Whats going on at yellowstone?

Haven't had time to catch up yet but Kuril caught my eye. Hope I am not duplicating anyone's post

Ok; my volcano addiction could use an action fix..Very quiet, almost too quiet...
Close to 50 above F here today, new record, very odd and very quiet.. Anyone else in AK?

reply to post by geogeek
Yep, makes good sense not to fret too much over it until we have a bit more info about the precise weather at the time. Frozen ground combined with one or two other factors could account for its apparent increase in strength.

You know, it occurred to me that as on at least two recent occasions these anomalous traces have shown up after a major teleseism came through, it could be that just the "jolt" the equipment got in those cases might have been enough to send it kablooey if wasn't already in perfect health, electronically speaking.

I'll keep an eye on it (like many will), but for now I'd rather go with expert opinion and not get too wound up about it. However I reserve the right to go totally nuts later on...

Many thanks,

Mike

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If you see my post and link on the previous page you will see that after the 7.4 there have been several others in that area. Most likely aftershocks, I presume.

They really need to clean off Old Faithful's webcam, you can barely see anything, due to snow on it. So I can't make out much in the distance.

reply to post by questioningall


Hmm www.nps.gov... is working perfectly clear on my monitor. - Now clean monitor pls :=)

reply to post by Wrathier


LOL I am seeing snow on the webcam and it is fuzzy, how can your picture be perfectly clear? When it is the same webcam?

A little humorous story for you:

Swedish Cows Make Lousy Earthquake Detectors, Study Says.

www.thelocal.se...

Maybe the bison are able to detect earthquakes a little more readily than these slacker Swedish cows? Or maybe the whole "animal behavior" thing is limited to cats and dogs and the like.

reply to post by questioningall


That is a good question mate but I am using the secund one on this list: www.nps.gov... and it looks "fine" to me no snow just damp from the geyser. - Pretty much damp right now by the way.

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www.pmel.noaa.gov...


www.pmel.noaa.gov...#



Ok, To add another layer of info to this Elephant we have been trying to understand named Yellowstone. Here is another info perspective.

Who better to understand Hydrothermal vents plumes explosions than NOAA and NeMo.
We have all seen the info of what will happen topside..what about below.
If you crawl around on these sites you will find in depth water chem/temp(for the moment forget that theirs is salt based but ask how else it could apply) Geology Seismology and discerning 'man made' verses 'natural' on interesting combined graphs and 3D imaging, and acoustic plugins.

GRANTED, I think we can agree that there is probably no Y Nessie or Whale causing some of the mysterious caterpillars! lol
However, the info and charts they post if we look at them might spark an 'ah ha moment' or 'if that is true there what about here'.

I have sent an email to them to ask if they have been asked by USGS or others for their input to anything about Y Lake and water system. Or, what correlation they my see between Y and their work.

I'll let you know when I do.
Cheers,

Mushussu


[edit on 16-1-2009 by Mushussu]

No matter that the steam has been "heavy" today, yellowstone area is very very come I think.

Originally posted by quakewatcher

Snip...... Dr. Jake Lowenstern:

I'd guess it is electronic garbage, probably related to the telemetry, but I suppose it could be a man made signal. Definitely not natural. Best to ask UUSS and see what they think, as they are most familiar with these sorts of things.

...snip....

I'm catching up after more than a day of not being able to check this thread, so I'm going to make a few comments related to the last day's worth of postings.

Again, these comments from one of the experts on the scene makes the most sense.

The previously named Top Secret Geyser, know known as "the pipecleaner events" still looks far too quick to stop and start, and too uniform in amplitude to be anything BUT man-made.

It could be RF interference (there IS a nearby strain measuring unit that is NOT directly linked to the LKWY station).

It could be a pump, compressor, air sampler, or some guy on his CB

The main point is that it's obviously not a natural event, so I think we can ignore it for the purposes of trying to analyze what's really going on under Yellowstone.

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This chart from yesterday, to me, is a fantastic example of three phenomenon, and thus, can serve as a textbook demonstration of those three things:

farm4.static.flickr.com...

At approximately 18:00 UTC, we have telesiesm from the large Kuril Islands quake. To me, it's very informative to see how that looks and how long it lasts.

At several points (but a good one starts just a bit before 01:00 UTC and ends at 01:04:15) are some of these man-caused events that seem to be so common at LKWY. Pump, RFI, whatever.

Then just before 04:15 UTC, we have another of these man-caused events beginning.

Then, at about 04:16, we see a "real" earthquake in the area superimposed over that ongoing man-caused "pipecleaner".

