Whats going on at yellowstone?

They seem to make it very hard to find any information, as if they're trying to keep something a secret. I haven't noticed anything to do with yellowstone on the news or in newspapers, and I think its a little more than notable. Everything is very hush hush. It seems only the people that actually look into it find out a piece of the truth, the rest of the world remains in the dark.

Did all earthquakes just stop at Yellowstone. Is this weird or is it just the end of this swarm? www.seis.utah.edu...

reply to post by Misoir


Why don't you look here?
quake.utah.edu...

Some small earthquakes are still continuing.
Since they're small, they take some time to be manually reviewed, then added to the list by a seismologist.

reply to post by alysha.angel


Yes, some people already noticed several hours ago.
I can't access it either.

[edit on 2010-1-23 by Shirakawa]

try this link !
www.intlvrc.org...

Over 250 earthquakes have occurred in the park over the last few days, most between 0.5-3.1 on the Richter Scale - and getting larger each day. The swarm is centered 10 miles northwest of Old Faithful, Wyoming and 9 miles southeast of West Yellowstone. However, before everyone gets too excited, Dr. Robert Smith of University of Utah (the go-to scientist when it comes to Yellowstone seismicity) seems to think this swarm is tectonically-triggered rather than magmatic. Also, he makes sure to point out that it is wholly unrelated to the Haiti earthquake of last week. Most of the quakes are 8-10 km below the surface, which is still likely above the hot magma reservoir (believed to be ~6-16 km) where hot fluids or faults lubricated by these fluids could generate seismicity. YVO has, unsurprisingly, kept the alert status at Green because these swarms are common in a "restless" caldera like Yellowstone.

Ground Deformation Summary: Continuous GPS data show that uplift of the Yellowstone Caldera has slowed significantly and may have stopped. The WLWY station, located in the northeastern part of the caldera, underwent a total of ~23 cm of uplift between mid-2004 and mid-2009.

The Volcanoes.usgs.gov domain is back up.

Keep in mind it went down at a totally normal time for system maintenance in the US. Here's that link again to the 2010 swarm article:

volcanoes.usgs.gov...

It's a weekend.
UoU reporting slows down to a crawl on a weekend.
Perfectly normal, not a conspiracy.
M.

reply to post by ressiv


Ductile deformation of rocks is not a continuous effort but gets to a certain point where the ground rock breaks.. No more uplift could be a bad thing where the deformation has reached THAT point...
Magmatic intrusion at depth is important, but not as important as the disolved gasses in the magma that has to get to normal air pressure.. That combined with tectonic activity, temperature differential of the magma coming into contact with cool ground water even sea water channeled in by tectonic activity and the winter weather could combine to draw something to the suface explosively.. I hope not though..
I have to say; this is the best thread on the web, I read it with interest and some foreboding...

www.sciencedaily.com...

There's a fascinating article on the size of the plume... Much bigger than thought... 410 miles deep! Yikes.

Earthquakes, please stop. I said please.

An observation: the majority of the 3.0 + magnitude quakes have happened in the evening.

Fact: During the swarm last year, quakes were posted immediately with no delay. The policy change happened shortly afterward and quakes are never updated on weekends unless 2.5 +, and this is an automatic function which is not contolled by UofU. Don't have time myself, watching my six year old. Why doesn't some email and ask why the policy change?

Fact: this swarm has now had more earthquakes than last year's swarm, and Shirakawa will fill us in on when it surpasses it in cumulative energy.

Fact: this swarm is larger than the other "notable" swarms which YVO the has posted on historic quakes. It's bigger than 1995, 2004, and 2008/09. The only swarm that was bigger was 1985 and that was mostly outside the caldera.

Fact: the press response has been minimal, no where near the coverage generated last year.

Fact; this swarm was predicted,

www.abovetopsecret.com...

by me.

Fact: the swarm of 2008/09 of started just after a new moon when the earth was at maxium apogee.

Fact: the swarm of 2010 started during a new moon. Just after apogee. (Climax in french) Just after an eclipse.

Fact: I've discovered something important.

Fact: I linger in obscurity unable to have my observations widely noted.

Fact: California has had a lot of rain recently.

Fact: The El Nino has strengthened.

Fact: My kid needs lunch.

billingsgazette.com...

[edit on 23-1-2010 by Robin Marks]

Don't keep the little one waiting.

There has been some press, in fact I think it probably started a little earlier this year in relation to the beginning of the swarm, with the Denver Post picking up on it at about day three. I think you don't see more attention because recent events in Haiti have just eclipsed all else. It would probably seem a little selfish to be naval gazing at Yellowstone over a series of 3.x and lower quakes, but it has been reported on.

Right at this moment in time (knock on wood) it appears the swarm is in it's final stages. Almost no activity at all this morning.

You might be on to something with the moon's influence. I don't think it's necessarily wacky at all to think that the moon's gravity could influence a mantle plume that large. Have you tried emailing YVO about that issue, specifically, and your findings? The truth is, anything said in this forum is likely to languish in obscurity until verified by a second source.

reply to post by quakewatcher



me agrees with thee that its stopped or at least its taking a breather .

reply to post by quakewatcher


I agree....if the moon is always the same distance from the earth, then HOW can people come up with theories about the amount of sunlight on the moon at any given time having any affect on the planet???? I don't get it.

reply to post by quakewatcher


This isn't my first hypothesis that falls outside the norm. I tried to present my ideas and it was a horrible ordeal. I don't have a degree. Without one, you may as have a sandwhich board with the End is Near painted on it.

