Whats going on at yellowstone?

reply to post by westcoast


Number One reason for choosing West by God Virginia is

I was born there and its waaaaaay up high in the beautiful mountains.

Family is there but sister M and her family are moving to Southern Illinois this spring. Yikes for them.

It's cheap there too, looked at rental houses... saw lots of 2-3 bedroom houses for rent for 600 bucks a month.

I am off to bed so I shall lose count of this now but as of this minute the 4 earthquakes have been in and out of the listings 27 times tonight.

Might leave my computer on just to see!

Originally posted by PuterMan
reply to post by westcoast

 

They are NOT deliberately removing quakes. Would you like me to send you a wave file and just see if you could remove one? Only joking, but joking apart it would not be easy. Then, if it was a 3.4 it would show on several recorders and some would be on different networks. UUSS contract for YVO but the PB recorders are completely different. It could not be done. Sorry, I know this is a conspiracy site but I am very convinced they could not remove something fro the trace. You also have to bear in mind that they know we are watching!

They could never get away with since they have no idea who is looking at GEE and/or recording it, or looking at plots or seismos in the BUD data centre, or downloading waveforms using Vase or JWEED or the myriad other data tools there are out there. The chances of them getting caught with their pants down are huge.

What we do need to know is WHAT triggers these darned silly computers to falsely report? I have asked Jake at the YVO but he does not know as these are, as I said, run for the YVO by UUSS. By the way he also said that they (YVO) get paged over 2.5 mag so you have that to contend with as well.

Currently this looks like some piece of software has these quakes in the buffer at UUSS. The USGS computer takes then out, and then the UUSS one feeds them back in again since it thinks they are missing. The 3.4 is currently in the list so I am expecting it to be deleted soon and then put back in again. It is fairly obvious that this is two computer systems getting confused. Poor dears, they do get confused easily!

Edit: There you go round 18. Now out of the list. Wait 5 minutes and it will be back in again I bet.

edit on 7/2/2011 by PuterMan because: (no reason given)

Well, that is what I figured. I mean, I could see if it were JUST the UUSS, that perhaps, since there seems to be a bit of a delay even on the 'live' seismos' that it could be techincally possible (if not near impossible). But than there is GEE (which is still not working)....but yet there are even more out there, that are at least close enough to pick up traces. So, I agree that it would be darn near impossible. Then there is the why. I could understand (if I were to feed into the conspiracy theory) why they would remove the larger quakes, but 1.6 and smaller? What would be the point??

I too think that the software is the most likely and realistic culprit. I still find that quite distressing. You would think that a place like Yellowstone would warrant nothing but the best and most accurate!!

Think of the plot of the 1985 James Bond 007 film A View to a Kill, starring Roger Moore (the 007 movies are all strong psy-op Illuminati conditioning films).........

To cause Yellowstone to erupt, first the US military would need to do drill down and flood the sensitive underground areas and then set off nukes at the base of the lake and in other sensitive underground areas and you will get the necessary earthquake that is needed to cause the eruption sequence to start by creating a crack for the magma to escape to the surface.

In addition to that, you would need to exert pressure on the magma chamber to force an eruption to happen. This can be accomplished in a variety of different ways through the use of HAARP. Once the caldera is cracked in one place and the magma is forced out through pressures created by HAARP, it would set off a chain reaction as more and more eruptions would happen. Eventually, you could get 50-100 eruptions taking place over several weeks, or even months.

The caldera could definitely be compromised by the US military if they really wanted to do it. And of course if they did do it, it would lead to the martial law police state that the US government has been planning for so long.

Have anyone of you gal's or guy's been notice the Soda Butte seismo?

Looks like it have a regular electronic interference. Or ?

And have anyone of you any info regarding some USGS Track Drilling rigs that are supposed to have been or still are doing their work at Yellowstone?

reply to post by Red Cloak

If someone would trigger a Yellowstone eruption half of the USA would be compromised and it would be a global cataclysm with the risk of extinction. I don't see how this would benefit any elite group that control a big part of the world today seeing as they would sooner or later suffer and possibly die out too. I could only see this act of madness as an end-game for some maniac wanting to "destroy the world" like in an absurd cartoonish fashion.

I couldn't locate a date for this article, so forgive me if this has been posted..

