The most truly bizarre unexplained murder case in human history-Brazil 1994.

how do they know that his mutilation was the cause of his death?

couldn't he have been dead before the mutilation happened?

it could also just be decay. flies like the face.


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I think the information about his being alive while worked on would probably be covered in the autopsy report linked in the OP.

Prevenge: Maybe you should read it.

At first glance, as I haven't read it myself (but I'm not arguing that he was actually dead and that the removal of the eye and whatnot is a product of decay) I would say that the bruising around the incision marks would indicate that the wounds were afflicted while the heart was still beating, fresh blood to the site. And I read something about hemmoraging being observed. Which again, would indicate that the subject was still alive and the hemmoraging was a result of trauma.

we've got guys committing suicide via chainsaws and jigsaws.

maybe he did this all to himself?

if it was cult activity or aliens.. let's be happy that we don't see this more often.

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Originally posted by Jay-in-AR
I think the information about his being alive while worked on would probably be covered in the autopsy report linked in the OP.

Prevenge: Maybe you should read it.

no dude. i'm eating.

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Originally posted by prevenge
we've got guys committing suicide via chainsaws and jigsaws.
maybe he did this all to himself?
if it was cult activity or aliens.. let's be happy that we don't see this more often.

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Well Brazil has some sadistic drug dealers, and also some hard core black magic practitioners (20 boys found mutilated in rituals).

I am thinking it was some form of torture or more likely ritualized murder. Seems they may have wanted the innards and brains for some reason. I am sure a machine shop punch, or maybe a laser could provide some nice tools for punching holes in chests, arms, etc... and then a suction device could be used for the rest.

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Eh, I haven't read it either. Sure you don't want to?
Alright, alright. I'll read it.

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maybe he did this all to himself?

Jeah, he probably started with his jaw, and then his earlobe. I wonder, did he remove his internal organs before he took out his rectum, or after.

I saw a very similar, if not this story, on earthfiles.com. Linda Moulton Howe did an extensive piece on this and other human mutilations about a year and a half ago.

fermento

Originally posted by karl 12
This unsolved murder case from Brazil in 1994 involves the most disturbing and truly bizarre death of a single human being ever seen.

Discounting the ET angle has anyone ever heard anything more about this case?
Its been called the most truly bizarre unexplained murder case in human history - and probably for very good reason.

Yes, quite bizarre, but not the most bizarre case I have seen. Jack the Ripper was worse. However, I'm not quick to believe aliens did this. If more bodies were found like this I might think so. Also it being in Brazil makes me wonder how the case was handled or who might have done this. The fact that the man was awake when this happens shows one of two things..either torture (man) or indifference (man or alien).
However to label it as the most truly bizarre unexplained murder case in human history is incorrect. I have seen worse... far worse. From Jack to Auchwitch, man is capable of such extreme violence. Jeffery Dahmer used to drill holes into his victim's skulls and pour acid in. Ed Gein would skin his victims and make lamp shades out of their skin and give their flesh to his neighbors calling it 'venison.' Although both these are solved it just shows there are a lot of psychotic idiots out there. Not taking any less from your post, not trying to make you look bad or anything. I just feel that as gross as this is, it isn't the grossest or worst... sad to say there are many just as bad as this. Who or what did this remains unexplained and thus makes it all the more strange. I wonder if we could find out more information on this person... did he have enemies? I wonder if he was a criminal? Do you have any other information on the victim? Great post, thanks!

Originally posted by enigmania
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maybe he did this all to himself?

Jeah, he probably started with his jaw, and then his earlobe. I wonder, did he remove his internal organs before he took out his rectum, or after.

All though I don't think this person did this to himself... you'd be surprised at what humans can do to themselves. I saw a guy once who took an axe and chopped his head 13 times before he lost consciousness. Again, I don't think this person did this though.

Originally posted by Alienmojo

Yes, quite bizarre, but not the most bizarre case I have seen. Jack the Ripper was worse. However, I'm not quick to believe aliens did this. If more bodies were found like this I might think so. Also it being in Brazil makes me wonder how the case was handled or who might have done this. The fact that the man was awake when this happens shows one of two things..either torture (man) or indifference (man or alien).
However to label it as the most truly bizarre unexplained murder case in human history is incorrect. I have seen worse... far worse. From Jack to Auchwitch, man is capable of such extreme violence. Jeffery Dahmer used to drill holes into his victim's skulls and pour acid in. Ed Gein would skin his victims and make lamp shades out of their skin and give their flesh to his neighbors calling it 'venison.' Although both these are solved it just shows there are a lot of psychotic idiots out there. Not taking any less from your post, not trying to make you look bad or anything. I just feel that as gross as this is, it isn't the grossest or worst... sad to say there are many just as bad as this. Who or what did this remains unexplained and thus makes it all the more strange. I wonder if we could find out more information on this person... did he have enemies? I wonder if he was a criminal? Do you have any other information on the victim? Great post, thanks!

