Whats going on at yellowstone?

reply to post by PuterMan

who in the heck is Hunter S Thompson.

gasp! you don't know of him? Go to the library and take out some of his books.

"Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas: A Savage Journey to the Heart of the American Dream"
is a great book and he has many others.

reply to post by Robin Marks
Maybe no need to panic yet as you say.

I do on the other hand notice that scientists have uncovered evidence that the protective magnetic shield around the Earth could be fading. Now that would make me nervous because that would expose the planet to the relentless blast of charged particles from space with unpredictable consequences for the atmosphere, earth's core and in my opinion, also Yellowstone.

The earth's magnetic field strength was measured by Carl Friedrich Gauss in 1835 and has been repeatedly measured since then, showing an exponential decay with a half-life of about 1400 years. This could also be stated as a relative decay of about 10% to 15% over the last 150 years.

Anyway, there has been a general decrease in the strength over the past century. In most places, typically ten percent or so. Well, no one can say with any certainty whether this represents a fluctuation or whether it is a decrease which will eventually lead to, lets say a reversal, but archaeological measurements show that the field was 40% stronger in AD 1000 than today

I have data gathered by the Ørsted satellite’s very precise measurements of the Earth’s magnetic field over the past nine years. It shows surprisingly rapid changes in the movements of the liquid metal deep inside the Earths core which is the reason for the Earth’s magnetic field. This is also confirmed by scientists from DTU (Technical University of Denmark) Space.

B.D.W.
A new Danish observatory on a remote island in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean will provide researchers with new knowledge about the mysterious irregularity of the Earth’s magnetic field known as the South Atlantic Anomaly. The observatory is a partnership between DMI, the Danish Meteorological Institute, and DTU Space, the Danish National Space Institute.

Maybe you would be interested in knowing more about the South Atlantic Anomaly, a large area where the earth's magnetic field has dipped drastically. You find it here at South Atlantic Anomaly

So, could this affect Yellowstone?

Damn!! We have gone 650 pages and I am still following it all even if I don't have much to contribute. Robin, I hope you have forgiven me by now for saying that Hudson's Bay was really just a big sink hole.

reply to post by Roald

It shows surprisingly rapid changes in the movements of the liquid metal deep inside the Earths core which is the reason for the Earth’s magnetic field.

I have responded to you in the Geophysics thread as it is rather off topic but very relevant to that thread,

Originally posted by Old Farmer
Damn!! We have gone 650 pages and I am still following it all even if I don't have much to contribute. Robin, I hope you have forgiven me by now for saying that Hudson's Bay was really just a big sink hole.

My problem with you had nothing to do with my hypothesis on Hudson Bay. You can disagree with my ideas all you want and I wouldn't be upset.

The issue was snowplows. And you made it personal with an insult. And I proved my point with a document from park workers that they had indeed been plowing in the park during the time in question.

Forgiveness. Hell, I forgive you. Even though you never said sorry, nor admitted you were wrong. Life's to short to hold grudges.

At about 19:00 UTC, and 20:00 UTC, there's some squiggly lines. Am I looking at earthquakes or mining blasts. Or both.

Forget the chart.

quake.utah.edu...

reply to post by Robin Marks


I'm looking at the one at 12:30

Originally posted by berkeleygal
reply to post by PuterMan

 

who in the heck is Hunter S Thompson.

gasp! you don't know of him? Go to the library and take out some of his books.

"Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas: A Savage Journey to the Heart of the American Dream"
is a great book and he has many others.

Or watch the movie with J Depp, like everybody else :p

reply to post by Robin Marks


Weird coincidence. My better half was rattling on a few minutes ago about "Oh no these are some squiggly lines and one is 1mm bigger than the others" and other such technical stuff as we were 'discussing' earthquakes. I open ATS and what do i see? Robin talking about squiggly lines!

Nice chart that by the way some excellent clear little local bumps - and the odd squiggly line of course.

Oh, forgot to add: Squiggly line chart for mines PDF file

reply to post by PuterMan


As SWMBO has just said "Ah, you have been turning squiggly lines into thunder again!"

