Whats going on at yellowstone?

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what the hell is that !? whats going on in parker peak??

reply to post by Austria


Is this the same noise reflected on Madison River trace?

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It IS interesting....been seeing this for a bit now. I'm thinking there must be something local near it causing this....perhaps some construction or something? I don't see it showing distinctly on any other stations.

Anyone else?????

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All looks normal to me at the moment! Must have been some local noise.

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125 mV - very sensitive.

Looks like wind to me. Waaay too many pickles probably!

Forgot to add, that station is in amongst trees.

YMR.WY..HHZ.2010.189

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[edit on 8/7/2010 by PuterMan]

I think we do a mistake if we just look at Yellowstone as a "closed" area. Meaning that we just look for events inside or close to the caldera itself. I strongly believe that Yellowstone is a part of a bigger "system". Lets just look at fault lines and the effect that can be measured at Yellowstone when we have distant but strong quakes.

I think we already can see that something are building up there again. And I base that conclusion on my belief that Yellowstone indeed is a part of a bigger system.

So, I closely follow a "string" of quakes from California through Nevada and Utah up to Southern Idaho. And from Yellowstone north through Western Montana.

Tectonic? Yes, most likely. Small? Sure, biggest was M2,4 in western Montana.

M 2.4, western Montana Date: Tuesday, July 6, 2010 11:08:58 UTC Tuesday, July 6, 2010 05:08:58 AM at epicenter Depth: 7.30 km (4.54 mi)

and

M 2.4, western Montana Date: Friday, July 9, 2010 03:40:20 UTC Thursday, July 8, 2010 09:40:20 PM at epicenter Depth: 18.30 km (11.37 mi)

But the quakes are still important enough for Yellowstone's future and should be take in to the equation. Might be interesting to follow the North going fault line and see where we end up.

Still some shaking going on. As far as I can see, this is the latest events.

M1.0 2010/07/16 01:14:12 44.558 -110.361 0.7 60 km ( 37 mi) SSE of Gardiner, MT
M1.4 2010/07/12 22:49:39 44.553 -110.945 11.5 18 km ( 11 mi) SE of West Yellowstone, MT
M1.0 2010/07/11 20:26:18 44.631 -110.129 0.4 45 km ( 28 mi) SSW of Cooke City-Silver Gate, MT
M1.3 2010/07/11 20:20:51 44.627 -110.103 2.3 45 km ( 28 mi) SSW of Cooke City-Silver Gate, MT
M1.0 2010/07/11 09:46:25 44.627 -110.344 2.2 54 km ( 34 mi) SW of Cooke City-Silver Gate, MT
M1.1 2010/07/11 07:27:21 44.821 -110.759 5.1 24 km ( 15 mi) S of Gardiner, MT
M1.4 2010/07/11 07:25:45 44.821 -110.758 5.4 24 km ( 15 mi) S of Gardiner, MT

I just edit this post to update the list with quakes from 10/07/01 up to today 10/07/18 to get a view over the activity there so far this month.

