Girl, 14, arrested for posting nude MySpace pics

Originally posted by Le Colonel

Originally posted by bloodcircle

Originally posted by whatukno
Heres just another case of people defending a child pornographer just because she is an underage girl.

This is going down quicker than a Russian sub in the Barents sea.

Shes a child pornographer? So blatantly and assertive?

Hey, does that mean I can sue myself for when I was a young curious lad, and gave myself an improper examination? oO Ahem...

Yeah, how many years before they couldnt charge us, ahem, you, on that.

I blame the media, they made me do it.. All that George Michael corrupting my innocence..

On that note, I think I smell the coffee brewing..

UUgghhh. After reading the last few posts, I have this compelling desire to take a very long, hot shower. eewwww

[edit on 28-3-2009 by Elostone]

If this was an under aged boy circulating pictures of his penis he would be seen as a pervert and punnished accordingly. To assume she is somehow a victim is projecting.. clicking on pics on myspace only to get an eye full of someone's bits and pieces is just nasty and people shouldn't have that imagry imposed on them.

She should be put under house arrests imo.. bout time her parents grounded her. oh and they should have the internet cut off.

[edit on 28-3-2009 by riley]

This reminds me of this little girl I know, her mother is forever looking for the $$ guys, her daughter is a wild card, hates her mother and is in total competition with her. She is 14, she likes gang bangs and the boys love her! Sex is their favorite pass time!

A friend of mine invited the mother for diner about 3yrs ago, and the kid then 11yrs old tagged along, my friend tells my that the girl lifted her top and flashed her chest at him. He was totally shocked, and the mother barely reacted...This image will forever haunt him!

This is not about being free in your body! This is about competition and vulgarised sexuality, and this behavior is really dumb and unproductive. Sex addiction is a desease, This girl is one sick puppy!

I disagree with forcing her to register as a sex offender, however, I am ALL for going after these teens for posting explicit photos of themselves. Parents also need to be held responsible.

I detest myspace, and I wish it were shut down.

Originally posted by Le Colonel
We have lost the ability to teach our children right and wrong. I blame Mainstream Media for this.

Nice cop out there it's hers and her parents fault, no one else. She needs a decent therapist to get over her father issues nothing else.

reply to post by calihan_12

I think its wrong for her to be arrested, when millions of other people post nude pictures of themselves and get away with it.

I've thought of posting some nude pictures of myself but don't want to end up in the cryptozoology threads lol.

Seriously though, if my child did that I would probably go barking mad, but to have her registered as a sex offender is ridiculous .

Hm I wonder what crime exactly, has this individual committed ? Is it a crime to be a nude human ?

Seems like humanity has really got to take a step back and think carefully about why it's so messed up about sex.

We can send a probe to mars put people on the moon but just can't figure out why we act the way we do.

reply to post by coven


I agree completely with your post, sex is being sold to kids, it's seriously worrying. When you can walk into a shop and buy a t-shirt for a 10 year old that says "porn star" you have to wonder. I've also seen shirts with "kiss me quick" and other slogans on them. Those are the more polite ones as well, I've found some seriously worrying ones sometimes.

Pictures or it didn't happen.

Seriously, she sounds like a stupid lassie with too much time on her hands and parents in the background.

If a 14-year-old posts nude pictures, it isn't really pornography - I would argue. Pornography is sexually explicit. One could argue that such photos could be biological expressions, intended for the viewing by her boyfriend who may be of the same age - a [presumed innocent] sort of you show me yours, I'll show you mine interpretation.

Dictionary.com gives two of the following definitions of the word "pornography".


"Sexually explicit pictures, writing, or other material whose primary purpose is to cause sexual arousal."

Qu: What is sexually explicit about the naked self? What if she had created a timeline photo collage comparison showing the development of the body from birth to present - would this still be deemed pornographic?

Other definition...
"pornography

Books, photographs, magazines, art, or music designed to excite sexual impulses and considered by public authorities or public opinion as in violation of accepted standards of sexual morality. American courts have not yet settled on a satisfactory definition of what constitutes pornographic material. (See obscenity.)"

Interpretation:: The nude photos are only deemed as exciting sexual impulses by those who are of an adult age; in other words - her accusers. They should be ashamed.

The poor girl should not be held to the same moral interpretations that are placed on adults, because she is not of a mental maturity to be able to make those determinations. The adult accusers should be accused of exciting their own sexual impulses.

I say NO to the penalty of "sex offender"...

Glad to see so many posts from children of the 60's & 70's, as I was.

Cameras were a luxury of more wealthy folks back in the day. Our family photo album is kinda thin because of it!

"Streaking" was the worst sexual/or nude activity going on! (But so hilarious, that no-one ever got charged with a crime)!

We needed permission to use the telephone, and mom or dad sat right there, listening!

But teenage promiscuity still ocurred, when someone's parents were away, there was "Truth or Dare"...& "Spin the Bottle"...or "Strip Poker"... and subsequently, lots of early alcoholism!

Yeah, it's the parents...Yeah, it's the media...but KIDS WILL BE KIDS no matter what the next new technology brings!

(For me, it was that WILD girl who lived down the country lane, whose parents were ALWAYS away)!

reply to post by IAF101


I just read your post and your comparison to Sharia law was disturbing. I'd rather live in a country where the most minor penalities were, or.....none, in a situation like this (mind you, I'd rather live in is not really appropriate, rather, I will fight to my death to ensure that I live in) than any form of control, or fascism exists. This isn't exactly a crime, but is inappropriate teenage behavior.
All people are free sovereign beings, and you're talking about posing harsh penalties upon someone for the norms and prejudices of society. This esalation of control and fundamentalism, needs to be met with massive protests and a good old fashioned hippy movement.

