Why do Atheists care about religion?

reply to post by TruthParadox


If I had a "grand solution" I might be famous. People, in general, are morons. They'll keep acting that way until they grow a brain.

that's the like in human beings. Gawdzizi yes we can, yes we can!

reply to post by Gawdzilla


They have a brain. It's not intelligence that's lacking. There's to much indoctrination coupled with a willingness to believe in fairy tales.

Most people can't handle the truth.
It's too simple and mundane.
The purpose of life is to live. That's it.

But people should not be thrown in jail or "sent to Hell" for indoctrination, intelligence, or beliefs.

Actions are what matter.

Once people understand this simple concept, it will seem as though many have "grown a brain".

reply to post by TruthParadox


I agree, to some extent. If you have good thoughts and don't act on them, you're a bad person. And if you have bad thoughts and don't act on them, you're a good person. (Simplification, but I'm no speed typist.)

However, the scary thing for me involves my cousin and my fossil collection. I have a smallish collection I've picked up while running around Missouri* and she was looking at my display cases one day. She stared at them for a long time and then said, "I wonder if we're supposed to ask why God made some creatures out of stone." [forehead smote here]

*Ever wonder why we find fossilized sea creatures in Missouri?

reply to post by Gawdzilla


lol... Indoctrination can make anyone appear stupid, because when you're indoctrinated you'll look for a "way out", no matter how stupid it sounds.
When I was a Christian, I thought scientific dating methods were BS, not because I did any real research, but because that is exactly what I was looking for when I did a google search. Of course I came across a creationist site. But my IQ was no different then than it is now.

People will always find what they want to find. Of course if you want to find the truth, no matter how scary, and if you use logic instead of emotions, it changes the picture completely.
But I really don't think intelligence plays as much of a role as most atheists think.

And I'm sure all of us appear stupid on some level, as you really can't completely escape societal indoctrinations.

reply to post by Gawdzilla


As dumb as the question is, we are always supposed to ask 'why' and how. It's the only thing that makes greater than cockroaches.

Originally posted by Welfhard
reply to post by Gawdzilla

 

As dumb as the question is, we are always supposed to ask 'why' and how. It's the only thing that makes greater than cockroaches.

Strongly concur. I just think the time could be spent more constructively on things that make sense.

Man, it's like you guys crawled in my head and started having a conversation about my thoughts.

I never once wondered why we find fossilized sea creatures in those middle states. It's always made sense that we were at least partially underwater at one time.

Originally posted by Kiltedninja
Man, it's like you guys crawled in my head and started having a conversation about my thoughts.

I never once wondered why we find fossilized sea creatures in those middle states. It's always made sense that we were at least partially underwater at one time.

Actually, the good Lard made them fossil-thingies and stuck them under a few hundred feet of rock so that when we decided to quarry in that precise spot we'd find them and wonder at the foresight He had when creating the world.

Or something like that, anyway.

I watch the video's on YouTube from the atheist's. More so I can get their mindset. I think they are either genuinely concerned that we are being mislead OR just like to spout off how stupid all the people are that believe in God. Maybe both.

There are some very highly educated people that believe in God, I suppose they are just ignorant in one area of life from their perspective.

I so get their perspective on this!

It's like the 9/11 truthers (in this case=atheists) trying to get the people who believe the government story(in this case=belief in God) to see a fresh perspective and then getting frustrated by them not being able to see it because of blind faith in the government. They end up thinking they are blinded need to wake up and still want to help them, that's why they are concerned.

I switched it around so that it would be more understandable.
And just so there is no confusion I believe in God, and that the story of 9/11 from the government is a fraud.

Anyways atheists do you really care, or do you just want to insult people's intelligence?

reply to post by Blue_Jay33


I completely agree. So does the codes. 911 was indeed an inside job, but all the proof is right out of George W Bush's own mouth. George W Bush was not at all dumb, he simply said it outright because people are so asleep that he could come right out and say that it is valuable information to know who really did it (AKA the US government) and no one would know that he did it. They do it often and probably laugh at it later.

reply to post by Blue_Jay33


"Anyways atheists do you really care, or do you just want to insult people's intelligence? "

I wasn't a militant atheist before the ID movement, I was happy without religion and avoided the topic when it came up. Then the schools came under attack by the creationists, and I got worried that we were heading for a theocracy.

