Whats going on at yellowstone?

The quake was the largest in the Baja California and Southern California area since 1992, the USGS reported.

The '92 quake, which struck in Landers, California, triggered an earthquake the next day in Nevada and another quake 11 days later in Southern California, according to USGS seismologist Lucy Jones. Both were 5.7-magnitude quakes.

news.blogs.cnn.com...

There is still a lot to be learned about earthquake behaviors, but it is clear that there CAN BE some sort of cause-and-effect and/or non-localized propagation. I am not saying people here are necessarily right, but I don't think anyone with any sort of intelligence can outright claim zero possibility of a connection between Yellowstone and these quakes. There are just too many variables in our current understanding/technology with regards to earthquake science.

reply to post by citizenihilist


I was going to stay out of this one but I think that you need a wee bit of education possibly.

You stated

What effect did it have on Yellowstone? It showed up on the seismographs?

Of course it did, p-waves and s-waves travel around the entire globe.

I do not get the impression from your post that you are actually aware of what that means. Please allow me to direct you to this link published by the Oklahoma Geological Survey. This paper discusses the effect of the P and S waves on the structure to which the seismograph is attached. Note in particular this paragraph:

The vertical LR ground motion was about 3.8 millimeters peak-to-peak, at the
underground vault near Leonard. This allowed the OGS to calculate an MW type
magnitude of 7.8.

It might seem that if the earth's surface in Oklahoma moved up and down four
millimeters, that buildings would be damaged. There would be damage if the
movement was rapid. However, the movement was like slowly lifting the earth
over a minute or so, then lowering it as slowly. Such slow motion will not
effect anything but the detection sensor of a very broadband seismometer.

This means that ANY seismographic wave passing through a seismically sensitive zone is likely to move the earth, albeit slowly. Any movement that is out of the norm of a relatively static state could possibly have an effect and therefore the tone that I detected of possible derision is founded on insufficient knowledge on your part, if indeed that is what your statement was intended to convey. Remember also that they (Oklahoma GS) were talking about buildings in a stable area, and we are talking about ground which is already potentially unstable. It is the fact that the ground moves that makes the seismo detect. I refer you to the Basic Principles in this Wiki article

Incidentally, since I see you only joined us a couple of days ago (although I realise you have probably been lurking), anyone is welcome on this thread, as are you of course, if the discussion is civil and constructive.

Additionally, just in case you missed it, I did A-level geology at a time when A-levels meant something and whilst I have probably forgotten a lot the basics are there. That does NOT make me an expert, or a scientist, but does allow me to have an understanding to a degree of the things that I research.

Yellow Stone looks like it had a few Powerfull quakes 6. not sure what they are plus it looks like one is some kind of interference of some kind
quake.utah.edu...
Looks like it started on 04/03/2010.

good morning.. i'll missed something in my sleep...

dutch MSM speaks about an magmatic related couse...

wat vulcano was activ round 10.000 years ago in the neighberhood of baja... was it long valley???
earthquake.usgs.gov...


www.nu.nl...

translation snippet

Magma Fields

In recent days we have already seen light earthquakes take place in the area. The severe earthquake on Sunday was followed by aftershocks.

According to U.S. geologists are shallow magma fields in combination with tectonic forces caused the earthquake, U.S. media reported. About ten thousand years ago, a volcano erupting in the region.

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found it~

www.volcanolive.com...

that is some very interesting reading, thank you, I have been looking at some of the other dormant volcano 'fields' around cali and nevada, I find it arrogant that we don't really consider them to be a threat at all, they could one and all come to life again.

reply to post by space cadet


thought yellowstone speaks moore to the mind .. i'll consider long valley also a big risk...:-(

a pitty the baja eq appeard... we will not have reliable readings from helicorders of yelly....

wat is local ore distance waves... :-(



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MAP 2.9 2010/04/05 10:38:47 44.604 -110.997 6.9 YELLOWSTONE NATIONAL PARK, WYOMING

I'm not shure I should...
But all that bashing gives me bad feelings.
There is no scientific real understanding of the world.
We make models, and check those out against what we can observe. That is science. Every model has to be a simplyfication of reality, and every model has its faults.
Newtons laws are not realy what is happening, but give you a good way to make predictions. That is until you hit anything with relativistic speeds.
Now here are a lot of people and some have wild ideas. We might all have some. Together we might check those against data, we might find something new. A scientist does nothing else. I feel here we can talk and have wild ideas. Nobody is delivering here a scientific paper putting out a new geoseismic model, and back it up with data and check it against other vulcanos...

reply to post by westcoast

Looks like your gut feeling was very close. They are calling the
largest one a 2.9 as of 11:00 UTC.
www.isthisthingon.org...