10/07/01 14:29:52 44.77N 111.18W 7.7 1.6 8.3 mi NW of W. Yellowstone
10/07/01 14:47:08 44.77N 111.18W 7.1 0.6 8.2 mi NW of W. Yellowstone
10/07/01 18:08:32 44.76N 111.18W 8.0 0.2 7.7 mi NW of W. Yellowstone
10/07/01 22:41:26 44.40N 110.37W 2.8 0.6 10.1 mi E of West Thumb
10/07/01 22:57:28 44.39N 110.37W 5.5 1.3 10.5 mi E of West Thumb
10/07/01 22:59:24 44.40N 110.37W 3.0 0.7 10.1 mi E of West Thumb
10/07/01 22:59:32 44.40N 110.37W 3.3 0.7 10.3 mi E of West Thumb
10/07/01 23:01:22 44.40N 110.37W 5.1 1.0 10.1 mi E of West Thumb
10/07/02 02:34:37 44.58N 111.11W 11.2 1.7 5.8 mi S of W. Yellowstone
10/07/02 05:45:26 44.76N 111.18W 7.6 0.6 7.9 mi NW of W. Yellowstone
10/07/02 19:30:31 44.46N 110.93W 7.8 1.0 4.9 mi WSW of Old Faithful
10/07/04 03:34:04 44.23N 110.77W 5.2 1.2 16.2 mi SSW of West Thumb
10/07/04 03:35:46 44.24N 110.82W 0.9 0.9 15.5 mi SSE of Old Faithful
10/07/04 03:35:46 44.24N 110.82W 1.8 1.1 15.0 mi SSE of Old Faithful
10/07/04 05:08:50 44.24N 110.80W 2.0 0.9 15.3 mi SSE of Old Faithful
10/07/05 04:59:01 44.76N 111.07W 8.2 0.9 6.9 mi N of W. Yellowstone
10/07/05 05:00:34 44.88N 111.43W 15.1 1.4 22.1 mi WNW of W. Yellowstone
10/07/06 07:51:13 44.56N 110.95W 11.6 1.0 7.3 mi SSW of Madison Junc.
10/07/07 02:43:30 44.63N 111.03W 8.0 0.4 4.1 mi ESE of W. Yellowstone
10/07/08 05:47:04 44.24N 110.79W 0.6 0.7 15.6 mi SSE of Old Faithful
10/07/09 11:21:25 44.84N 110.98W 4.5 0.5 13.7 mi NNE of W. Yellowstone
10/07/09 12:03:47 44.55N 110.95W 10.9 0.6 7.8 mi SSW of Madison Junc.
10/07/09 17:18:08 44.56N 110.95W 11.6 0.8 7.3 mi SSW of Madison Junc.
10/07/10 13:32:21 44.56N 110.95W 11.4 0.3 7.4 mi SSW of Madison Junc.
10/07/11 07:25:45 44.82N 110.76W 5.4 1.4 6.8 mi NW of Norris Junc.
10/07/11 07:27:21 44.82N 110.76W 5.1 1.1 6.9 mi NW of Norris Junc.
10/07/11 09:46:25 44.63N 110.34W 2.2 1.0 4.6 mi N of Fishing Bridge
10/07/11 15:56:05 44.57N 110.95W 11.7 0.4 7.3 mi SSW of Madison Junc.
10/07/11 20:20:51 44.63N 110.10W 2.3 1.3 14.2 mi ENE of Fishing Bridge
10/07/11 20:21:23 44.64N 110.12W 7.4 0.7 13.6 mi NE of Fishing Bridge
10/07/11 20:26:18 44.63N 110.13W 0.4 0.9 13.0 mi ENE of Fishing Bridge
10/07/11 23:36:37 44.54N 110.96W 12.8 0.3 8.5 mi WNW of Old Faithful
10/07/11 23:54:05 44.81N 110.76W 2.0 0.9 6.3 mi NW of Norris Junc.
10/07/12 04:44:05 44.56N 110.95W 11.5 0.7 7.7 mi SSW of Madison Junc.
10/07/12 22:49:39 44.55N 110.95W 11.5 1.4 7.7 mi SSW of Madison Junc.
10/07/13 01:12:08 44.56N 110.95W 12.2 0.8 7.4 mi SSW of Madison Junc.
10/07/13 04:39:45 44.57N 110.97W 8.8 0.4 7.7 mi SSW of Madison Junc.
10/07/13 11:13:39 44.57N 110.75W 2.4 0.3 7.6 mi ESE of Madison Junc.
10/07/14 11:21:47 44.58N 110.52W 2.1 0.5 7.2 mi W of Fishing Bridge
10/07/14 16:31:41 44.25N 110.79W 1.8 0.6 14.4 mi SSE of Old Faithful
10/07/14 18:29:34 44.55N 110.94W 11.7 0.8 7.6 mi SSW of Madison Junc.
10/07/15 04:14:40 44.52N 111.19W 13.3 0.5 10.6 mi SSW of W. Yellowstone
10/07/15 07:09:27 44.61N 111.12W 11.0 0.6 3.7 mi S of W. Yellowstone
10/07/16 01:14:12 44.56N 110.36W 0.7 1.0 0.9 mi ESE of Fishing Bridge

Not quite silent there.