Here are two sounds off that trace. The first is actually the second on the trace because I was working backwards.



The first sound is odd. It does not look like a mine blast exactly but I cannot match it to any earthquakes. I was looking at the Banda Sea as a possibility but it is too late for that and I think that one is way too small, although this signature is very quiet.. It certainly has the long drawn out distant quake signature but it sounds very hollow. That is why I put the other sound there which definitely has the signature of a local quake. They both have the characteristic p-wave/s-wave double bump so it probably is a quake. It just sounds odd.

reply to post by PuterMan


The second sound is most definately a local quake. The reason I suspect the other one to be mining is that it seems to me, squiggly lines- that's what they are to me, fade quickly as you travel east toward the west. I get the squiggly lines, it's just that I am in no way a techi. I love and appreciate your willingness to make the squiggly lines real for those like myself. I can locate quakes around the world using only the webicorders at Yellowstone. I half keep an eye on Arkansas. But they freak me out. Have a look at them and tell me if any of the weird stuff is significant.

Is it just that the webicorders are more sensitive in the east of the park?
Shirakawa first pointed them out and I try to track them so I can distinguish them from real quakes.
Where the heck did he go?

I got people picking at my brains again. I told a lady my story about predicting the big swarm. Told her I corrected the YVO. I love the look on people's faces when I try to explain. I get along with people whose first language is not english. I understand. Because even though I'm fairly fluent, I have the damnest time getting my ideas past that mystified expression I always get.

Puterman, one day they'll get it. Even you'll see how the inudation of a volcano can be a very big thing. I predict, that one night after a dream, you'll witness something wierd that makes it all click. Some freak of nature. Some freak like me.

reply to post by ressiv

Hi Ressiv,

forgive my delay of a few days in responding -- but then, as you replied to something I posted in March of 2010 I hope you won't mind.

Yes, I'm aware of that quatrain. I've read a suggestion that it relates to New York City, but because NYC is not located at 45 deg latitude and so they can't link it better on that score, they opine that the "45 degrees" was the angle at which the incoming whatever-it-is was to be first sighted. That doesn't great deal of sense to me (or to put it another way, it simply seems a bit thin as an argument), whereas a latitude figure of 45 degrees seems more reasonable as an interpretation.

However, I wouldn't say that Yellowstone has to be the point of reference at 45 degrees latitude (if that is the meaning of that phrase). If we could figure out which city (if any) would fit the "New City" reference then that might help to narrow things down a bit.

Okay, I must get back to catching up on this thread.

EDIT to add: thinking about it more, there is also no particular reason why a reference to "45 degrees" has to relate to latitude any more than it might connect to longitude. So, if there is a major city with a name that includes "New" that is located at or near 45 deg longitude, it might be relevant. (All this is assuming that the writings of Nostradamus have any relevance, and also that "45 degrees" in any way refers to a coordinate measurement.)

There's also no reason to assume that this quatrain has to relate to the US, or even a "western" country, and further, that the name of the city needs to be in English.

For example, consider the city of Nizhny Novgorod in Russia. Formerly known as Gorky, it's located at 56° 20′ N, 44° 0′ E (pretty close to 45° longitude), and being the fourth-largest city in Russia it certainly counts as "great". And further, its name translates as "Lower New Town" (or "city"). So, we've got a possible candidate there.

In fact, there is actually a city in Russia called Veliky Novgorod -- Great New Town (or City) -- which matches exactly with the quatrain.

In summary, I doubt that we can assign this quatrain to Yellowstone. Rather, it seems that there are other locations that are likely candidates for it.

Regards,

Mike

"new city" could refer to the "new world" that America has been known as. it is Def. not a new world looking at it as Nostradamus did from the outside it is only one continent among many on this earth, seeing the US as only a city seems plausible.

Date/Time UTC,Latitude,Longitude,Magnitude,Depth(Km),Location
2011-02-04T21:12:21.000Z,44.57080,-110.71680,2.0000,11.4000,Yellowstone National Park. Wyoming
2011-02-04T21:13:10.000Z,44.78410,-111.01760,2.6000,0.9000,Yellowstone National Park. Wyoming

Couple of bigger bumps!

