Whats going on at yellowstone?

ok here
www.seis.utah.edu...

whats that one on top btwn 8:15 - 9:15

It might be gone by the time you see this post but I have a screenshot saved and another of the map at USGS BUT I cannot upload anything right now to Media for some frackin reason.

edit to add

the event map is on this page, scroll down
theextinctionprotocol.wordpress.com...

still here at the moment
earthquake.usgs.gov...

reply to post by berkeleygal


I think you're link proves my point. Throw a few big quakes up on the map and watch to see how the blogs react.

This site shows the map but does not track down any source. If they had, they would have noticed that it was a computer generated (?) message and had not yet been reviewed. It's bad reporting. If people want to act like reporters and journalists, at least they could check their "facts" once in a while.

This test is just like a doctor hitting your knee with a little rubber hammer to watch your reflects.

And considering the reaction out there, I have a hard time arguing they shouldn't be doing such experiments on us. Because look how some of us treat the data. It gives us honest amateur geeks a bad name.

I was trying to find a hole in my hypothesis. I tried to think of any reason that would explain the false alarms which have been happening for quite some time now. Maybe somebody is at home and trying to fix the obvious problems with this map. It doesn't show small ones. Even after they said they would. And it shows phantom quakes. I'm always hoping they fix the damned thing because I don't rely on it. Until after the quakes have been reviewed.

Well this ought to prove something about this thread as well. At least we try our best to check and recheck and then check with each other. Usually our consenus is basically reliable. How's that for a garantee.

Today the only thing I'm trying to disipher is whether or not there's blasts from the mine again. Working on a Saturday. Need all that fossil fuel. Can't rest.

Originally posted by Robin Marks
reply to post by new_here

 

This is the Yellowstone thread because there is a group of us who watch the quakes at the park and we are usually on top of the activity.
It's all about controlling the message.

600 some pages???
Yes, that is controlling, isn't it.

www.seis.utah.edu...

look whats on there now

reply to post by berkeleygal


Can you explain? I'm just starting to learn how to read these and its getting frustrating...I don't know how you guys do it!

reply to post by berkeleygal


Since it does not appear on any of the recorders around it I guess it is either something very local or not of earthquake origins.

Edit: OK, I downloaded the waveform for the ENZ channel as that is the only one I can get.

Herd of buffalo? Definitely NOT an earthquake.(Listen)

reply to post by PuterMan


wow, that was spooky.

must have been a BIG herd of buffaloos

It sounds like something rushing through something very fast. Perhaps a river of magma. It does sound weird and I doubt any buffalo could create a tremor like that. It sounds very hollow and midway through a kind of high pitch tone sorts of develop. Like a drill or something.

Yup its a quake I listened with some relly good headphones. I could here the rumbling clearly. But there was also a windy kind of thrill in the background, a sort of howling.

Originally posted by shikori
It sounds like something rushing through something very fast. Perhaps a river of magma. It does sound weird and I doubt any buffalo could create a tremor like that. It sounds very hollow and midway through a kind of high pitch tone sorts of develop. Like a drill or something.

Yup its a quake I listened with some relly good headphones. I could here the rumbling clearly. But there was also a windy kind of thrill in the background, a sort of howling.

edit on 6-2-2011 by shikori because: added a little

That reminds me of the BBC Docu-Movie of Yellowstone where an Earthquake created a Pocket where Magma is rushing in. Sort of a smaller,second Chamber besides/above the Main one.

YMR is always noisy. I argued with Old Farmer about snow plows last winter. Most of the stuff YMR picks up is vehicles. There is a maintenance bulding near by.

Originally posted by Violater1

Originally posted by Robin Marks
reply to post by new_here

 

This is the Yellowstone thread because there is a group of us who watch the quakes at the park and we are usually on top of the activity.
It's all about controlling the message.

600 some pages???
Yes, that is controlling, isn't it.

If you a contolled message, here's the YVO website....

volcanoes.usgs.gov...

reply to post by Robin Marks

than they did an terrible job to place YMR near an facility...... really?????

the YMR 18.00 UTC lines are corresponding with some other stations

reply to post by PuterMan

Hehehe. Now I really wonder about those seismos in the park. M3.4 at a depth of 12.4 km made by "herd of buffaloes ".

Still I wonder..... The quake are not off the Last Earthquake on the USG site.

Preliminary Earthquake
Report Magnitude 3.4
YELLOWSTONE NAT. PARK, WYOMING
2011 February 05 08:59:35 UTC

Magnitude 3.4
Date-Time 2011 02 05 08:59:35 UTC

Location 44.55N 110.92W Depth 12.4 kilometers
Region YELLOWSTONE NAT. PARK, WYOMING
Distances 15 km (10 miles) NW of Old Faithful, Wyoming
20 km (10 miles) SE of West Yellowstone, Montana
105 km (65 miles) NE of Rexburg, Idaho
625 km (390 miles) NW of CHEYENNE, Wyoming

Location Quality
Error estimate: horizontal +/- 0.6 km; depth fixed by location program
Location Quality Parameters Nst=6, Nph=6, Dmin=29 km, Rmss=0.07 sec, Gp=140.4 degrees

Source University of Utah Seismograph Stations Event ID uu00005626

Here ya go....before they are erased.

