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Originally posted by thefreepatriot
reply to post by Harlequin
harlequim asking the president to show that he is duly qualified to be president has nothing to do with racism....
Originally posted by dankai
How's this for a worthy candidate in this matter? I've read comments in another thread that called the soldiers stepping forward "cowards" and "scared." This man is a Major General! And for all of you who yell at the top of any pinnacle that you served x amount of years, and did this tour or that tour...This man "served 38 years in Vietnam, the Persian Gulf, Operation Desert Storm and other locations." AND HE'S A MAJOR GENERAL! I wonder how much disrespect I'll read from military persons on here now.
wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=90125]wnd.com
(visit the link for the full news article)
Originally posted by nenothtu
You mean that insistence on adherence to the Constitution now equates to "twisting and subverting" the Constitution? Orwell himself couldn't have provided a clearer example of doublespeak.
Originally posted by nenothtu
And as far as your attempts to shout down the opposition, who, after all, are only insisting on concrete proof - well, as the Bard said, "Methinks thou doth protest too much!"
Originally posted by geemony
Actually retired Generals and staff officers retain their rank as a title in retirement. When a president is no longer president is he not still referred to as president? Nice try but respect is respect, he absolutely is qualified to pass judgment.
Originally posted by GradyPhilpott
He's a citizen and he does have standing on that criterion alone.
Originally posted by GradyPhilpott
And he is hardly alone in the matter. I saw Alan Keyes asking the same questions the other day.
Originally posted by GradyPhilpott
Certainly, Obama can do the same and put an end to the speculation.
Originally posted by nenothtu
The "racism" charge is a smokescreen from folks with an unsupportable position.
Originally posted by nenothtu
And as far as your attempts to shout down the opposition, who, after all, are only insisting on concrete proof - well, as the Bard said, "Methinks thou doth protest too much!"
reply to post by The Nighthawk
I'm not even angry with you fools anymore. I'm angry at myself for giving enough of a turd about your worthless claims to respond to them. Just another damn hoax designed to distract people from the real problems and prevent those problems from being solved, because the real threat--the Mega-Rich Elite--want to keep the idiots squabbling amongst themselves so they can keep robbing us blind, and surround us with a police state to keep their wage-slaves in line. I know this truth falls on deaf ears, but if you want to solve the real problem and fight the real enemy you'll have to give up your childish libertarian/frontiersman fantasies and get involved in the process you hate so much.
Originally posted by SaviorComplex
Originally posted by nenothtu
You mean that insistence on adherence to the Constitution now equates to "twisting and subverting" the Constitution? Orwell himself couldn't have provided a clearer example of doublespeak.
They are not insisting on an adherence to the Constitution. They are demanding things that are not called for in the Constitution and then claiming they are doing it for the Constitution. In fact these people doing so care very little for the Constitution and are just using the name of the Constitution as a cover for their activities. They wish to overturn a lawful election because they were on the losing side, a very anti-democratic, anti-republican and anti-Constitutional attitude. They wish to impose their own brand of tyranny.
If you want to claim they are "protecting the Constitution," show me in the Constitution where it says one can only use the the long-form birth-certificate to prove their citizenship. Show me in the Constitution where it say anyone who was born of immigrant or resident alien parents are not a natural-born-citizen.
Originally posted by nenothtu
And as far as your attempts to shout down the opposition, who, after all, are only insisting on concrete proof - well, as the Bard said, "Methinks thou doth protest too much!"
What complete and total idiocy. Debate and counter-points are neither shouting down the opposition, nor somehow proof we have something to hide. Such an accusation could easily be flipped back on the likes of you.
I think those who are driving it are racist. If you say you are not racist, well you are protesting too much, proving you are racist.
I think those who are driving this are bigots. If you say you are not a bigot, well, you are protesting too much, proving you are a racist.
I think those who are driving this care little for the Constitution. If you say you do care, well, you are protesting too much, proving you do not care about the Constitution.
I think those who are driving this wish to subvert our democracy and republic. If you say you are, well, you are protesting too much, proving that you do wish to subvert our democracy and republic.
Shall I go on? Your "protest too much" argument is nothing, filler and empty words when you have nothing of substance to say.
Originally posted by SaviorComplex
So what? If you want to talk sheer numbers, 69 million people found the proof of his status as a natural born citizen to be in their satisfaction. The number of people believing something has no bearing on whether it is true or not.
Originally posted by KnoxMSP
Until then we are all going by hearsay, or by images we are assuming are real, and not altered. There is no "hard evidence" for either side of the argument as of now.
Hi, I’ve talked to the Department of Vital Records and the Honolulu Advertiser.In 1961, the hospitals would take their new birth certificates to Vital Records. At the end of the week, Vital Records would post a sheet that for the news paper to pick up that contained births, deaths, marriages and divorces. The Advertiser routinely printed this information in their Sunday edition. This is not a paid announcement that his grandmother could arrange. This is information that comes from Vital Records - we know this because this particular section reflects those records. ...
This information was received by Vital Records the first week of his birth = that suggests the hospital. source
Originally posted by converge
Originally posted by amari
Originally posted by ProtoplasmicTraveler
AMENDMENT XXVIII
TO THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA
A. While all men have been created equal under one true divine creator not all sources of verifiable factual information are equal.
This is the funniest post yet but believe me many will feel this way and want the Constitution Of The United States OF America to be admended and open to liberal interprtation instead of what The Constitution actually states.
Yes, that's quite a fantasy you have going there.
But since you pick up on this post, I'd like to ask you amari, and the author of the original post, ProtoplasmicTraveler, if you think factcheck.org is an unreliable source and apparently even a threat to our Nation, what is the reliable source you are basing your opinions that Obama isn't a natural born citizen?
I await your reply, thank you.