...Why do we as humans still care about nudity? we all know what breasts look like we all know what vagina's look like... why are we still stuck on this? Because of perceived eroticism

its just nudity, get over it world.


That having been said, she should not be charged with child pornography, rupert murdoch should though.

Now see, the problem that I have about this is what exactly was the girl's intent? And really this is where the story should begin and end. What do we know of her maturity, really? Yes placing them into public domain does not indicate advanced thought as anyone could access them, but what if was to be private and "concerned" adults made it public?

My grandmother married at 16 in 1940? What does that say? Was she a naive child that was taken advantage of or was she brought up to be mature enough to be a bride at 16? Should I mention that my grandfather would have been 20 at the time? Or perhaps my own mother married at 16 as well and turned 17 before I was born? Mom and Dad are still married and doing well.

Perhaps I should mention my own time at 17? I did date a girl that was 24 and a graduate of Vassar. I also had lunch with the then Governor Celeste's wife, had been introduced to VP Bush. I had dated quite a few different girls my own age. I also had quite a few responsibilities and obligations as well as managing myself.

Sure we could say that this girl was too young or irresponsible, perhaps even negligent in making her photos too public. But the stark reality is that not even 100 years ago 14 year old brides were very common, by 16 it was nearly expected. Spinsters and old maids then were between 24-30. Perhaps she was indeed being mature and sharing herself but went about it the completely wrong way? Again, what was her intent? Was she being sexual? There is a huge difference between nude and naughty. Many of have seen live in the flesh nudity when we were teens. Not all of it was for bad reasons. Often times it was accidental and there was nothing sexual about it.

But to be fair to this girl, at 14 I was laying the foundation to where I would be by the time I was 18. I had stopped playing with my childhood friends and doing the same things of my younger days. In fact, 22 days before I turned 15, I created both my stage name and persona for that name. Three months later the die would be cast and everything was set into motion. I realized the significance then at the time it was happening just as well as I do now at 38.

I was the kind of person that figured things out for my own then, like what love was and was not. Sure I made some mistakes along the way, but I learned and grew. Of course, none of my mistakes were posting nude photos on myspace. But then again, I wasn't the bastion of innocence either and had no problem doing costume changes live on stage when I was 17. Mind you, I did leave boxers on, but did change boxers when removing pants to give the illusion of there being more that perhaps the audience did not see at first glance. Yes, I did have an intent, but I played it off as my character was "living on that set, and I was following that illusion". The critic that reviewed the play understood that, although there wasn't enough make up to hide my age of playing a character 30 years older than myself, he did enjoy my performance otherwise.

I dont think she should be labeled a sex offender. She is the one getting all those creepy offenders to come to her! This is why I am against people under 18 on sites like myspace. I know I know it doesnt sound fair, but you always hear of some 14 or 12 year old meeting someone they met on there in person and then getting raped. It's ridiculous. Also where were the parents! I know parents who have full access to their kids account, it's a stipulation for them getting to keep it. The parents need to monitor their childs internet surfing! This case is insane! How did he upload that many pics?! I had one that was not even nude in any way and they removed it asap and I am 30! How did she get 20 pics up?!

Because there's a possibility in the current strange atmosphere where one of the US States just introduced bills to make fines and prison terms possible for anyone swearing in public or forums, that she is doing what she was instructed to do for political agendas, which of course entail slashing more freedoms.

While a 14 year old doing this is setting herself up for unhappiness and exploitation, freedom is something we must hold on to at all costs, and I'd embrace the norms of the 60s and the flower children before I'd embrace anything meeting in the middle with fundamentalism or Sharia law.

[edit on 28-3-2009 by mystiq]

Originally posted by jhill76
Nope, I have to disagree. She is the one inviting the predators and offenders to her. I am so tired of older men getting locked up and the girls get labeled as a victim, when they are openly looking sex with older men.

It's against the law for a man to have sex with a kid. What they need to do is start prosecuting more kids who do this stuff. Why are you tired of older men getting locked up for this? What gives?

all i have to say is welcome to the internet world where people follow no rules

reply to post by ImaginaryReality1984


I am kinda shocked at the tweens walking around dressed like prostitutes for halloween. Last year I saw a ten year old with huge fake boobs.


I am all for sexual openess. People need to relax quite a bit. BUT
it starts at age 18, not 8.

reply to post by ANNED


It could be too that parents who are comfortable enough to join nudist colonies, are more rounded and adventerous.

Most likely they are involved with their children, have instilled self confidence and have taught their kids there is a whole world out there.

In other words, they are involved.
Parents who are involved with their children and teach their children to have self confidence, the kids are far less likely to have problems, and look for love in all the wrong ways.

The fact is, people sensationalizing that is it "normal" is giving oppressors more of an excuse.
It is not normal, not for everyone.

It is not about whether the human body should be appreciated or not, it is about whether this girl has been conditioned to think that she is only valued by her sexuality.

And that is the problem that is being generated by tv. Is that females can only be beautiful, loved and appreciated through sex.

She is young to be on teh sex offenders list. But the fact is myspace IS PUBLIC, therefore if some seven year olds happen upon her site, and they see someone not much older then them posing nude, yes she is a sex offender.



[edit on 28-3-2009 by nixie_nox]