[edit on 17/7/2010 by Roald]

Latest update:

0.3 2010/07/21 01:34:34 44.734N 111.168W 10.6 9 km ( 6 mi) NNW of West Yellowstone, MT

1.3 2010/07/18 17:07:33 44.071N 110.716W 5.5 41 km (26 mi) NNE of Alta, WY

0.7 2010/07/18 11:57:48 44.577N 110.749W 7.5 30 km (19 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT

0.4 2010/07/18 00:57:58 44.466N 110.992W 1.8 24 km (15 mi) SSE of West Yellowstone, MT

0.8 2010/07/17 19:15:51 44.563N 110.727W 8.6 32 km (20 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT

0.7 2010/07/17 17:35:57 44.620N 111.107W 10.1 5 km ( 3 mi) S of West Yellowstone, MT

So LKWY is showing a little action: HERE

It is showing up slightly on a couple of other low-res stations. I know its been a little wacked ever since it came back on line, but those are looking like little quakes. Or am I wrong???

Damn I'm good. To understand what I say now, you must understand my prior observations about the moon. That being said, I know I'm right, damned right.

I've been noticing that there has been a slight increase in earthquakes in the world generally. It has been relatively quiet after the notable quakes earlier in the year. And let's not forget the second largest swarm on record at Yellowstone. Yellowstone has been doing normal business which was to be expected after a release of pressure. You may remember I said that I couldn't predict another swarm because it was a unique alignment which won't occur again for several years. An alignment which was occuring during both notable swarms since the Lake swarm starting on Boxing Day 2008. But I did say there may be a swarm during the New Moon in August. Nothing much. Just some sloshing around of liquids. I still stand by that. Back to the earthquakes around the world. Nothing much. But I seemed to noticed it as we were at our furthest point from the sun which occured on July 4. But this has more to do with the moon than it does with current earthquakes. It's all about the moon.

I have written here that I believe the moon was formed by volcanoes on earth. The prevailing theory is that the earth experienced a collision with a smaller planet early in the formation of our solar system. I'm sure you've all heard of it so I won't elaborate. My hypothesis is the a mega eruption ejected material into orbit which collected until it was one body. But the experts would beg to differ with me. There are correct that the moon is or an earthly origin. So there I agree. But it was not as a result of a collision.

Tonight's full moon is spectacular. Especially considering it's a warm clear summer night. Unlike the winter nights here in Canada. Tonight I got to stand and stare and lose myself in it. I'm not into meditation. Many people have suggested to help with my troubled mind. I've tried it countless times. It never works. But tonight I thought I'd try again because there was a perfect object on which to focus my gaze. The moon just hung there and I was amazed by the brightness thinking it was light that was bouncing to reach me. I pondered this and that and then focused. My center of attention was fixed on the round white, softly shining object above a beautiful riverfront horizon. I tried to have an out of body experience and drift toward it. But I couldn't. The shadows from the crater were distracting me. I triend to make them spin so the moon could pulled me in but those damn spots keep taking my attention away from my task. Why the hell couldn't it be solid white. No those stupid shadows had to ruin the view. I tried to think postively and thought about seeing it as the face of the man on the moon. Or Jackie Gleason. Hey I see Jackie Gleason. I tried to get passed it. Why the hell couldn't the moon be spinning. That's right I thought to myself, the moon has a darkside so we always see just the same image time and time again. Then it hit me. I'm right. Damned, damned, damned damned right. Why isn't it spinning? It should be spinning. If there was a collision between two planets and it is as the astronomers say, and the hit at a glancing blow, this would produce spin.

