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The most truly bizarre unexplained murder case in human history-Brazil 1994.

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posted on Dec, 29 2008 @ 07:51 AM
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I don't see anything "out of this world" in this photos.
If there is no blood visible on/around the wounds then this could mean they were done post mortem, right?
Well, some of them, because then we can read about the COD: "acute haemorhage in multiple traumatisms. There is a component of causa mortis by vagus stimulation".
Yeah this guy died a violent death for sure.... but "no blood whatsoever"?

IMHO all this strange wounds we can observe on the provided photos, were probably done by some animals (like someone mentioned earlier - vultures) post mortem.

[edit on 29-12-2008 by xul]



posted on Dec, 29 2008 @ 07:56 AM
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It seems like people are jumping to conclusions without regard to the facts. It is clear that the website that hosted the article had a UFO agenda.

I guess no one bothered to read the autopsy report. I did. It clearly stated death by torture, utilizing a suction device as well as some cutting in particular areas.

It was not Vultures. The torture was done elsewhere and the body dumped where it was found. As correctly stated earlier, there was blood, just not very much where the body was dumped. Vultures would have made more of a mess and there would be plenty of blood around the body. Vultures tear flesh to get at the nutritious internal organs. The wounds were not the type of lacerations typical of vultures.

Brazil, and particularly Sao Paulo where this took place, can be a very violent place. While disturbing, this case is not something that can only be explained by Alien intervention. It is just a case of Mans inhumanity to man.



posted on Dec, 29 2008 @ 07:57 AM
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Okay having thought about this more, I have a theory (apologies if someone said this before).

The odd thing in my mind is the suctioning out of the chest cavity and bowels. That doesn't seem to fit in with standard torture. Unless perhaps they had something that you wanted. If aliens wanted tissue samples why use a crude suction device? That is just going to suck out a mess of organs, fluids and well...bodily waste all mixed together. What good is that for analysis?

I think maybe this was a drug mule. Brazil is famous for extremely sadistic gangs, apparently extreme sadism and a total lack of feeling for the victim is a sign of machismo. Sau Paulo is a hotbed of activity. I think this guy was a drug mule that ran afoul of the gang, or maybe became ill and could not expel the drugs on his own. Drug mules can have pellets, glass vials, or even wax balls holding the drugs. If they wanted them back suctioning out the guys chest cavity and intestines would be one good method.

The article is also a bit suspicious. It says since the corpse had cerebral edema (brain swelling) with no signs of head trauma it must have been caused by extreme pain and torture. That is a leap of logic based on...well who knows what. Lots of things can cause cerebral adema (asprin for instance) and ruptured drug vials surely could.


[edit on 29-12-2008 by Sonya610]



posted on Dec, 29 2008 @ 08:06 AM
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There are some things here that do not fit that the person did this to himself:

The precision of the wounds - lets say - the eye being a clear example.
If you were to cut out your own eye - aside from it being a tremendously tedious job - it would certainly be messy as you would not have the ability to see your work - it would be just guessing and not very accurate.
Not to mention (unless under some chemical assistance - drugs for instance) your brain would fight you on inflicting that kind of injury to yourself. Our nature is to resist pain all together - unless you have been disciplined enough to go through with self infliction (people pierce and tattoo themselves all the time - but they have trained the mind to accept this process). Any average person would not be inclined to try to cut out an organ - and if they did - it would most likely not be one of the vital organs that far out of reach. Maybe it could be a torso area or possibly the genitals - which can easily be seen and worked upon. Again - they may need to be 'blocked' of any pain in order to follow through.

I doubt ETs as stated by a few members already - they would be much more tidy in their work. Why would an alleged advanced group with so much high technology and calibrated moves leave a mess or even a 'crime scene'?

I am going with the gang/drug cartel/organized crime/maniac theory here. If humans want to torture, maim, and/or kill they can and will do it. An evil person(s) with the right tools can perform this kind of thing. Back to Jack the Ripper - he was very close to showing this kind of work - okay... it was messy - but he had the same type of skills in removal of organs, etc.
Give it 100 yrs and we have THIS. And who knows just how long this process took to mutilate, drain blood, and remove (suck out) organs? It could have been a busy weekend.