Yellowstone supervolcano, new Ice Age could topple US government

As evidence mounts that the world may fast be slipping into the next Ice Age, Washington insiders are hurrying to solidify a new power base for centralized government operations.

Fears that the US capital might be struck by another more deadly terrorist attack—or other disasters—prompted agencies a decade ago to hurriedly establish back-up operations in case catastrophe struck.

I figured that all the members who have been following the Yellowstone events could take a look and break down what this writer says in the piece.. I am not up to date with all of the stuff, just thought it was interesting that someone would write about a dual threat scenario and the possibility that their could be an effort to change the location of the backup US Capitol.

reply to post by westcoast


Nothing but the best of the best of the best!

By the way those 4 quakes are still playing musical chairs. 43 times since last night they have now been in and out of the database.

Edit:

Letter to USGS

Good morning Jeremy,

I have put a message on the webs on both USGS and UUSS about the Yellowstone earthquakes, there are 4 of them, that are making everyone giddy yo-yoing in and out of the listings. Since they first appeared on the 5th Feb they have subsequently been in and out of the listings 43 times at the time of writing.

At first I thought I had a problem with my data collection software but on checking if found that they are going through a cycle of being put in/taken out.

Here are two sample 7 days file attached.

It is still going on as I write.

These are the 4 earthquakes
Date/Time UTC,Latitude,Longitude,Magnitude,Depth(Km),Location
2011-02-05T08:59:35.000Z,44.55210,-110.92210,3.4000,12.4000,Yellowstone National Park. Wyoming
2011-02-04T21:46:13.000Z,44.73110,-110.52450,2.6000,3.8000,Yellowstone National Park. Wyoming
2011-02-04T21:13:10.000Z,44.78410,-111.01760,2.6000,0.9000,Yellowstone National Park. Wyoming
2011-02-04T21:12:21.000Z,44.57080,-110.71680,2.0000,11.4000,Yellowstone National Park. Wyoming

I have also marked them in one of the text files with ****

Whilst I don't suppose that USGS is the least bit concerned with losing credibility with the members of ATS I would suggest that in other organisations, that collect data from USGS, there must be some raised eyebrows!

This really needs to be sorted

Best regards

reply to post by JacKatMtn


I would say that the article was relatively recent due to the fact that the Ice Age theories have only recently found any credence outside a dedicated few - even amongst the tin-foil hat brigade.

I will take just a few small sections from the link you provided and make comments upon them.

More worrisome is the possibly impending Ice Age. It may not materialize. If it doesn't, Denver remains the best location. Conversely, an Ice Age may come, but only the so-called mini-Ice Age. A small Ice Age would probably present an inconvenience and task logisticians, but it's workable.

A full-blown, major Ice Age, though, is definitely a game-changer. The entire region would have to be abandoned and the city of Denver—and most of northern Colorado—written off for as long as several thousand years, maybe more.

My first question is why would the US Government, presumably under advice from it's scientists, even be considering an ice age or a mini ice age. With Al et al busily salting away the trillions on the back of the fictitious climate change scam, and their best scientists braying loudly trying to shout down the so called 'deniers', you would think that the Gubbermint would be solidly convinced that we are more likely to be burning up in a massive temperature increase than considering an ice age. I would suggest that the writer is making assumptions and putting words in the mouths of the PTB since I do not for one minute think they disbelieve the Gospel of Climate Change of the Church of Al Gore.

For now, the decision is to wait it out.

According to who may I ask? Does this writer have inside knowledge that permits that statement?

And the steaming, burning Yellowstone caldera dome is rising at a faster pace than ever recorded in history—an ominous sign that it might indeed erupt.

The writer has obviously been reading too many blogs of the doom-saying variety and chooses to ignore the facts which are well known to serious Yellowstone watchers as opposed to the 'OMG' variety. You can tell that just from the "steaming, burning Yellowstone caldera dome". I guarantee you that if you look out over the Park using the Mt Washburn webcam, you will not see any steaming and burning caldera. Steam from geysers yes, burning????

Any serious watcher knows that caldera uplift is in abatement and in some places is subsiding. This is not however the opinion of the blogosphere in general.

Finally

There are those citizens that would celebrate the idea of getting rid of the federal government—especially such unpopular institutions as the IRS, EPA and BLM. But with any kind of sober reflection most rational individuals would have to conclude that a disaster leading to total anarchy—a Mad Max type of country—is really not something to desire in any shape or form.