My hypothesis is that the material collected over time. Just hanging there. Not spinning. It's elementary. If there was a collision, and even if the small planet was nearly obliterated, there would be a spinning debris field. Which then would have pulled the material in as it spun around the earth.

Sorry I just thought about a counter argument against my own hypothesis. I just wanted to write down this observation while it was still fresh. I must read up on other moons in our solar system and find out about their rotations.

So watch for activity as we come upon the new moon. It won't be much I think. For now enjoy the full moon and forgive my lunacy. Enjoy the moon which is hanging above your neck of the woods. Look me up on Google earth. I'm in Kenora Ontario Canada. On a little river on the edge of a big wood.

Sorry for the interpution of your daily lives. Continue on.

Check out new thread Yellowstoners:

No Earthquakes in Yellowstone region for the last seven days
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Thought it strange noone has mentioned it on this thread.

What's happening guys?

reply to post by berkeleygal


Here is the small list for the past week.

0.3 2010/07/21 01:34:34 44.734N 111.168W 10.6 9 km ( 6 mi) NNW of West Yellowstone, MT
0.3 2010/07/20 01:15:28 44.608N 110.352W 11.7 56 km (34 mi) SSE of Gardiner, MT

Yes, odd that there has not been any more rumbling. IMO - we should expect something larger very soon. Alaska has been quite active and then, followed by the 3 7's way deep in the mantel in the philippines, I think the earth is about to give and Yellowstone is high on the list of places to look out for.

here is my thoughts on this; one: calm before the storm, two: HAARP related. three: has something to do with UBV-76 four :BP did it, in today's world with all the dark projects, i do not nor will not disregard anything, for they are all plausible, and possible, now for the real thought: calm before the storm; If we go back to MT saint helens, there was a time of inactivity, before the big one, it has been odd that one can not find real time reports on the caldera, if some one has a link please post it, swelling would be of grate imports to the main eruption, how big depends on ground rise , this is not a burst type eruption, rather, a cave in, think of it as a suflay, if is untouched as it rises it will stay, if it is disturbed, then it will collapse, but with this collapse, there will be a great explosion, when could happen? Now, as i type this, any were to go????? keep looking.

i for one am not worried!


if its 2 month with no quakes then maybe a little worry but a week, shes gone a week without quakes before , ....

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Yes I fully believe we are going through the calm before the storm, but I don't think Yellowstone is involved in it. We have no uplift in the lake area - as matter of fact we have subsidence as you can see Here and Here. Yellowstone while high on the places to watch with the seismic unrest of the earth at the moment - is not the place I am most concerned with. But - that could change at any moment as mother earth does her own thing. And, yes yellowstone does go through days without seismic activity.

reply to post by Robin Marks
I think you'll find that the moon does actually spin. If it didn't, we wouldn't see the same side at all times. The moon is what's known as "tidally locked" to the earth; that is, over the millennia, the earth pulled more at some parts of the moon and less at other parts, depending on their density and mass. This either sped up or slowed down its rotation until it reached equilibrium; the moon's center of mass is now aligned perfectly with a line connecting it to earth, making its day and its year precisely the same length. Sure, it took tens of millions of years, but nature is patient. I guess she just wanted to make us wonder about it.

This means, of course, that rocks are just as susceptible to tides as water is, both here and on the moon; the effects just aren't as dramatic. It couldn't fail to affect plate tectonics in some recognizable pattern. Small amplitude at first perhaps, but over time, ... remember the Tacoma Narrows Bridge. So you're probably right about partially-lunar quake causality. It does have some effect. It will make a difference, that one slight extra bit of force that pushes a fault over the edge. And the more tangential the force is to a point on the earth, the more it can shift things sideways at that point. So beware when the moon is on the horizon...

