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Congress Seeks To Authorize & Legalize FEMA Camp Facilities

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posted on Jan, 27 2009 @ 06:44 PM
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reply to post by zysin5
 


So what are these camps proof of?

So far, we only know that they are for emergency relief. Where is the evidence to the contrary?



posted on Jan, 27 2009 @ 06:44 PM
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reply to post by questioningall
 


LOL You thought that the democratics of congress were the good guys?
Now that is truly funny. Now there might be good guys in movies but this is the real world. It is my belief that 95% of the people in the government is infected with greed. If you think that Obama is immune to greed then you are wrong.



posted on Jan, 27 2009 @ 06:48 PM
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Originally posted by Alpha_Magnum
reply to post by RFBurns
 


Or perhaps these camps can be used for housing the 100's of 1000's of unemployed people along with the foreclosure people along side all of the sick and starving people from the unemployed and homeless groups!


That would mean that they knew the economic problems were coming, and instead of avoiding them, wanted instead to just pacify the populace.

-- makes too much sense. Must be a conspiracy theory with no merit.



posted on Jan, 27 2009 @ 06:49 PM
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Originally posted by VitriolAndAngst

Originally posted by Alpha_Magnum
reply to post by RFBurns
 


Or perhaps these camps can be used for housing the 100's of 1000's of unemployed people along with the foreclosure people along side all of the sick and starving people from the unemployed and homeless groups!


That would mean that they knew the economic problems were coming, and instead of avoiding them, wanted instead to just pacify the populace.

-- makes too much sense. Must be a conspiracy theory with no merit.


Or maybe due to all the harsh weather patterns throughout the US, it's just prudent to have emergency centers. Remember Katrina?



posted on Jan, 27 2009 @ 06:53 PM
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Originally posted by jfj123
reply to post by zysin5
 


So what are these camps proof of?

So far, we only know that they are for emergency relief. Where is the evidence to the contrary?


The EVIDENCE, would be that they would be a piss poor and wasteful way to provide relief. Like I said, for the same money you could have tents trucked in to house a lot more people. You can't KNOW where an emergency is going to be, so you'd need a lot of fricken' camps.

Then you have the double barbed wire, and sharpshooter towers and the general look and warmth of a concentration camp. If anyone wanted to herd me into this "humanitarian relief" camp, I'd die fighting them off right there. I can't think of anything that strikes more fear into me, than being herded into a camp with no way to get out.

Crap man, what do you think any sane person would think if they were shipped on Box car to these camps? There were people dying in Katrina because they didn't want to leave their homes. Try moving them into a concrete and razor wire camp.

There's proof and then there is just god-given common sense. Not enough of the former but plenty of the latter on this topic.



posted on Jan, 27 2009 @ 06:54 PM
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Just read the World Ecomomic Forum report for 2009, with recommendations. The tanking of the worlds finances is being manipulated to bring about a One World Economic stability. It's scary how many "experts" to the WEF are from Georgetown University! The Roman Catholic Church is central to the planning of the One World Government, One World Economy, and One World Religion. Mystery Babylon is re-establishing herself fabulously. President Obama, it turns out, is a Prince Hall 32nd degree Mason. It's about time for a renewed Inquisition! Since the old grand inquisitor now sits on the throne at the Vatican, I guess we should have expected it. fredanderson.blogspot.com...



posted on Jan, 27 2009 @ 06:55 PM
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reply to post by VitriolAndAngst
 


and why would they create concentration camps? For what purpose?



posted on Jan, 27 2009 @ 06:58 PM
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reply to post by Dark Jester
 



I have to say, I was shocked to find, that it was a Democrat that has introduced the bill.

The whole FEMA camps with Halliburton building them, seemed to be a Bush and co. deal.

So now the govt. will say "Oh don't worry everyone, we have a nice safe place for you to go to - in times of trouble" "OH, but please look pass the part of the high fences with the barbed wire on top, that is just so others can't hurt you, as we will keep you safe"

Most people will believe that, and probably won't notice the barbed wire at the top is facing in, to keep them in.

This whole "emergency shelter" thing for FEMA camps just doesn't seem right. Why now, are they trying to get them legit? Why wouldn't they have done something like that after Katrina, as a way of saying, here we will give you a safe place to shelter from a hurricane/storm? But they are doing it now....when we are in an economic collapse?

Seems to me, it will be more for those who are "unruly",

besides that, one thing no one has noticed........ "ON MILITARY Grounds".

So right there, they are stating the military will be involved in the future of "control of the people".


[edit on 27-1-2009 by questioningall]



posted on Jan, 27 2009 @ 07:01 PM
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Originally posted by jfj123

Originally posted by VitriolAndAngst

Originally posted by Alpha_Magnum
reply to post by RFBurns
 


Or perhaps these camps can be used for housing the 100's of 1000's of unemployed people along with the foreclosure people along side all of the sick and starving people from the unemployed and homeless groups!