This is a purely subjective opinion. I for one would welcome total removal of our (Irish) government and a return to the old ways where communities were communities and families were extended and the main exchange of goods was barter. There is absolutely no ground upon which to state that a catastrophe would lead to a Mad Max type scenario. For a time there might be an element of that, but methinks the writer watches too many films.

As to the terrorist attack element of the article, if the US Government wants to go round turning over stones looking for terrorists then good luck to them. I just wish they would stop trying to involve me in their paranoia

As to the removal of the Federal Government, I cannot imagine that many State Government would have a huge problem with that in a non disaster situation.

reply to post by Red Cloak

This can be accomplished in a variety of different ways through the use of HAARP. Once the caldera is cracked in one place and the magma is forced out through pressures created by HAARP......

I have yet to find anyone who can answer the following question for which, if I was James Randi, I would offer one million dollars.

"Can you please explain to me, in scientific terms with calculations and diagrams how a radio frequency generator (HAARP) with a maximum wattage can create 'pressures' (please define) in Yellowstone, or indeed anywhere else in the world, that can cause earthquakes of sufficient size to 'set off' Yellowstone."

I look forward to a mini scientific dissertation on the subject by way of reply. You can be as technical as you like. Thanks.

Volcanic eruptions can lead to an ice-age.
And global warming can lead to an ice-age.
I long ago split from the water-world crowd when I found the research on ice cores.

The melting of the ice caps has lead to strong La Ninas. Cold fresh water sinks.

www.youtube.com...

www.youtube.com...

I won't go on more here. I'll be in my crazy corner if you want to talk about the future of our climate.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

reply to post by PuterMan


Reply from USGS

Thanks for reporting this discrepancy. One of our web servers had fallen out of sync. We are repairing the problem, and the 4 quakes should not reappear in your feed.

Like I said first of all - software problems. Sorry, no conspiracy!

Originally posted by PuterMan
reply to post by PuterMan

 

Reply from USGS

Thanks for reporting this discrepancy. One of our web servers had fallen out of sync. We are repairing the problem, and the 4 quakes should not reappear in your feed.

Like I said first of all - software problems. Sorry, no conspiracy!

edit on 8/2/2011 by PuterMan because: (no reason given)

Although a server problem is most likely, I'd bet on it, you cannot rule out a deliberate action. It would be easy to do with the means.

The cynic in me, tells me they were stirring the pot.
Our first scientist were cavemen. The cavemen that play with fire. But not the firemakers exactly. The cooks. When they started cooking, they started to understand chemistry. Fire was a tool first. Crows and ravens can fashion tools and use them. But when you start cooking, you are transforming materials through heat transfer, you are changing the states of matter and causing chemical reactions.

Stir the pot, and watch the reaction.
fish stew

reply to post by Robin Marks


A server / software problem is the ONLY explanation. This was obvious to me as soon as it started happening. "Out of sync" is a nice non technical explanation but basically it seems to me that the buffer of data coming in from the UUSS was not getting cleared down.

There is no way that they would want to lose face to the outside world with such stupidity on purpose in my humble opinion.

reply to post by PuterMan


Like I said, in all probability, you are likely correct.
But how do I know you aren't CIA.
I don't.
And if you were you wouldn't admit it.
Since I have no proof you aren't, there is a possibilty, no matter how remote or improbable.
Maybe you've been placed here to calm us here, the ones with the tinfoil hats. Distracting us and counteracting our claims.

With my tongue in cheek for too long, I must now stop before I clamp down too hard as I giggle.

Ouch, it would be easy for a hacker to sabotage the software at the USGS and Utah guys.
Even easier for the insiders within the agencies. Homeland Security. Don't they have a Yellowstone file? FEMA, aren't they suppose to plan for just such an occurance? The Pentagon? Don't they access all threats, domestic and foreign, and natural? The CIA? The Whitehouse? Shouldn't all the pertinent information concerning one of the world's largest active volcanoes cross across thier desks?

Or did they let just the YVO and the Utah guys determine how best to handle public notification after the media senstation which was created by the bloggers, and You Tube alarmists during the Yellowstone Lake swarm in winter 2008/2009???? (I'm one.)