Note the shape of the "real" earthquake. Starts out with a fairly sharp rise to max amplitude, then dies away in a classic exponential. By about 04:18 UTC, we're back down to seeing only that man-caused "noise" and then that noise stops abruptly a bit before 04:19 UTC.

To me, yesterday's chart is a great demonstration of some of the things we've all been talking about.

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Weather conditions, snow, melting, steam, etc.

I've posted a list of links to automated weather stations in the Yellowstone area some time back, but here they are again.

raws.wrh.noaa.gov...

raws.wrh.noaa.gov...

raws.wrh.noaa.gov...

raws.wrh.noaa.gov...

raws.wrh.noaa.gov...

raws.wrh.noaa.gov...

raws.wrh.noaa.gov...

raws.wrh.noaa.gov...

raws.wrh.noaa.gov...

raws.wrh.noaa.gov...

raws.wrh.noaa.gov...

I'd love to have one for right there at Old Faithful and maybe another for right near the lake. But hey...

Anyhow, keep in mind that snow will melt in the area due to wind, temperature, and local heating from the thermal features.

Steam will be just like seeing your breath. The closer the temperature is to the dew point, the more likely you'll see fog or steam. Check dew point and temperature when you see a lot of steam

Seeing your breath is NOT only a function of temperature. It's got a lot more to do with how close the temp is to the dew point than just about anything else.

Note the parking lot is bare today, and beautiful new snow covering the trees. Neat!

Trying things... edit

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How in the world do you embed an image into a post? Even when I enclose the link to the photo within the (note, I've used curly brackets instead of the real ones so this won't trigger something odd), I do NOT get the image embedded into the post.

Instead, it just shows up as a different kind of link.

And yet, I see photos and graphs embedded into peoples' posts here.

What's the secret?

All the stuff going on at aslwww.cr.usgs.gov... seems to has stopped now.

reply to post by VX-7R


I've been using photobucket and when you have the photo you want you click on "get links". I just copy and paste the one for posting to threads. I'm also, as you can probably tell, technically challenged but this works swell for me.

reply to post by VX-7R


I 've been told photobucket.

reply to post by Penster


I know this is off topic, and the moderators may feel free to delete this exchange, but...

I'm using Flicr, have for years. I have probably embedded thousands of shots from there into other forums, and never had a problem. But here, all I can do is link to the photos and such. They never show up "in-line" on this forum.

Let me try something. I'll be right back.....

Originally posted by VX-7R
How in the world do you embed an image into a post? Even when I enclose the link to the photo within the (note, I've used curly brackets instead of the real ones so this won't trigger something odd), I do NOT get the image embedded into the post.

Instead, it just shows up as a different kind of link.

And yet, I see photos and graphs embedded into peoples' posts here.

What's the secret?

First if it is off the net, right click on the picture and then choose "save as" then once saved on your computer...go to member center and click on "upload" on the left. Then press browse on that page and find your photo you saved, and then click upload.

Once you have done that (I do it in a different window btw)
then click on that link in the upload with your photo, a new page pops up with the link now to your photo - right click on it and press copy.

Then come in and write your post and click on the little icon which is colored above for inserting a photo. A little tab comes up and then right click and press paste into that little window and wahla - your picture will be inserted in the post.

Oh - to be on topic with thread, a yellowstone picture would be great!

reply to post by quakewatcher



HAHAHAHA!!!!! You know, I just commented to my work mate the other day when he said that the bison don't seem to care, they are like cows, so they probably don't sense much until it's actually happening.

reply to post by questioningall


I use Flickr to host my shots. You can see all of the stuff I've been posting just fine if you click my links.

And even my avatar was created and hosted on Flickr.

So all of that part works and is familiar to me.

But what I want to do is get the image to show up in-line within the post so people will see it embedded into my post without needing to click a link and view it in another window.

Try as I might, nothing I've posted shows up in-line. It's always just a link.

Are you saying that to show up in-line, I cannot use an external hosting site (such as photobucket, flickr, PBase, etc.)? Instead, I've got to upload the photo to ATS's own hosting location?

I'm baffled right now. I've posted photos to photography forums for the last four or five years. Thousands of them. And all I do is get the URL for the picture and embed it into the posting.

But here. All I can get is a link. If people click the link, they see my photo in another window of their browser. But to embed the photo so it shows up in-line seems to be impossible for me.

Do I need to downsize the photos to some maximum dimensions before they'll embed?

I'm not finding any of this in the FAQs. They just say to enclose the URL for the image within brackets with the appropriate img codes. But alas, that just produces a different flavor of "External Image" that must be clicked to show up.

I'm doing something stupid, I know

Thanks!