It would be nice to see if there is a follow up to this story anywhere - although - if they are pinning it on ETs it will probably just be used to scare people into hating Aliens/ETs rather than being taken as an actual crime or further investigated.



posted on Dec, 29 2008 @ 08:18 AM
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Before I am going to lunch I only have time to say the autopsy report is from 1988 and one of the last things it says (and that was left out of the translation) is that a rope was found on the right forearm.

As I am home with a flu, I will try to translate the whole report.



posted on Dec, 29 2008 @ 08:22 AM
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Originally posted by karl 12
This unsolved murder case from Brazil in 1994 involves the most disturbing and truly bizarre death of a single human being ever seen.

Simulation:


This link shows extremely disturbing graphic images - absolute viewer discretion advised:
www.alienvideo.net...

The body was found near the Guarapiranga reservoir, located in the southern area of the city of São Paulo, Brazil and no signs of struggle (or blood) were found.

Discounting the ET angle has anyone ever heard anything more about this case?
Its been called the most truly bizarre unexplained murder case in human history - and probably for very good reason.

This is very, very old news that was discussed, pulled apart and debated extensively on numerous UFO boards as well as UFO magazine in the UK, Tony Dodd and Linda Moulton Howe.
Its the only publicly knowen case of human mutilation and resulted in unprecendeted research to unearth other cases. I spoke to several leading researchs at the time but there were no more human cases. The most likely culprits according to the investigators were drug cartels.gangsters, the holes were caused by rodents, not aliens, but humans at their most EVIL



[edit on 02/10/08 by karl 12]


xul

posted on Dec, 29 2008 @ 08:37 AM
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Originally posted by Terapin
The torture was done elsewhere and the body dumped where it was found.

Yes but how many days later?



Originally posted by Terapin
As correctly stated earlier, there was blood, just not very much where the body was dumped.

Well.. nothing unusual here.



Originally posted by Terapin
Vultures would have made more of a mess and

In time they could.


Originally posted by Terapin
there would be plenty of blood around the body.

Wrong.


Originally posted by Terapin
Vultures tear flesh to get at the nutritious internal organs. The wounds were not the type of lacerations typical of vultures.

Well then maybe some other animal like a rat or - the best possible explanation - a combination of different animals.



posted on Dec, 29 2008 @ 08:38 AM
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Cool, should be enlightening. You and Phage on the moon/mars anomaly threads are like Sherlock and Mycroft Holmes or Mulder& Scully



posted on Dec, 29 2008 @ 08:56 AM
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Originally posted by xul

Originally posted by Terapin
there would be plenty of blood around the body.

Wrong.


No doubt vultures would make more of a mess. They are designed to tear and shred meat, they would not work through little biddy holes to get to the best parts, especially in the chest/abdominal cavity. If the guy was killed on site there would be more blood, he has gaping holes in areas where gravity would cause massive blood flow even if he was dead.

What animals would work through holes that small? Little mice? It would take a heck of a long time for little mice to empty out the guys chest cavity. Plus one would expect a lot more insect activity if that were the case, the body looks pretty fresh.

I think he was killed somewhere else, and as stated before he was quite possibly a drug mule.


[edit on 29-12-2008 by Sonya610]



posted on Dec, 29 2008 @ 09:02 AM
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Unfortuntely this does not look at all unusual to me - having spent ALOT of time "overseas" the past 25 years, I have seen numerous bodies in a similar condition as a result of torture. There are several telling signs - first off, there's plenty of blood (ear, anus, wound on the right arm, etc.). Secondly, the majority of the remaining wounds are BURNS - most likely caused by a pointed metal object (like a poker) that has been heated. This causes a rounded wound with very little blood (because the hot metal cauterizes the wound), in the case of the eye it would explain why the eye is missing - as the soft eye would be popped and would stick to the hot poker. As for other signs of torture, the genitals have been burned and there are poker wounds to the thigh and arm. The ear has been cut off and the tongue has been removed (CLASSIC Torture fare) probably to be taken back to whomever ordered the torture OR to be sent to the poor man's family or business associates as a warning not to do whatever this guy did. Insects and small animals account for the rest. IF you have any questions, I suggest that you search online for photos of tortured bodies, you'll see waht I mean.



posted on Dec, 29 2008 @ 09:58 AM
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Originally posted by Nola213
This case was studied here on ATS about a year ago.