I think what makes it the most bizarre is the precision of something that appears to be lasers, and the total lack of blood, with indications that the person was alive at the time. Now, it probably isn't the most grotesque murder out there, but it may be the most bizarre due to the conditions and the evidence.

I like how they used this case as "tentative evidence" that it was, in fact, none other than evil aliens.
If this isn't proof, what is?!
Site was extremely biased, imo.
But good post, weird murder.

Doesn't have to be government, doesn't have to be extraterrestrial.
Some people just enjoy watching others suffer.
Man knows no wrath like that of his own.

Very disturbing photo. Not hard to imagine since we experiment on lab animals infecting them with numerous diseases, viruses, hell we even test hair products on them before we try it ourselves. We tell ourselves it's okay to do since animals are not intelligent. Advanced beings would justify their actions to other advanced beings using our own twisted sense of superiority. Humans are barely conscious compared to us.. it's ok.. they don't feel a thing, see how easy they forget? Other aliens crying out for human rights and being ridiculed for saving dumb animals. lol seems worse when the same reasoning is applied to us humans. I think this photo proves even aliens need time practicing on lower animals before operating on themselves just like we do in our medical schools.

I think it's a misleading article designed to generate speculation about aliens. We are given photos, two names and a location. I searched the names Zapata Garcia and Dr Rubens. The only place they are mentioned is on UFO sites. Such a mysterious case would feature on News sites...it doesn't. When an event is only supported by other peoples' references to that event, it has no substance. It's a major smokescreen in UFOlogy. People reference each other all the time until events take on a sheen of fact.

The photos are not nice at all. I'm a guy that definitely shies away from extreme stuff, but the story (and comments) were too intriguing not to. Just had breakfast and could've Anyway, looking at the photos, they are clearly real. That man has certainly been tortured to death. This brings us back to location Brazil, one-time murder capital of S America.. Human rights abuses and torture, are well reported. Torture and death by oxy-aceteline torch or blowtorch was once used extensively in South America and is still used today to torture informers, rival gang leaders. I remember a documentary detailing a Mexican prison riot. A prisoner was chained in his cell and had his eyes burnt out by oxy-acetalene torch. Eyes and genitals are sensitive and most accounts of torture focus on those areas.

I think these photos are more likely to be of a victim of Brazilian drug cartels. Informer, bad debts or rival? I think he was tortured to death.

I'm gonna need some serious counseling after viewing the information in that link.

Wow

We should all hope that that isn't the beginning of a 'trend'

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Yeah, the trend started in 1994- But man, I think 2009 will be the year it really takes off!

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The idea this man's wounds were self inflicted reminds me a segment from a comedy I saw years ago:

Person A: The man was found chopped up and stuffed in a suitcase.
Person B: A murder?
Person A (Sarcastically): No, Suicide.

There's no way this man did this to himself. There have been some rather disturbing cases where people high on PCP or people who are simply deranged will mutilate themselves or commit suicide in a violent manner. I could maybe believe it if just his tongue, eye, jaw, and tongue that were removed but not having his insides, internal organs, anal cavity, and blood sucked out. He would be dead before finishing the process. And even if by some crazy twist of science he survived for a little while, there is no way he would not be in shock and make it to where he was later discovered without any blood evidence (as the article states).

Clearly something or someone did this to him then dumped the body. My intuition agrees with Sonya in that it was occult related. That would be the most logical explanation considering similar cases that have been reported in South America. Could also be aliens. Definitely not self inflicted, though.

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That first case is eerily similar and definitely lends some level of credence to the alien explanation.

Just to note, if you look at the first picture of the victim, I believe, you can see some blood on the left arm wound.
So it's silly to say there was "No blood", as there was, and is.
Just no blood at the scene.

From what I once read or heard an insider say, these types of mutilations were black ops designed to put fear into us about ETs.

No source whatsoever that I can think of, but someone else may have that info...

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Just in case you were talking to me (since your post had no reply tag and is right below mine lol):

Yes, very true. The photographs make it obvious he had blood on him and some hemorrhaging in the skin tissue.

What I was getting at is had this been self inflicted like another member suggested, he would not have been able to get to where he was discovered with those kinds of wounds. And if (and that's a huge if) by some freak chance he was able to, blood would have been around the scene and not just the bit we see in the photographs. With those kind of wounds, you would expect to see blood everywhere but the reports mention the absence of blood. Surely wherever he was mutilated would have been a bloody mess. This just shows me he was mutilated and murdered elsewhere and then his body was dumped, thus one factor in dismissing the self inflicted theory.

I'm not saying there was not a drop of blood found on his body. You can't inflict that kind of damage and not have blood residue or stains on you even if the body was moved from where the initial torture took place.