Respected Foes

reply to post by ziggystar60


Ok...But now you will have to be my friend....FOREVER!
thanks for the honor!

Peace

reply to post by loam


Hey there loam. I have no idea what Kinda Kurious said except for what was quoted by other members here. I have him on IGNORE. (the one and only poster to be put on my ignore list in 5 years) I have found all his posts to be off topic personal insults which always result in the thread being taken off course.

This thread is perfect evidence of that, isn't it?

Originally posted by skeptic1
We need a "Disrespectful Troll" button. Just sayin'.....

Yep. The closest thing we have is the ignore button to protect
us from continual off topic self indulgent trolling.



[edit on 3/31/2009 by FlyersFan]

Originally posted by Zeptepi
...how 'bout those Flyers this year...

They are doing much better than I thought they would. But what really surprises me is how the Boston Ruins .. uh ... Bruins .... are doing! (the Flyers sold their AHL team and they are moving to Allentown ... I think that's a mistake, but they never asked me my opinion )

I would much rather have you as a friend...ma'mam

DONE!

Strictly On Topic:

Since some posters are unfamiliar with the FOE Function as evidenced by this thread, I say: "Don't knock it unless you've tried it."

Aside from simply being added to a Member's Foe List, it adds a helpful visual aid as follows:

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/a7f1687102a4.jpg[/atsimg]

As you are scrolling the seemingly endless pages of threads on any particular topic, it easily identifies those with whom you may not always agree. I don't believe the FRIEND function works the same way. Not sure. ( And as you might very well imagine I don't have many, as I prefer quality to quantity.)

I find it to serve a beneficial function in this feature-rich site.

Perhaps someone could post a thread explaining some other useful tools at our disposal. Like, perhaps, the IGNORE feature. Or maybe, if posters are not inclined to be exposed to dissenting views it would be easier to simply not turn on one's computer or insert a finger in each ear and hum, la la la la la. (Sometimes logic, especially if it defeats your own, can be a bitter pill to swallow.)

It is my hope that free thinkers and seekers of truth may continue to flourish on ATS.

I have attempted to contribute in a positive way.

Thanks for hearing me out.

Respectfully........KK


[edit on 31-3-2009 by kinda kurious]

[edit on 31-3-2009 by kinda kurious]

Originally posted by kinda kurious
[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/a7f1687102a4.jpg[/atsimg]

I just noticed something for the first time, as I have never used the foe option.

On the profiles, friends as "sharp" and foes are "respected", and the banners just say "one of your friends" or "one of your foes".

Frankly, I'm a bit surprised by how the foe banner reads. After finally seeing one, am I the only one who finds it even more objectionable?

Not really the best tool for fostering civil interaction. At a subconscious level, it almost encourages the opposite, imo.



[edit on 31-3-2009 by loam]

Originally posted by loam
Frankly, I'm a bit surprised by how the foe banner reads. After finally seeing one, am I the only one who finds it even more objectionable?

I suspect you will have plenty that will agree.

But please remember it is an "optional function" and an individual choice.

It is only seen by the person who enacted it, who would unlikely deem it "objectionable."

I am happy you were enlightened by my post.

KK

[edit on 31-3-2009 by kinda kurious]

Originally posted by loam
I just noticed something for the first time, ...

That I have a very pretty avatar and when you look at it, it looks like it's moving but it really isn't? Yeah .. cool eh?

Originally posted by Terapin
she held her own quite well without the need to resort to any feminine whiles.

That's my army training. Five years in the US Military will do that to ya'.

Originally posted by kinda kurious
But please remember it is an "optional function" and an individual choice.

It is only seen by the person who enacted it, who would unlikely deem it "objectionable."

Yes, I can imagine our most immature and spiteful members really enjoying that feature.

At best, it appears to be the equivalent of drawing mustaches on people's photos, or at worst, the equivalent to a personal hate list.

Either way, I think the feature even more ridiculous and juvenile now.


[edit on 31-3-2009 by loam]

Originally posted by loam

Originally posted by kinda kurious
But please remember it is an "optional function" and an individual choice.

It is only seen by the person who enacted it, who would unlikely deem it "objectionable."

Yes, I can imagine our most immature and spiteful members really enjoying that feature.
Regardless, I think the feature even more ridiculous and juvenile.

Ummm. I did not invent the function, but simply employ it. Please don't shoot the "messenger." ( Or at least I am a Hamster now and not a troll. I seem to be moving up the food chain on my ultimate goal: bipod.)

It is obvious from your post by inferring only a spiteful / immature member would utilize a readily available function on this site, as I do,that you have already defined my worth and formed your opinion of me. And that is certainly your prerogative. I kindly suggest it is also your detriment.

"A closed mind is a dying mind." - Edna Ferber

Respectfully.........KK

reply to post by loam


I think I posted on the negative connotations on the first page - your view reinforces that opinion.

As you say, it seems to create an atmosphere of "targetting" those who are on a persons "foe" list, when this was not the intent behind the system, presumably.