I heard recently, on a moderately-related note, that if we'd never had a moon, all of earth's water would be forced towards the poles (since it's a spinning oblate spheroid), resulting in a total lack of weather or seasonal changes, meaning the equatorial land belt would be arid, uninhabitable desert, and only the highest, uninhabitable mountain peaks would be visible. But there was a bright side; apparently Kansas would be an island on that world, the only flat land poking up out of the sea that people could live on. Imagine everyone jammed into Kansas. Terrifying.

Fourth line.

I commented on the other thread, but there has been some (very very small) activity today, a tiny event at YMC just before 9:16 mountain time and an even smaller cluster near YLT between 8:50 and 8:55 mountain time.

Probably not even 1.x, so we won't see them noted for a while and then just on the UofU list. I don't think anything of note is going on. Long Valley has been much more interesting over the course of the past couple of weeks.

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I'm always the first to admit I'm wrong. And you are right. The moon does have a rotation. It takes 28 days. The earth takes 24 hours. The moon's rotation is about 10 miles an hour. And the earth's is 1000 miles an hour.

I suppose I was arguing the moon should be spinning much faster if it was caused by an impact. And I think that an impact would cause it to form further away from earth, considering the energies and velocities involved.

Don't worry I'll be brief. I'm not the first to think the moon originated of the earth. "In 1898, George Howard Darwin made an early suggestion that the Earth and Moon had once been one body. Darwin's hypothesis was that a molten Moon had been spun from the Earth because of centrifugal forces, and this became the dominant academic explanation. Using Newtonian mechanics, he calculated that the Moon had actually orbited much closer in the past and was drifting away from the Earth. This drifting was later confirmed by American and Soviet experiments using laser ranging targets placed on the Moon."

Mr. Darwin was on the right track. He just didn't have the mechanism that ejected the magma out into space. That process was a Mega eruption. Just like a coronal mass ejection.

"However, Darwin's calculations could not resolve the mechanics required to trace the Moon backwards to the surface of the Earth."

But that's because it WASN'T flung off the planet from centrifugal force. It was forcefully ejected farther out by the explosion. It was ejected by a Mega Eruption. There are problems with the Giant impact hypothesis. Here's just one.
"The Moon's oxygen isotopic ratios are essentially identical to those of Earth. Oxygen isotopic ratios, which can be measured very precisely, yield a unique and distinct signature for each solar system body. If Theia was a separate proto-planet, it would have likely had a different oxygen isotopic signature than Earth, as would the ejected mixed material."

Sorry sources are WIKI. Was in a rush.

There is a rotation to the moon. So I was incorrect. I was just thinking that if the moon were formed by a giant impact it would be spinning at a rate closer to 1000 miles hour rather than 10. And I was thinking that an impact that big would cause the moon to formed further out into space. As the Giant impact hypothesis states it, it seems like the smaller planet hit the earth and came to a sudden stop. This doesn't make sense to me. Think of two hockey players skating at full tilt and they collide. Not a direct hit mind you but a glancing blow. What happens? The two players spin after contact and continue in the same direction they were going.

Sorry, here's a second problem with the Giant impact hypothesis, if there was an impact of that size, we wouldn't be finding water in the rock on the moon. It would have vapourized all the water and the rock would become molten. My hypothesis allows for the earth's crust and even glaciers to be launched into outer space just like a rocket ship. This would account for the identical properities of the rocks on earth and the moon. And this would account for the water. The moon is of the earth. Solely.

The moon was formed by a giant volcanic eruption on the earth over 4 billion years ago. You heard it here first.





[edit on 27-7-2010 by Robin Marks]

[edit on 27-7-2010 by Robin Marks]

Have a look at Google earth and look at the quakes climbing north. They follow the fault line and are now close to the border between Montana and Canada.