After dozens of pages back and forth, the most likely candidate was vultures, or some other scavenver bird.

The man could have starved to death given his poor physical shape.

Vultures will begin pecking and tearing at the softest, decaying flsh, just to get an entry point. then the can stick their 12-18 inch long necks into these holes and eat soft organs ect.

Good entry points are, the eyes, lips/mouth, private parts ect.

I've seen a couple dozens pirahna (the vultures of the water), basically eat a huge bird from the inside out, it's pretty sick.

But no, this is most like the work of animals, and possibly the work of Humans (sad but a possibility.) As far as E.T.'s, nope, just not buying it, way too messy with thier sort of tech. If aliens are visiting and ubducting. Plus they usually don't kill humans.

Because most all ,if not all mutilations are done buy scavengers, and/or wild dogs, hyenas. Something a fit human could fend off from a home, or with a group of people.

Cows on the otherhand cannot,and die outside, and aren't discovered for days later.
We here at ATS decided that it was Vultures that was the cause of death? Is there any way you can give us a link to the old thread, cause with the evidence(ie. lack of blood, and burns around the cavities, and the man still being alive while this is happening, etc), I find that kind of an odd "decision" based on what we have.

Now, I'm not to sure if this is an alien abduction, but to say that this is animals is a little crazy, if you ask me. I tried to research this case a little more, but I couldn't find anything. Are there any other human deaths similar to this, and/or does anybody know what can cause burns like that?



posted on Dec, 29 2008 @ 10:26 AM
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Another member mentioned watching a documentary about cattle mutilation. I saw that show too about a year or so ago. They were able to sufficiently explain cattle mutilations as natural causes brought on by decay and parasites. So I thought perhaps something like that happened with this man as well.

However, what makes me take pause is the autopsy report. It clearly says the man was alive when these wounds were inflicted. I cannot see vultures or other creatures doing this to him while still alive. Honest question: Do you think your scenario is possible given the autopsy reports? I have a hard time believing vultures removed his ear, tongue, eye, jaw, internal organs, blood, and anal tract while still alive. An eye or ear maybe but not all of that.



posted on Dec, 29 2008 @ 10:33 AM
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That's a possible theory, too, Sonya. Good job. A drug mule is very possible. I would think they would simply have gutted him to remove the drugs instead of using suction, though. Suction seems like the harder way to go about it. But your theory is at least likely considering the drug world down there.



posted on Dec, 29 2008 @ 11:02 AM
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Now thats graphic.
As a aquarist I must say that in case this person somehow got into the water fish maybe can be responsible for this kind of wounds.

The wounds on his chest and legs looks like piranha bites (slightly oval)
If he was floating on the water faced one side down that may explain the missing organs/tissue on one side of the face.

Further, species of catfish and eel are capable of penetrating the corpse and remove soft tissue.

If the corpse somehow ended up on shore insects (ants/ flymaggots) and small mammals or birds (vultures) can do the rest.

Or something completely different happened and he was cut open by ETs...
Just my two cents.



posted on Dec, 29 2008 @ 12:27 PM
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I'm sorry to say, I have run across this horrendous case a couple years ago. I research some strange s*** as a writer, and I believe I came across this particular travesty while researching muti killings.

thenewsouthafrica.blogspirit.com...

Muti murders aren't known by many people, and although it's been a blip on the screen of msm like CNN and the Times, muti murders are quite the problem worlds over, and cases in london have sprung up a few years ago ( as an example such beliefs can travel quite a span).

Just an idea, not sure if it holds any water in regards to this case, but one similarity draws my eye is- the man was said to be alive during this... dissection. Same with muti.

In muti regards, the victim is best to remain alive, and each body part is used for different potions. ( Associated with witch doctors- not all, but certainly some).

moderntribalist.blogspot.com...

www.timesonline.co.uk...



posted on Dec, 29 2008 @ 12:28 PM
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Originally posted by Anonymous ATS
Unfortuntely this does not look at all unusual to me - having spent ALOT of time "overseas" the past 25 years, I have seen numerous bodies in a similar condition as a result of torture. There are several telling signs - first off, there's plenty of blood (ear, anus, wound on the right arm, etc.).