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/a7841a658c37.png[/atsimg]

Edit: I can't see these on any of the seismos. I think they are going to get deleted as errors.



Edit some more: They went. They were errors.

reply to post by PuterMan


Do you remember when the YVO said it would post the smaller quakes that were computer generated?

Well ever since then, the recent map doesn't post small quakes immediately. And when it does show quakes immediately, it's been by mistake.

Or am I wrong?

reply to post by -W1LL


Being correct though, the newest city in the world would be Astana, Kazakhstan, and the newest city in America would be Dunwoody GA, incorporated as a city on December 1, 2008.

Magnitude 2.7 - YELLOWSTONE NATIONAL PARK, WYOMING
2011 February 05 08:49:37 UTC

Magnitude 2.7
Date-Time

* Saturday, February 05, 2011 at 08:49:37 UTC
* Saturday, February 05, 2011 at 01:49:37 AM at epicenter

Location 44.705°N, 110.536°W
Depth 20.9 km (13.0 miles)
Region YELLOWSTONE NATIONAL PARK, WYOMING
Distances

* 39 km (24 miles) SSE (159°) from Gardiner, MT
* 45 km (28 miles) E (84°) from West Yellowstone, MT
* 59 km (36 miles) SW (234°) from Cooke City-Silver Gate, MT
* 453 km (282 miles) NNE (14°) from Salt Lake City, UT

Location Uncertainty horizontal +/- 4 km (2.5 miles); depth +/- 14.7 km (9.1 miles)
Parameters NST= 11, Nph= 11, Dmin=30 km, Rmss=0.73 sec, Gp=130°,
M-type=duration magnitude (Md), Version=0
Source

* University of Utah Seismograph Stations

Event ID uu00005625

Magnitude
3.4
Date-Time
Saturday, February 05, 2011 at 08:59:35 UTC
Saturday, February 05, 2011 at 01:59:35 AM at epicenter
Location
44.552°N, 110.922°W
Depth
12.4 km (7.7 miles)
Region
YELLOWSTONE NATIONAL PARK, WYOMING
Distances
19 km (12 miles) SE (130°) from West Yellowstone, MT
34 km (21 miles) E (80°) from Island Park, ID
56 km (35 miles) SSW (197°) from Gardiner, MT
430 km (267 miles) N (10°) from Salt Lake City, UT
Location Uncertainty
horizontal +/- 0.6 km (0.4 miles); depth +/- 6.1 km (3.8 miles)
Parameters
NST= 6, Nph= 6, Dmin=29 km, Rmss=0.07 sec, Gp=140°,
M-type=duration magnitude (Md), Version=0
Source
University of Utah Seismograph Stations
Event ID
uu00005626

EDIT: Removed my data for the 3.4 quake because BerkeleyGal beat me to it!

Dern it, BG, don't you ever sleep?



Anyway, looks like it's getting quite busy there. No cause for any real concern but interesting all the same.

Mike

Interesting even so they are 35km (21.7 miles) apart and quite deep. So we have reach 7 quakes above M1.0 since February 1st?

MAP 3.4 2011/02/05 08:59:35 44.552 -110.922 12.4 19 km ( 12 mi) SE of West Yellowstone, MT
MAP 2.7 2011/02/05 08:49:37 44.705 -110.536 20.9 39 km ( 25 mi) SSE of Gardiner, MT
MAP 1.0 2011/02/03 12:26:57 44.575 -110.361 2.0 58 km ( 36 mi) SSE of Gardiner, MT
MAP 1.0 2011/02/01 16:12:59 44.476 -110.583 1.6 46 km ( 29 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
MAP 1.5 2011/02/01 09:28:53 44.311 -110.992 7.0 34 km ( 21 mi) NE of Warm River, ID
MAP 1.3 2011/02/01 05:27:47 44.311 -110.998 6.6 34 km ( 21 mi) NE of Warm River, ID
MAP 1.4 2011/02/01 04:22:06 44.793 -111.406 10.1 28 km ( 17 mi) WNW of West Yellowstone, MT