Livecam from Gaza

With the loss of the original Ramattan feed, it's a shame that we're unlikely to hear Phoenix again

so now the aftonbladet link has sound here. is that tanks im hearing? and does anyone know why i cant record this?

is that WP they are firing at the city now?????


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[edit on 12-1-2009 by makkerskilap]

It looks like the are shooting white phosphorus into some parts of the city.
They just cut to a Bush news conference

[edit on 12-1-2009 by icybluebeing]

Its a War, thats what leads me to believe it.

Hey, if you don't think its propaganda, thats fine with me. I respect that. I happen to believe it is.

The rooster crowing? You do not think that was propaganda. Do a little reading at the Ramattan website. They mention it several times. How do you feel about the chicken? Do you think their is any possible way, what so ever that someone could have inserted the Rooster now named Phoenix into the feed? Any possible way at all? Its a chicken and people are worried about it. That is propaganda, even if it is a real chicken just incidental to the background, it is being used. And its working.

Art of War!

thats the 3. time a bunch of this white crap is being fired right down in the city. i thought that stuff was illigal if not used for covering troops? that can't be covering troops.... fourth time just now!

and G.W.B. is on now.. hm.

[edit on 12-1-2009 by makkerskilap]

I too can see the bombs? hitting the buildings and lots of smoke.

I cant however see explosions, I dont think these are bombs?

Is the background ambience tanks?

As I speak the feed has just cut to george bush

I just throw my shoe towards my monitor! As reflect reaction that guy suddenly jump to my face...

I just hate him!

I know that he is just sorry puppet, but still... Not a man.

[edit on 12-1-2009 by JanusFIN]

Cnn still has the live feed.
No bush on there yet.
So ,was that white phosphorus being fired into the city?

[edit on 12-1-2009 by icybluebeing]

Another example of it, everyone is flipped out about the use of WP because of their supposed view of the Geneva convention. Do a little research on the convention. Is Palestine part of the Convention? Are they Uniformed Combatants? Is the WP being used to "Burn" equipment up? Or just targeting naked people?

Dont understand where Im going, hang with me.

In the Marines, I was a Machine-gunner. Now, we were taught that by the Geneva Convention, we were only allowed to shoot our M2's at equipment, not people. Meaning, we could drop a bomb on someones forehead, but couldn't shoot them with a 50 cal machine-gun. We were all perplexed until it was explained that a wrist watch is a piece of equipment as are the clothing.

So dont get all caught up in the Geneva Convention rules because a Palestinian Journalist is screaming that the rules are being broken when you have not witnessed what actually happened.

In propaganda, alls you have to do is claim something, and it automatically becomes cultishly true. Just like Election Politics.

Now CNN has live feed, after the "CNN ABSENT FROM WAR" was claimed through Palestine. Not propaganda. The whole deal smells of it to me.

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Yes they are! Absolute disgrace. I've counted at least 6 WP payloads.

^ The drones, unfortunately you can only see two in the sky.

I have some screenies of the WP too:

Make that over 8 while I was sorting screenies.

[edit on 12-1-2009 by Goathief]

"Hamas must stop firing rockets..."

How about delivering Anti-Rocket and Anti-mortar batteries around Gaza, if its up to some poor rockets fired... and stop killing people, occupation - destroy houses, make war crimes and genocide?

Who believe this BS?

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over the last couple of days, ive seen more than 10 loads of this being dropped or fired onto the city.. i actually think its closer to 15. sickening...

The reason why CNN has taken over the Ramattan feed is quiet clear. Nana10 cut the feed after it showed tank movement in Gaza. Lots and lots of people were watching that feed. So CNN jumped in, took over the feed and now has a lot of people watching it.

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Everyone is complaining because the stuff is really nasty and it's being used in a densely populated area - the Geneva convention is secondary. Personally I don't think you care for the innocent civilians in Gaza, otherwise you would be upset too.

Oy Vey?

Now anyone who will click on the link in the OP now rather than getting the live Gaza feed they will be watching Israeli television news?

If there are any other live feeds of Gaza, can those links be added to the OP?

In the interest of fairness?

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Whats more sickening? A legal tool of war being used in warfare, or the innocent civilians caught in the cross fire because of cowards hiding in their midst?

WP is legal, for what I see it being used for. I have yet to see an Israeli soldier pop a WP grenade into a pile of naked people. What I have seen is WP being used as a tool of concealment and as a tool of Incineration of Buildings.

Israel has taken over the live cam from Ramattan media. Now there is an Israeli station broadcasting in Hebrew in its place. Just another notch in its belt to hide its barbarism against the Palestinian people.........

Everyone is all upset and concerned over WP being used, but I have yet to hear anyone say 'What about the Rockets being Fired into Israeli Civilian Populations' or 'What about that dude who just blew himself up with a bomb belt in a crowded dinner'.

Interesting.

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Maybe it's because this is to post comments on the live feed?

What is sickening is the israelis firing a weapon into gaza's populated town which will burn skin to the bone. That is truly a move that needs to be stopped immediately. This is a one-sided war in my opinion.