For those who say it's quiet, here are the updates so far:

10/07/18 01:15:51 44.56N 110.73W 8.6 0.8 8.7 mi ESE of Madison Junc.
10/07/18 06:57:58 44.47N 110.99W 1.8 0.4 8.0 mi W of Old Faithful
10/07/18 17:57:47 44.58N 110.75W 7.5 0.7 7.3 mi ESE of Madison Junc.
10/07/18 23:07:33 44.07N 110.72W 5.5 1.3 24.9 mi S of West Thumb
10/07/19 08:52:50 44.58N 110.75W 7.4 1.1 7.0 mi ESE of Madison Junc.
10/07/19 08:54:26 44.58N 110.76W 6.7 1.3 6.9 mi ESE of Madison Junc.
10/07/19 09:08:02 44.58N 110.75W 5.5 0.2 7.1 mi ESE of Madison Junc.
10/07/19 09:09:21 44.58N 110.75W 6.7 1.6 6.8 mi ESE of Madison Junc.
10/07/19 09:09:35 44.58N 110.75W 5.4 1.0 7.2 mi ESE of Madison Junc.
10/07/19 09:10:59 44.57N 110.75W 7.3 0.7 7.4 mi ESE of Madison Junc.
10/07/19 09:25:48 44.58N 110.75W 5.1 0.4 7.1 mi ESE of Madison Junc.
10/07/19 09:36:19 44.58N 110.75W 8.9 0.1 7.3 mi ESE of Madison Junc.
10/07/19 09:56:42 44.58N 110.75W 5.8 0.6 7.1 mi ESE of Madison Junc.
10/07/19 09:57:41 44.58N 110.75W 5.2 0.4 7.1 mi ESE of Madison Junc.
10/07/19 10:34:48 44.58N 110.76W 7.1 0.8 7.0 mi ESE of Madison Junc.
10/07/19 12:41:14 44.61N 110.75W 4.4 0.9 6.3 mi ESE of Madison Junc.
10/07/20 07:15:28 44.61N 110.35W 11.7 0.3 3.3 mi N of Fishing Bridge
10/07/21 07:34:34 44.73N 111.17W 10.6 0.3 5.9 mi NW of W. Yellowstone
10/07/23 21:11:36 44.68N 110.46W 2.0 0.6 4.5 mi SSE of Canyon Junc.
10/07/25 18:04:55 44.62N 111.11W 9.6 0.6 2.8 mi S of W. Yellowstone
10/07/26 04:49:10 44.57N 110.96W 10.5 0.1 7.5 mi SSW of Madison Junc.
10/07/26 16:15:23 44.78N 111.11W 11.2 1.3 8.1 mi NNW of W. Yellowstone
10/07/28 05:55:53 44.73N 111.14W 10.8 0.3 5.0 mi NW of W. Yellowstone
10/07/29 05:56:27 44.78N 111.10W 11.2 0.6 8.4 mi N of W. Yellowstone

[edit on 30/7/2010 by Roald]

The latest update from YVO - Source

YELLOWSTONE VOLCANO OBSERVATORY MONTHLY UPDATE
Monday, August 2, 2010 10:57 AM MDT (Monday, August 2, 2010 16:57 UTC)


YELLOWSTONE VOLCANO (CAVW #1205-01-)
44°25'48" N 110°40'12" W, Summit Elevation 9203 ft (2805 m)
Current Volcano Alert Level: NORMAL
Current Aviation Color Code: GREEN

During the month of July 2010, 76 earthquakes were located in the Yellowstone region. The largest event was a magnitude 1.6 on July 1 at 8:34 PM MDT,
located about 6 miles south of West Yellowstone, MT. No earthquake swarms were recorded in July. Seismicity continues at background levels.

Ground Deformation Summary: On the basis of detailed analysis of the Yellowstone GPS data, the period of accelerated Yellowstone caldera uplift, beginning
in 2004, appears to have notably decreased in the last several months toward long-term background levels. Analysis of Yellowstone-wide deformation will be
reported by YVO as they are completed. A record of recent ground displacement can be found at:
pboweb.unavco.org...×eries=raw