Yeah I agree. But why suck out the guts? I just don't believe that much animal or insect activity could explain a hallowed out chest/abdomen, not with the rest of the body being intact and not nibbled on.

Is that a known torture method? Suctioning out body organs and intestines? It could have been a one off thing, and not normal practice (i.e. they happened to have the equipment and got creative).



posted on Dec, 29 2008 @ 01:24 PM
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IMHO...

Cerebal edema is an excess accumulation of water in the intracellular and/or extracellular spaces of the brain.

Of which there are 4 possible causes..

(1) Vasogenic cerebral edema
(2) Cytotoxic cerebral edema
(3) Osmotic cerebral edema
(4) Interstitial cerebral edema

Of these, the only logical cause of the Cerebral edema is Cytotoxic cerebral edema since one of its effects is brought about by a cardiac arrest through massive amounts of blood loss.

The multiple wounds inflicted on the victim suggests to me at least, that this is not gangland related torture, nor to do with the victim being a mule, but one of simply farming for Endorphins and peptides to further research in this area.

Despite what is known about endorpins, little is known about how it works within the Human Body, other than it is said to be more powerful than many of the illegal drugs to be found on the streets today. Animals (invertebrates) also produce endorphins and this is where much of our present knowledge comes from.

Going back to Cerebral edema..

Beta-endorphin is released into the blood (from the pituitary gland) and into the spinal cord and brain from hypothalamic neurons. The beta-endorphin that is released into the blood cannot enter the brain in large quantities because of the blood-brain barrier.

However, if the victim is induced into having a Cerebral edema (caused by severe blood-loss) the Blood Brain Barrier is broken and the Beta-endorphin is then allowed in large quantities into the brain, thereby allowing the victim to produce even more beta-endorphins before death occurs. To farm the endorphin's and peptides before they naturally decay, a sudden suction of all blood would be necessary before death occurs. Importantly, recent studies have demonstrated that diverse animal and human tissues are in fact capable of producing morphine itself, which is not a peptide

If this is indeed farming of endorphins and peptides then that would also explain the removal of some of the body's internal organs, for further research.


Circulatory shock is defined as an inadequate blood flow throughout the body. In the absence of mechanisms that function to maintain blood pressure within a normal range of values, blood pressure decreases dramatically. As a consequence, tissues can suffer from damage as a result of too little delivery of oxygen to cells. Severe circulatory shock can damage vital body tissues to the extent that death of the individual occurs.

Source

I conclude, that this victim was the subject of specific medical procedures. The blood and [some] internal organs was harvested to carry out further research in possible endorphins/peptides research. Some of the wounds inflicted, the removal of eyes, jaw, ear while not death causing, could very well have been used to induce the victim to further extremes of pain and fear and to later cause confusion to anyone trying to figure out this case. While the victim may have indeed been still alive while some of these procedures were being carried, shock from blood-loss or pain would have thankfully made him unconscious there-after.

[edit on 29/12/2008 by Freelancer]



posted on Dec, 29 2008 @ 02:16 PM
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OK, here is the translation, made with the help of two on-line translators to make it quicker.

Some of the sentences that may have a strange structure and be somewhat incomprehensible are like that on the original. In some cases I could not understand what was written in the PDF file, in other occasions, my lack of medical knowledge was the problem, but I think that this full text will help a lot, considering that all sites have "selected" parts of the autopsy.

The words of which I am not sure are followed by "????", and the "XXXX" are the blackened areas of the original.


At October 03 of one thousand nine hundred and eighty eight, in this city of Sao Paulo, in order to attend the request of doctor Osvaldo S. Profeta, Police Chief., the infra-signed ones, forensic doctors from the Forensic Institute proceeded to the examination of body of crime in UNKNOWN.

to respond to the following queries:

First - Was there death?
Second - What the cause?
Third - What was the nature of the agent, instrument or way that produced it?
Fourth – Was it produced through poison, fire, explosive, asphyxia or torture, or by other insidious or cruel way? (Specified answer).

When the examination was carried out, they passed the following report:

QUALIFICATION: UNKNOWN, XXXXXXXX, male, white, gathered on the street Caboclo Dengoso, seventeen, Recanto do Sul, Sao Paulo, other data ignored.