My first hypothesis led to this experiment.

www.youtube.com...

and you can see my explaination on the channel.

www.youtube.com...


I'm only out here writing my ideas about volcanoes because I have no other choice. It's the only thread specifically about Yellowstone and super volcanoes. After the thread was vacated by all the onlookers that left when the last one ended. There were a few hard core enthusiast and I thought I'd share all my ideas. It was a way to vent and a way to explore and experiment. My prediction was an experiment. I'm documenting this for future generations. I am sure one day my ideas will be recognized, it may just take a terribly long time.

PS. If you want to see first hand the response I've been getting. Read through my ideas through and present them to a geologist and see what happens. I already know.



[edit on 23-1-2010 by Robin Marks]

reply to post by mellisamouse


Hello, the orbit of the moon is not circular, it's an ellipse. Same as the earth, who's orbit is not a perfect circle. Here's some stuff to explain it.

rahmadh.files.wordpress.com...

www.jgiesen.de...

Originally posted by Robin Marks
An observation: the majority of the 3.0 + magnitude quakes have happened in the evening.

According to USGS, the night/day cycle doesn't affect earthquakes:
earthquake.usgs.gov...

Fact: During the swarm last year, quakes were posted immediately with no delay. The policy change happened shortly afterward and quakes are never updated on weekends unless 2.5 +, and this is an automatic function which is not contolled by UofU. Don't have time myself, watching my six year old. Why doesn't some email and ask why the policy change?

I'm afraid they would never speak of such policies and refer to the newly added FAQ on their website about when earthquakes are added instead.

Fact: this swarm has now had more earthquakes than last year's swarm, and Shirakawa will fill us in on when it surpasses it in cumulative energy.

I think in cumulative energy this swarm will remain below the Lake one. That swarm had a M3.9 earthquake and 17 other ones equal or greater than M3.0. I've made a chart:

The "dimensionless seismic energy" of the current swarm stops at about 1700000 and I doubt it will rise much more even including all the earthquakes occurred. Big earthquakes are what count, unless there are *really many* smaller ones.

Fact: this swarm is larger than the other "notable" swarms which YVO the has posted on historic quakes. It's bigger than 1995, 2004, and 2008/09. The only swarm that was bigger was 1985 and that was mostly outside the caldera.

With over 1000 earthquakes, I think this swarm has become the largest after the 1985 one. However the 2008/2009 lake swarm was larger in terms of total earthquake energy.

[edit on 2010-1-23 by Shirakawa]

Originally posted by Robin Marks
reply to post by mellisamouse

 

Hello, the orbit of the moon is not circular, it's an ellipse. Same as the earth, who's orbit is not a perfect circle. Here's some stuff to explain it.

rahmadh.files.wordpress.com...

www.jgiesen.de...

Thanks, but I was unclear, assuming everyone would know what I meant...completely unclear, lol...

hopefully this makes more sense....

WITHIN it's normal orbit, it dosen't all of a sudden go astray, or off it's predictable course, so why would it make a difference where the sunlight is shining on it, the magnetic pull only comes from it's distance, not from the amount of sunlight it may have appearing on it from a certain point on the earth.....

I guess I should make a new thread to go into it... like all of the superstitions etc too..

[edit on 23-1-2010 by mellisamouse]

reply to post by Robin Marks



I hate to pop your bubble, but you aren't the first person to suggest that the moon is a direct cause of earthquake,,, thats been batted around for years.

You would have to go back and say that every swarm should be directly correlated to a moon phase which they are not


[edit on 23-1-2010 by RickinVa]

reply to post by RickinVa


Your'e not bursting my bubble. I was basing observations of researchers on the San Andreas fault that for a correlation. There's other studies that have suggested the moon as a factor. I was just applying the research to Yellowstone.

And not every swarm is the same and caused by the same type of event.
It depends on the condition of the chamber. When there has been times the caldera subsides, there wouldn't be the same pressures. What we know from the geologists is that there has been a steday rise since 2004, the uplift has slowed but no on is sure that it's stop as they say it MAY have stopped. So during the last two years we've had a full chamber, full of pressure and molten magma. And during the last two years, during the apogee of the moon at perhilion, we've had swarms. That's a corrrelation.

The moon would not have a major effect during times of subsidence.

what people like me do out of scheer bordom!

more to the point has anybody noticed that the acting scientist here is the same guy from the AVO Peter Cervelli, unless the usgs has more then one guy with the same name and same email add?

i just find it odd but interesting kind of odd .

[edit on 23/1/10 by alysha.angel]

what happended to Jake Lowenstern.

[edit on 23/1/10 by alysha.angel]

Greetings All! I have been following this thread for some time and am glad that I have found people on the same thought process as myself. I have been following and searching any and all information on Yellowstone for several years. I have had to go as far as to givin formal writin to USGS and PBO for information under the freedom of information act as ever time I would search and get close to things they would block me from the information. Robin this mornig I was thinking how the larger quakes appeared to be happening approximately 11:00 pm est. give or take and hour or two and the corrolation with the swarms following the winter solstice. There was just another quake to the south of the swarm earthquake.usgs.gov... I do not think this is over just yet