Personally, I prefer positive reinforcement, which IMO is what the "friend" function does

Originally posted by kinda kurious
It is obvious from your post by inferring only a spiteful / immature member would utilize a readily available function on this site, as I do,that you have already defined my worth and formed your opinion of me.

If you insist upon taking my comments personally, don't let me stop you. I meant them broadly enough.

Originally posted by kinda kurious
Ummm. I did not invent the function, but simply employ it.

Yes, I understand what you mean. I feel compelled to purchase and use every whoopee cushion and hand buzzard in sight. Hey, I'm not the one who makes them.

Originally posted by kinda kurious
"A closed mind is a dying mind." - Edna Ferber

Indeed.

Originally posted by kinda kurious
Respectfully........

Ditto.



reply to post by budski


Agreed.

[edit on 31-3-2009 by loam]

I'd like to see the FOE option modified to make the FOER explain why they choose to FOE the FOEE. In 25 words or less.

It puzzles me to get notified that so and so has chosen me as their FOE when I,to the best of my knowledge, have never exchanged word one with them. Is it respect or is it...?

I'd like to see a NEIGHBOR option..

Won't you please, won't you please
Please won't you be my neighbor

Originally posted by loam

Originally posted by kinda kurious
Ummm. I did not invent the function, but simply employ it.

Yes, I understand what you mean. I feel compelled to purchase and use every whoopee cushion and hand buzzard in sight. Hey, I'm not the one who makes them.

Funny how I am labeled as immature when comments like these are made.

Thanks for making my point. I rest my case.

Gotta go, I've got a spinning-wheel to run in.

Sincerely.........KK

Edit to add: Ironic that those who dislike labels like "FOE" are so
quick to cast their own. (Troll, Idiot etc.......) Probably only ironic to me though.



[edit on 31-3-2009 by kinda kurious]

Originally posted by jsobecky
Is it respect or is it...?

That's the whole point of this thread.

In my opening post I pulled out the dictionary definitions of 'respected' and 'worthy'. Those are what the ATS 'respected foe' is supposed to be all about.

However, some mistakenly use it as a 'I hate this person' list or 'I think these are trolls' list ... or whatever. That's not the function.

Funny story. A few months back four of us were posting in one thread. Three of us were on one side of the issue. One person was on the other. The one person on the other side of the issue was getting immature ... casting off topic personal insults and trying to derail the thread. Next thing the three of us know we are getting notified that the insulting poster had put us all on his 'respected foes' list. We laughed and laughed ... Obviously the fella didn't respect us since he had just tried to slam us all ... It was comical.

As I said in the opening post - I don't think some folks understand what the list is supposed to be for.

I have no foes. Just because I disagree with someones opinions does not make them a foe. And those few that are trolls aren't respected and therefore aren't worthy of mention on my profile.

Now my HAMPSTER list ... ... that's more fun! (oh .. that reminds me .. Budski is out of carrots ... gotta go feed him! )

Originally posted by loam
Frankly, I'm a bit surprised by how the foe banner reads. After finally seeing one, am I the only one who finds it even more objectionable?

Not really the best tool for fostering civil interaction. At a subconscious level, it almost encourages the opposite, imo.

I agree... It looks like... Arrrgghhhh Big red warning.... Your foe has posted!!

I have nobody on foe or ignore...and never intend too.

It does look very ominous indeed...

I've never added a foe,a few have added me.Until this thread i never really thought about it...i'd like to think even if we have not exchanged many words that some of my posts made them think a little outside of the reality they perceive.Or maybe im full of myself

reply to post by FlyersFan


Well, you've been my FRIEND for a long time, in spite of your username. Coming from a big Bruins fan, btw.

Da Broons rule!

Maybe we could modify "respected foes" to present as "respected debater" which implies that you don't agree with their point of view but still respect them as debaters rather than labeling them a "foe".

We could also add another category, an unabiguous euphemism, to complement the "sharp friends" category: "Fecal Roster". That should let people know where they stand with no clarification needed.

Originally posted by whitewave
We could also add another category, an unabiguous euphemism, to complement the "sharp friends" category: "Fecal Roster". That should let people know where they stand with no clarification needed.

So you feel referring to someone as "Fecal" is more dignified than "Foe?"

I suspect that is either:
A. Sense of humor failure.
B. Poor logic.
C. A bad idea.

Or, perhaps, all of the above.

Regards.......KK

[edit on 2-4-2009 by kinda kurious]

Originally posted by kinda kurious

Originally posted by whitewave

We could also add another category, an unabiguous euphemism, to complement the "sharp friends" category: "Fecal Roster". That should let people know where they stand with no clarification needed.

So you feel referring to someone as "Fecal" is more dignified than "Foe?"

I suspect that is either:
A. Sense of humor failure.
B. Poor logic.
C. A bad idea.

Or, perhaps, all of the above.

Actually, I didn't suggest adding dignity to the title at all. I believe that was your translation.

1) If my sense of humor failed to amuse you then I freely admit that I am not everyone's cup of sunshine.
2) Several people have suggested adding a category for jerks, trolls, etc. Please point out which rule of logic my suggestion failed to meet.
3) Your opinion (and you're welcome to it).

Regards,
whitewave