That would mean that they knew the economic problems were coming, and instead of avoiding them, wanted instead to just pacify the populace.

-- makes too much sense. Must be a conspiracy theory with no merit.


Or maybe due to all the harsh weather patterns throughout the US, it's just prudent to have emergency centers. Remember Katrina?


Read "Disaster Capitalsim" by Naomi Klein. Katrina didn't have to be such a mess -- it took a lot of hard work to screw it up that bad. AT the same time that Bush couldn't get ice trucks to New Orleans because they were traveling around the country NOT going to Louisiana, his group closed about 144 public schools. He got a supreme court justice nominated during that week, BEFORE he bothered to fly by the state.

It was made to fail. You can just look at all the land that went to private contractors to sell, and look at all the huge amounts of money given to contractors, that hired people from out of state, or illegals from Mexico and underpaid them -- a lot of money spent to make sure no locals got jobs rebuilding. It was nothing but Gentrification and a wet dream for Crackers.

They had plenty of warning to help move people out.

I could spend a lot of time, documenting all the things that went wrong. I don't need to convince myself again of how corrupt BushCo was. Where they were incompetent, it was intentional. One smart crook can do a lot of damage surrounded by cronies and idiots. That doesn't get a pass in my book.

And I would say, very few of those people would want or tolerate any FEMA camp -- especially after Katrina. If you surveyed people, they should add on the questionnaire "NO" and "HELL NO."



posted on Jan, 27 2009 @ 07:05 PM
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Troubling news,guys I hope the bill dies but things like this appeal to the power hungry and the great mass of the American public will say: "I have nothing to hide." while being round up and then disappearing.



posted on Jan, 27 2009 @ 07:09 PM
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Originally posted by jfj123
reply to post by VitriolAndAngst
 


and why would they create concentration camps? For what purpose?


If the dollar collapses, then the Unemployed and Unruly might become an issue. The government, rather than dropping the dollar (making the wealthy poor) and reestablishing a new government an currency (which is the only prudent thing -- that Iceland will have to do), might try to maintain the status quo.

Basically, you will have a very few, incredibly wealthy people, and everybody else will be working poor and/or starving.

>> Or you could have something like a massive methane release in the oceans, and massive red tides releasing toxic gases near the coasts -- some huge disaster that might be predicted ahead of time.

>> The ONLY useful purpose I could see, from a government point of view for the FEMA camps would be;
A) A place to put dissidents/ unemployed troublemakers and scare the crap out of the populace while giving lame excuses to the people who still trust TV News. or
B) As a project to spend money on, so that companies like Haliburton can make a profit, or
C) All of the above.

>>You don't put razor wire and shotgun towers on a place for humanitarian relief. However, since some of our leaders have left all humanity behind -- maybe that might have escaped their attention.



posted on Jan, 27 2009 @ 07:14 PM
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Originally posted by Alpha_Magnum
reply to post by RFBurns
 


Or perhaps these camps can be used for housing the 100's of 1000's of unemployed people along with the foreclosure people along side all of the sick and starving people from the unemployed and homeless groups!


Absolutely. There is no reason why the facilities couldnt be used for this purpose. Its time that the government start taking care of its people, now that its plundered us all of our dreams and hopes with this economic situation and bailouts.

Its time for government to bail out the people and put those billions back into our pockets.

That is what everyone should scream bloody murder to their representatives and senators. Take this 800+ billion stimulus package proposal and send each of us a nice big fat check for 100,000 or so, which is well within the proposed stimulus package ability. There are aprox 350 million people in this country, about 2/3 of that number are taxpayers. Instead of a pittiful 600 bucks or 1,500 buck check, we need a good 50 or 100 grand check.

We deserve it, and should demand it.




Cheers!!!!



posted on Jan, 27 2009 @ 07:18 PM
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Originally posted by jfj123
reply to post by zysin5
 


So what are these camps proof of?


Before the question was if these camps even existed..
Now for what they will be used for is up for debate..

Many people had claimed there where no such camps..
This is proof that indeed these camps are there.. And all over the place.



posted on Jan, 27 2009 @ 07:19 PM
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Originally posted by VitriolAndAngst

Originally posted by jfj123
reply to post by VitriolAndAngst
 


and why would they create concentration camps? For what purpose?


If the dollar collapses, then the Unemployed and Unruly might become an issue.

If riots were to start due to economic collapse, 6 camps would be useless and even if there were enough camps, there are not enough military personnel to guard everyone.


The government, rather than dropping the dollar (making the wealthy poor) and reestablishing a new government an currency (which is the only prudent thing -- that Iceland will have to do), might try to maintain the status quo.

And what would that have to do with fema camps?


Basically, you will have a very few, incredibly wealthy people, and everybody else will be working poor and/or starving.

