Whats going on at yellowstone?

reply to post by Mushussu
Sorry for the delay in replying. Had dinner, then had to get some animated gifs made up to show the pattern of outflow. I don't think there is a cycle but the images will show it better than I can tell it.

In the following images, the brown line represents the mean (average), the blue or red line is the actual flow. (Blue line means “recorded”, red line is “estimated”.) Please note that the graphs do not all use the same scales. I couldn’t do much about that. The thing to watch for, though, is if the blue/red line is above or below the brown line.

I hope all these images will work…I set the animations to run fairly slowly so it won't be too hard on the eyes for older folks like me.

This first one is for the seven-year period from Jul 01, 1988 to Jun 30, 1995. I set them up this way so that winter is in the middle of the graph and so it’s easier to follow what happens:


And here is the graph for the three-month period in each year, in the format Nov 01 1988 to Jan 31 1989, Nov 01 1989 to Jan 31 1990, and so on to Jan 31 1995:


You can see that in this seven-year period the outflow did not deviate much above the mean in the key period we’re concerned with, namely December into January.

Now for the next seven years, from Jul 01 1995 to Jun 30 2002:


This time there is a four-year stretch with outflow above the mean, but the flow appears to be higher for most of the entire year in each case. Here is the 3-month series, on the same date-basis as the previous one, years 1995 -- 2002:


The final series covers the (less than) seven-year period from Jul 01 2002 to Jan 10, 2009:


And here is the three-month, Nov to Jan series for the same period:


(Credits: All original images from USGS. Published for informational purposes only. Individual images have not been altered in any way. The animations are not from USGS. Images converted to animated gif format courtesy of Gickr.com. )

Summary:

Although there have been some years where the levels have also been above the trend for this time of year, it is difficult to determine whether there were other factors involved in those cases, as we suspect may be the situation now. In short…more research is needed!

(Now didn’t you just know I was gonna say that? )

Mike

PS If any gifs are in the wrong place lets me know and I'll try and fix them. They should be okay but it's getting on in the evening here so I might have messed something up.

Errm..Edited to fix a bad animation.


[edit on 11/1/09 by JustMike]

Anyone else unable to get through to Utah now? I'm getting time outs.

I guess we have managed to overload the public servers.

I for one don't think it's funny that the History channel has been airing all sorts of programs centered upon doomsday scenarios and calling it Apocalypse Week for the past several days. Spooky.

reply to post by trusername


It looks like it is a combination of 2 different pictures taken at different times...notice the change all the way from the top of the pic to the bottom...it's better resolution on the right side top to bottom than the left...and notice the clouds and their shadows on the lake vs no clouds on the left?


[edit on 1/11/2009 by Hx3_1963]

Originally posted by Hx3_1963
reply to post by severdsoul

 

Strange to say the least...why would they want to do something as complicated as this right in the middle of 2 million other things going on?

Yep, they know something we don't know . .. don't know if this has more to do with Biden's statement that soon after Obama took office he would be severely tested or what . . . . .

reply to post by Penster


They're talking about supervolcanoes on there right now.

reply to post by littleflower


It's either the Economy/Gov/$ is gonna crack soon or MAYBE "some other disaster" they have a inkling of

reply to post by rigel434


Web page is dead ??? .... 2:23 PM

Originally posted by rigel434

Originally posted by quakewatcher
Really guys, you really want to look at YPP.

www.seis.utah.edu...

It's been going on for about 45 min now.

Doesn't show up on the other stations at all, and it looks so consistent that it appears to be machinery of some kind.

It shows up on YML, YMP, YLT

reply to post by geogeek


It look like it's all starting over again like december.
Site down dns changes, webicorder's offline..

reply to post by trusername


Try clicking back and forth with this thermal image of the lake bottom


pubs.usgs.gov/pp/1717/downloads/pdf/Front.pd


You will see the diagonal threads from yours line up with some of the underwater formations. Link in the stream inputs and you can see where currents can be.

... Sorry it took so long. I know that there is a current map for fishermen to the lake and I was trying to find it.. no success

Maybe someone else can find that for us.

reply to post by severdsoul

I don't know how many people remember this, but there were "disaster drills" underway on 9/11, planned months in advance, that exactly mirrored the actual events that ended up actually happening at the exact time they were running those "drills." Learn from history, people... you forget it at your own peril.

reply to post by coolvibe


quake.utah.edu...

is down also...what's up?

mbmgquake.mtech.edu...

and this too...


[edit on 1/11/2009 by Hx3_1963]

reply to post by Hx3_1963
JUst to confirm for you all who are US-based, I can't access the U of U either.(Sometimes I can access stuff here when it's down or offline in the US) It's always been fine but now I can't even get the main page for the Yellowstone webicorders.

Does anyone have a back door to the site by any chance? Or a way to check why it's down?

EDIT: BTW, the USGS earthquakes hazards page (maps etc) is still running normally.

Mike



[edit on 11/1/09 by JustMike]

reply to post by Hx3_1963



What could cause all the sites to go down like that? Too many people accessing them? It worries me a bit that YPP was looking the way it did and then the site goes down.

WY network stations on GEE don't work either.
Seems everything is down.
It could simply be a DNS problem though.

[edit on 2009/1/11 by Shirakawa]

reply to post by JustMike


I'm in the netherlands.
Only i have an aol/compuserve connection.

Originally posted by coloradoreader
reply to post by Hx3_1963

 

What could cause all the sites to go down like that? Too many people accessing them? It worries me a bit that YPP was looking the way it did and then the site goes down.

UofU has ONE (1) DNS server. One. 'nuff said.

reply to post by Shirakawa

A DNS problem for 5+ seperate institutions located in different areas? Probley nuttin' but just adds to the "theorys"



[edit on 1/11/2009 by Hx3_1963]

Really...come on now...how/why would these sites (U of Utah and Montana Bureau of Mines and Geology)go down at the same time? I've been monitoring them for weeks with NO problems. What the #&*$() is up?