Earthquake Details
Magnitude 2.9
Date-Time

* Monday, April 05, 2010 at 10:38:46 UTC
* Monday, April 05, 2010 at 04:38:46 AM at epicenter

Location 44.602°N, 110.996°W
Depth 6.9 km (4.3 miles)
Region YELLOWSTONE NATIONAL PARK, WYOMING
Distances

* 11 km (7 miles) SE (128°) from West Yellowstone, MT
* 29 km (18 miles) ENE (67°) from Island Park, ID
* 53 km (33 miles) SSW (205°) from Gardiner, MT
* 433 km (269 miles) ENE (73°) from Boise, ID
* 434 km (270 miles) N (9°) from Salt Lake City, UT

Location Uncertainty horizontal +/- 0.3 km (0.2 miles); depth +/- 3.4 km (2.1 miles)
Parameters NST= 30, Nph= 30, Dmin=8 km, Rmss=0.17 sec, Gp= 72°,
M-type=local magnitude (ML), Version=2
Source

* University of Utah Seismograph Stations

Event ID uu00002612


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this was posted 10 to 15 houers before the event...

www.youtube.com...

I heard something strange being said by the responding fire service last night on the abc7news link.

He was saying how everyone should have a earthquake pack ready for these events. And then he went on to say that they are preparing for a LAFD rehearsal on the 19th April..

Are they expecting something we're not?

There may have been debate yesterday as to whether or not Yellowstone is experiencing a swarm. There has been around 17 quakes. Which equals a swarm the YVO reportedly happened on Feb 13.

Funny. It started less than 24hours before the Baja 7.2. The quakes seem to pause around that time, and then resumed a few hours afterward.

I'm not goint to be like our hyper-critical guest who was spraying insults and aggressive personal attacks. I don't think large quakes directly affect Yellowstone. Yes, an Alaskan earthquake did change the geysers. Something else is happening. And I'm not sure what that is.

We need cut that citizen quy some slack. He out here sharpening his skills. It would appear he is going to the Middle East to help Isreal and Palenstine with their roadmap to peace. He need to practice being fierce and unyielding. I wish him my best as Citizenwhatever ushers in a new era of world peace.

not sure there is an explosion of events goiing on now... even radio amateurs are upset by a strange signal..blaming it on haarp but i think its the shuman resonance...
www.abovetopsecret.com...

anyway...keep the eyes wide open these days... even i have a strange feeling an big event is nearing...

Well, perhaps we better keep an eye on this:

mms.nps.gov...

There was a known increase in geyser activity before the big Hebgen Lake quake in 1959.

Not sure if that webcam is normal, or what....

Live streaming version here:
mms://a293.l2717654292.c27176.g.lm.akamaistream.net/D/293/27176/v0001/reflector:54292

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Originally posted by citizenihilist

Looks like someone doesn't like someone else disagreeing in a non-polite way.

Seems like things should be better now that you figured this one out.

I enjoy reading ALL the differing opinions on this thread, and I have learned a lot.

It is not that difficult to be polite.

ever seen such an long list/day ???

earthquake.usgs.gov...

We are also having a G3 Geometric Storm...
www.solarcycle24.com...
This is the biggest I have seem in a very long time. Not sure how much effect it is having but it is pretty intense.

Magnitude 3.3
Date-Time Sunday, April 04, 2010 at 03:15:52 UTC
Saturday, April 03, 2010 at 09:15:52 PM at epicenter

Location 44.599°N, 110.993°W
Depth 5.4 km (3.4 miles)
Region YELLOWSTONE NATIONAL PARK, WYOMING
Distances 11 km (7 miles) SE (128°) from West Yellowstone, MT
30 km (18 miles) ENE (68°) from Island Park, ID
53 km (33 miles) SSW (204°) from Gardiner, MT
433 km (269 miles) ENE (74°) from Boise, ID
434 km (270 miles) N (9°) from Salt Lake City, UT

Location Uncertainty horizontal +/- 0.3 km (0.2 miles); depth +/- 0.8 km (0.5 miles)
Parameters Nph= 30, Dmin=8.1 km, Rmss=0.13 sec, Gp= 72°,
M-type=local magnitude (ML), Version=2
Source University of Utah Seismograph Stations

Event ID uu04040315

Magnitude 2.9
Date-Time Monday, April 05, 2010 at 14:48:01 UTC
Monday, April 05, 2010 at 08:48:01 AM at epicenter

Location 44.601°N, 110.989°W
Depth 4.5 km (2.8 miles)
Region YELLOWSTONE NATIONAL PARK, WYOMING
Distances 11 km (7 miles) SE (127°) from West Yellowstone, MT
30 km (19 miles) ENE (68°) from Island Park, ID
53 km (33 miles) SSW (204°) from Gardiner, MT
433 km (269 miles) ENE (74°) from Boise, ID
434 km (270 miles) N (9°) from Salt Lake City, UT

Location Uncertainty horizontal +/- 0.3 km (0.2 miles); depth +/- 1.1 km (0.7 miles)
Parameters NST= 37, Nph= 37, Dmin=8 km, Rmss=0.24 sec, Gp= 40°,
M-type=local magnitude (ML), Version=1
Source University of Utah Seismograph Stations

Event ID uu00002616


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douwn to 2.9

MAP 2.9 2010/04/05 14:48:02 44.601 -110.989 4.5 YELLOWSTONE NATIONAL PARK, WYOMING

but same location....as other 4

upgradet

MAP 3.0 2010/04/05 14:48:01 44.596 -110.983 5.7 YELLOWSTONE NATIONAL PARK, WYOMING


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