You mean like now ?


>> Or you could have something like a massive methane release in the oceans, and massive red tides releasing toxic gases near the coasts -- some huge disaster that might be predicted ahead of time.

And there would be safe places for people to go if they are forced out their homes due to natural disaster.


>> The ONLY useful purpose I could see, from a government point of view for the FEMA camps would be;
A) A place to put dissidents/ unemployed troublemakers and scare the crap out of the populace while giving lame excuses to the people who still trust TV News. or
B) As a project to spend money on, so that companies like Haliburton can make a profit, or
C) All of the above.


How about D?
A place where victims of natural disasters can go and seek relief.


>>You don't put razor wire and shotgun towers on a place for humanitarian relief.

You do if it's inside a military base.



posted on Jan, 27 2009 @ 07:20 PM
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They want to take Americas guns so they can take their freedoms.

Grab your guns and prepare to fight for your freedom..........

To the DEATH

Unless you enjoy being an imprisoned slave with absolutely no rights at all. Think it's bad now while you're still allowed to roam around? Wait till your stuffed into one of these hell holes. Once that occurs, it's too late to do anything, so I suggest you be prepared.

The reason they want this is because they know (from our internet) all about the people who want freedom and will fight for it, so they figure they can nip it in the bud before it gets outta control.

I suggest you tell EVERYONE you know to be prepared. The more the merrier. S&F



posted on Jan, 27 2009 @ 07:27 PM
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DHS is offering a $5000 bonus for the lumpkin, GA location.

This is in the middle of freakin nowhere, without a border, port of entry, or iliegal alien within miles....

WTF?


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edit to add, this area is the home of Providence Canyon, with the famous "South Glory Hole"





[edit on 27-1-2009 by hotrodturbo7]



posted on Jan, 27 2009 @ 07:49 PM
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Wow
I sure hope that this turns out to be nothing. I have read about the fema camps already, this news kinda puts some weight behind the theory. Scary times guys.



posted on Jan, 27 2009 @ 07:50 PM
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Originally posted by hotrodturbo7
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DHS is offering a $5000 bonus for the lumpkin, GA location.

This is in the middle of freakin nowhere, without a border, port of entry, or iliegal alien within miles....

WTF?


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[edit on 27-1-2009 by hotrodturbo7]


OMG - I was confused when I read your post, about what you could be talking about, then I hit the link.

I now see what you mean, and why you posted it; here it is from USA jobs:




DETENTION AND REMOVAL ASSISTANT (OA)

SALARY RANGE: 27,026.00 - 43,521.00 USD per year OPEN PERIOD: Friday, January 16, 2009
to Friday, January 30, 2009
SERIES & GRADE: GS-1802-05/07 POSITION INFORMATION: Full Time Career/Career Conditional
PROMOTION POTENTIAL: 07 DUTY LOCATIONS: multiple duty locations - click here for more info
WHO MAY BE CONSIDERED: United States Citizens

JOB SUMMARY:
Protecting National Security and Upholding Public Safety




Organizational Location: This position is located in the Immigration and Customs Enforcement, Atlanta Detention and Removal Field Office, Duty Location: Please refer to duty locations.

Relocation Expenses: Relocation expenses will not be paid.

Special Note: A relocation Bonus of $5,000.00, less app licable federal and states taxes, is being offered for the Lumpkin, GA location until critical staffing needs are met.


Salary: Salary may be adjusted to include locality payment for selected duty locations.

Note: One or more positions may be filled using this vacancy announcement.

Questionnaire/Supporting Documents: The Questionnaire and all supporting documents must be submitted and received by 11:59 p.m. Eastern Time on Friday, January 30, 2009.


I would like to know, what a "Removal Assistant" is.



[edit on 27-1-2009 by questioningall]



posted on Jan, 27 2009 @ 07:52 PM
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Not if your given the option for all able bodies to train at these camps and learn weapons and tactics. It would start Obama's mandated national service.

Think China - how dependent are the citizens of China on their Government

Your looking at wide scale voluntary military training with American's just wanting to eat and to have a roof over your families head.

When the economy takes its final plunge in Feb., the trucking and food supply line will be interupted. When food starts disappearing from store shelves, those who didn't prepare are looking at something worse than a foreclosure. They will be looking at the eyes of their starving children.

I prepared 4 years ago - I have enough food for my family for at least 2-3 years, and a gravity fed water purifier with enough filter elements for that same amount of time, actually longer because water is more important.

I am working on getting the portable solar generator which will power our needs and I will be well defended.

This is where we are heading.

[edit on 27-1-2009 by arizonascott]



posted on Jan, 27 2009 @ 07:58 PM
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I had heard about the Feb plunge for the stock market, I had read at one point that it would be in the last part of Jan 09 but so far nothing. I guess I will had to read up on the Feb timeline.




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