HISTORICAL: Finding of the corpse. Body removed from the site above. CLOTHES: naked.

REALITY OF DEATH: Shown by the signs: no reflexes and absence of vital signs (breathing and heartbeat).

DESCRIPTION: Cadaver of adult, male, white, good musculoskeletal constitution, symmetrical head, oval face, oblique forehead, straight hair, dark brown, baldness bi-frontal-parietal-occipital, iris damaged, and preserved natural teeth, apparent age of forty to fifty years. Normal and medium biotype.

EXTERNAL EXAMINATION: We observed: 1) Removal with cut in bevel of external ear with signs of emptying in soft parts; 2) Partial removal of left external ear and with signs of vital reaction; 3) Right and left enucleation of eyeballs and with signs of blood in the orbital cavities; 4) Removal of large flap of skin on right hemiface, superior portion and in the region of the left hemiface, right side, inferior mandibular portion; 5) Multiple incised superficial and infinite injuries produced by cutting instrument in the whole physical frontal surface, (face, thorax, abdomen, superior right and left member, inferior right and left member); 6) Muscular mass of superior right member - uninsertion of the articulation and moved to the third proximal of the right arm and also shown up in left forearm; 7) Muscles of the right and left pectoralis major route of its insertion in the subcutaneous and released; 8) In right and left axillary region presents circular solution of continuity, with a diameter of four centimetres, with uniform margins and reaction of vital signs and emptying of soft tissue; 9) Enucleation of umbilical and origin of the circular hole of about three centimetres and depressed abdomen; 10) Elongated elliptical incision with a diameter of three and a half centimetres in left inguinal fold; 11) Removal of scrotal bag; 12) Wide, oval incision near the perineum and indicative of the making of female genital or attempted removal of penis; 13) Right and left thigh musculature displaced from the proximal third with groping. Only the Emores (????); 14) Removal of anal orifice with spacious incision, elongated shape, oval and diameter of about fifteen by eight centimetres; 15) Perforating injury of two centimetres in diameter, located in the interdigital space of second and third toes of both feet (right and left); 16) We observed emptying of right and left orbital regions, oral cavity, pharynx, oropharynx, cervical region, axillary right and left region, abdomen, lower pelvis, inguinal right and left region.

INTERNAL EXAMINATION: By bimastoid-vertical incision and folding of the scalp and opening of the cavity according to technique of Griessinger, we observe: 17) Integral cranial hubcap; 18) Cerebral edema. By sub-incision mantle-pubic and after removal of sternal plastron-condro, we observe: 19) Rupture of trachea with removal of soft tissue and solfago????, vases muscles; 20) Removal of intercostal muscle at the level of the second, third, fourth, fifth left intercostal spaces; 21) In the abdominal cavity and pelvic region absence of organs with removal of all abdominal innards showing up pullout of the organs and with vital reaction; 22) In the exploration of the superior right and left member and inferior right and left member, we observe: right and left incision of the muscles of the right and left arms and thighs, with posterior pullout of tissue; 23) Thoracic viscera with usual topographic location.

DISCUSSION AND CONCLUSION: We examined the adult body, white, whose cause-mortis was due to acute bleeding in multiple trauma. There are also component of cause-mortis by vagal stimulation. This injury victim presents characteristics of vital reaction, meaning that there is a torture component. It is suggestive of the modus-operandi incisions in the soft and natural orifices by aspiration. Such a framework should be behavioural expressions of insane or another option: macabre ritual. In terms of right forearm, third distal there was rope that was immobilizing the segment.

ANSWER TO THE QUERIES: first: yes; second: polytrauma and vagal inhibition; third: mechanical agent; and to the fourth: yes, as for the way employed. There being no further business, this report concludes.


[edit on 29/12/2008 by ArMaP]



posted on Dec, 29 2008 @ 02:30 PM
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There are many alien races, probably there is another hostile race experimenting with us....



posted on Dec, 29 2008 @ 03:32 PM
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I do not see a thing that was not possible of being made by humans in this case, at least according to the autopsy.

The only thing that is unexplainable is the reason for doing it, but I think that Freelancer may have a point and this was some human harvesting from a unwilling donor, and as my medical knowledge is extremely small, I don't know if this may be related with the large amount of plastic surgeons that live and work and study in Brazil.




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