

There is nothing wrong with having a bit of faith

Originally posted by spy66
As you say there is no evidence of what happens to us after death.
What if you are wrong!! wouldn't that make you the fool!

That is completely besides the point. I'm not talking about life after death, I'm talking about blue-jay's faith, (not in god but) in the idea that the bible is completely representative of God, a being not even proven to be existent, when there are thousands of other faiths that disagree. BlueJ then supposes that his/her faith is more correct than theirs with the statement "97% absolute truth is better than 50%".

I believe there is oblivion is waiting for all, however I would sooo love to be wrong. If I die with this belief and it turns out to be wrong, I will not be the fool, God would be for letting me live out my existence under the false impression.

But again, that's irrelevant.

I hate using the ignore feature, but I just did.

Anyways

I believe there is oblivion is waiting for all, however I would sooo love to be wrong. If I die with this belief and it turns out to be wrong, I will not be the fool, God would be for letting me live out my existence under the false impression.

That's a funny statement.
And just how many times have you been told that your false impression could be wrong?