MAP 1.6 2011/02/07 07:32:06 44.667 -110.528 17.5 44 km ( 27 mi) SSE of Gardiner, MT
MAP 1.6 2011/02/07 06:33:08 44.549 -110.679 1.0 36 km ( 22 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
MAP 1.6 2011/02/07 05:33:15 44.670 -110.562 22.4 42 km ( 26 mi) SSE of Gardiner, MT

Note they are all the same mag, almost exactly one hour apart? Interesting.....

SOURCE

reply to post by westcoast


I noticed that too! The times are weird.

And they are still listed.

Maybe the weather is affecting the computer. Wait. The computer which analyses the quakes isn't in the park. It's getting the data from the siesmic stations. The same information which is sent to the webisites that display the webicorders, and the other squiggly lined thingys.

I'm rarely on both sides of an issue. One minute I think we're being played, then I think there is a reasonble explaination. I've written to the YVO and complained about the most recent map. In the past they never showed the computer generated quakes under 2.5 magnitude. Their reason had to do with the fact they didn't want unreviewed quakes being posted. But the 2.5 + were being posted.

The YVO said that they were now going to post the smaller ones immediately. That really never happened. Oh, there have been many small quakes posted, but they have always been phantom signals. Here's the funny part, the actual recognized quakes- don't show up immediately. So the computer shows quakes that are not real, and doesn't show the small quakes that are real. Go figure. What's the point if it always gets it wrong. It's not sometimes faulty like the YVO was suggesting, it's faulty all the time. I think I've seen it correct maybe- thrice.

Maybe it's just a crappy program. If that's the case, then stop, because what's the point of use something that rarely works.

If this is a test to see how the blogs and the media react, then it's a success. Because when you watch the watchers, you realize they all had knee-jerk reactions and they didn't have their facts straight. I'm the king of knew-jerk reactions, but I always follow up, check and recheck facts, and then I'll retract if I'm wrong.

That's not happening with these lastest bunch of quakes. The bloggers jumped up and down and posted the map with the RED squares showing Yellowstone's shaking. But they weren't the only ones.

Ready. The AP, the Associated Press ran with the story. Yup. They put the quakes on the wire. If you understand the media, you know that news outlets pay services such as Rueters and AP for stories. Because they are supposed to source and check their stories. So you pay for the information because you think it's good. Well, one news outlet has paid for a faulty service. I'll post the story. It's brief and doesn't editorialize, but it's supposed to be fact. And it's not.

If- if this has been a test then I sympathize with the powers that be. I don't agree and it pisses me off- but I understand. The state of journalism is abysmal. Forget why this was a test, this proves that reporting is now centralized and decentrailzed, and the conflict is schizophrenic. Like me. If nothing else, I have learned that our media and our governments, are all smoke and mirrors. Not to decieve necessarily, but to have the appearance of control, to have a shining, gleaming facade. Doesn't mean the movie's any good, but the hype and promotion, really brings in the audience.

For example, I was fooled by the movies and documentaries about Yellowstone. I knew there was no 3-D super futuristic model of the caldera in the front office at the Park. But I thought there were scientists at the park, constantly taking measurements and watching the systems. Nope. The only people watching with there bare peepers are the Park Rangers. (interesting story behind the Rangers- research it). The scientists are scattered around the USA, and they just read the data same as you and me. On their computers. These misconceptions had me believe they had a state of the art siesmic system and there was constant obsveration at the park.

Nope. There is a group of ameuter watchers at the Park. They call themselves Geyser Gazers. There's more of them than scientists at the part at any given time.

The equipment at Yellowstone is old. George Bush was not a big fan of science, so he didn't put any money into the park. But he let in the snow machines. And handguns I think. The YVO has gotten some money recently, but it's any one's guess where that will end up.

I'll let you draw your own conclusions. But know that you don't know the whole story.

What's happening at Yellowstone?

Well, it's been a really bad winter. And there's been a couple over the last few years. A large group of bison fled the park. They've gone on to private lands and come in contact with other animals which have a disease. I'll post the story, they are going to slaughter them.

AP wire story,

www.gillettenewsrecord.com...

Bison on Death Row,

www.tinygreenbubble.com...

A herd of buffalos can really rumble the ground. I remember feeling the ground shake in Nevada when a herd of wild horses ran close by me in the desert. Could the ground shaking from the buffalos cause an earthquake?


Thanks for all the great info - the instruments are very sensitive - you guys are great on analysis.