Save face?

You only lose face when your actions or mistakes are made public, and are common knowledge.

Someone in the government beside the geologists analysed the public reaction. I don't know who, nor I claim to know how seriously they take it. But I tend to think they take the threat seriously and are active.

Peter Cervelli from the YVO confessed he lurked out here. You think he's the only one?

You guys are so lucky to have me on the case.

The Chinese are interested in Yellowstone.
From the Xinhua News Agency, so you know it's official, because it's owned by the Chinese government.

news.xinhuanet.com...

So they weren't testing just public reaction, or just media reaction, they want to know what the whole world is thinking.

Anmarie finally found the report detailing the swarms and uplift. It was released in National Geographic last week. So that was the first part. Release important report and watch interest. Then after Yellowstone is on the radar, throw up a bunch of phantom quakes on the maps and get out your gauges.

Peter Cervelli knew he was going to be getting lots of media calls from all over the whole after they released their papers. The YVO was ready. Unlike 2008/09.

It seems that even the Chineses intelligence services are interested. They staff the Xinhua News Agency and government "minders" check every story.

They are listening to the buzz. They are measure the resonance of the media. It's like a tuning fork. They rap it a couple of times and note the vibrations.

There is a math to music. Pythagoras studied vibrations and ratios.

And someone is studying us.

reply to post by Robin Marks


Robin, I read your posts....am dealing with new seismic stuff up my way and now see these two new threads. Can't help but wonder about connections.


FCC: Presidential emergency alerts to be tested


Obama Launches Total Media Takeover System

reply to post by Robin Marks

But how do I know you aren't CIA.
I don't.

You are correct you don't know. By the same token I don't know that you are not an activist sent into this thread by the US Government to stir people up with wild conspiracy ideas with the intention of getting them so worked up that they start a revolution that the Government can then put down, and use to remove a large part of the population..

And if you were you wouldn't admit it.

Correct. I am not and I don't admit it

Since I have no proof you aren't, there is a possibilty, no matter how remote or improbable.

Absolutely Mr Robin CIA Marks infiltrator and activist. Your mission, to utilise You Tube and conspiracy sites to spread wild conspiracy theories including repeating earthquakes which is going to get large number of the population in a panic. OMG There were 47 3.4 earthquakes in the Park (47 got deleted but better not tell them that); swarms - which never took place they were normal; to disseminate information about fracking and gas extraction that is untrue (well at least as far as the public are concerned)

Maybe you've been placed here to calm us here, the ones with the tinfoil hats. Distracting us and counteracting our claims.

And maybe you have been sent here to stir us all up when we have come up with a perfectly reasonable explanation because you are looking for a reason to shut down the conspiracy sites, or herd the population into FEMA camps, or kill the Internet? I know your game Mr Robin Alphabet Agency Marks!

With my tongue in cheek for too long, I must now stop before I clamp down too hard as I giggle.

*also removes tongue - ah that is better*

You only lose face when your actions or mistakes are made public, and are common knowledge.

This would have been. Anyone utilising that data would have seen this happening.

Peter Cervelli from the YVO confessed he lurked out here. You think he's the only one?

No he is not. Fact!

That is the first time I have been accused of being a CIA agent.
Phew, thought my cover had been blown for a minute.

You said, "That is the first time I have been accused of being a CIA agent.
Phew, thought my cover had been blown for a minute."


To correct the record, I actually never said you were CIA.

And I'm not part of the New World Order crew. I've followed all the alternative views. But mine is too unique to be part of any. I wouldn't belong to a group that would have me a member. I was not a team player in the army, I was deemed an "individual". I suppose that's good.

If I am an agent spreading "my" views to misinform. Then I'm doing a lousy job. My theories have not recieved widespread noterity. Soon I'll be religated to surfing AOL and the Huffington Post.

Did you know the Huffington Post censored Jesse Ventura after asking him to write for the website? They pulled his 911 piece and said they don't cover conspiracy theories. I boycotted the site. Before I stopped reading it, I saw many articles which could be considered conspiratorial.

If I'm doing nothing else, at least I know my words have been bouncing around in "Official Heads". If I get them scratching their heads, I've done my job.

You're right, I'm a revolutionary. A rebel.

Vive La Revolution!
Long live the revolution!

A few large signatures today.