reply to post by Gawdzilla


I was a bigger atheist than you up until the lowest point in my life believe me. I would need more irrefutable proof than you for it I kid you not. Then one day God decided to say: "Hey man, you're making the wrong choice here." That same day I saw an old Sunday School teacher of mine. Coincidence? The intervention was direct beyond my comprehension, and now I'm completely on the other side of the table. I guess you could say it was an epiphany, but the Creator is very very much real. As for why atheists care about religion: If they do or don't is not the question. God allows men to turn away from Him so they may find Him later. I had a direct experience with this. The question is do they know that the Bible is written in a timeless sense and applies to every generation including this last one? If God exists outside of the Universe than the word would apply to all generations past, present, future. It's not written in past tense, future tense, present tense but in a timeless sense.

[edit on 30-4-2009 by watchtheashes]

reply to post by watchtheashes


Nice that God spoke to you. However, when I got shot and/or blown up, I had no urge to call on a god. When 19 out of a 20 man team failed to make it to 45 years old, I didn't have an urge to pray. When my wife died while I was in a hospital on a respirator I didn't ask a god why that happened.

reply to post by Gawdzilla


I'm not going to touch on God and this subject as it seems to be very personal for you, and I might seem to instigate more than I should, now that I know this. My worst fear above anything is to see loved ones in suffering, and my second fear is getting shot. Oww speed of sound ouch. Burning hot stove feeling ouch! So with that being said, I consider you a worthy adversary in this whole thing, and I also feel that this is why you don't have faith.

reply to post by watchtheashes

That same day I saw an old Sunday School teacher of mine. Coincidence?

.... Yea, quite probably.

reply to post by Good Wolf


Coincidence is just that co incidence. However this was not. Just like this swine flu, NWO, aliens, demons, UFOs, 2009, 2010, 2011,2012,2013,2014,2015 thing is just a coincidence. The blood moons in the year 2015 all fall on Jewish Holidays. Coincidence or Bible prophecy. You tell me. Jerusalem was recaptured in 1967 and oddly enough there was a blood moon over the temple that night. A Tetrad (or four blood moons on the Jewish Holidays) is only thought to happen once in every 586 years or so. Three Biblical time cycles
can only complete in this time frame as well. Coincidence?

reply to post by Good Wolf


Coincidence is just that co incidence. However this was not. Just like this swine flu, NWO, aliens, demons, UFOs, 2009, 2010, 2011,2012,2013,2014,2015 thing is just a coincidence. The blood moons in the year 2015 all fall on Jewish Holidays. Coincidence or Bible prophecy. You tell me. Jerusalem was recaptured in 1967 and oddly enough there was a blood moon over the temple that night. A Tetrad (or four blood moons on the Jewish Holidays) is only thought to happen once in every 586 years or so. Three Biblical time cycles
can only complete in this time frame as well. Coincidence?

reply to post by Good Wolf


Coincidence is just that co incidence. However this was not. Just like this swine flu, NWO, aliens, demons, UFOs, 2009, 2010, 2011,2012,2013,2014,2015 thing is just a coincidence. The blood moons in the year 2015 all fall on Jewish Holidays. Coincidence or Bible prophecy. You tell me. Jerusalem was recaptured in 1967 and oddly enough there was a blood moon over the temple that night. A Tetrad (or four blood moons on the Jewish Holidays) is only thought to happen once in every 586 years or so. Three Biblical time cycles
can only complete in this time frame as well. Coincidence?

Originally posted by watchtheashes
... Then one day God decided to say: "Hey man, you're making the wrong choice here." That same day I saw an old Sunday School teacher of mine. Coincidence? The intervention was direct beyond my comprehension, and now I'm completely on the other side of the table ...

Lol, wishful thinking IMO.

We all had significant amount of coincidences in our lives. That is certainly not a reason to interpret them as a divine intervention unless you brain is wired to be inclined to do so.

Being Atheist is not about choosing to be an Atheist ...

It is about mind being inclined to be more skeptical and more resistant to brainwashing. I believe that good analogy would be those who are resistant to hypnoses

Here is an interesting read for ya:

Coincidence is the noteworthy alignment of two or more events or circumstances without obvious causal connection.

Wikipedia: COINCIDENCE

Cheers