Whats going on at yellowstone?

Are we studying information so far regarding the cause and localized effects, or possible far-range effects?

I'm sorry!

OMG! You guys crack me up!!

No you don't.

Just kidding.

Yes you do. lol!!!

reply to post by huntergatherer


It is a very siesmic area. Yellowstone has one of the worlds largest Calderas. It is 30 miles or so wide. It is not suprising that there have been recent quakes there. To the west of yellowstone is the famous San Andeas Fault. If that volcano decides to blow it's not going to be pretty.

Originally posted by ravenshadow13
Are we studying information so far regarding the cause and localized effects, or possible far-range effects?

I'm sorry!

All of the above.

The Earth is an interconnected system after all.
Of the things we are looking for/at:

Possible sources of interference to the sensors.
Ground deformation.
Water out flow from Yellowstone lake that might signify the above.
Seismic activity, harmonic tremors, causes, external (from the park) quakes.
Thermal activity increases/decreases. (More geysers than normal, the stopping of regular geysers etc.)
News Reports & articles pertaining to the situation.

Moshpet

reply to post by geogeek
Well if it's a larger hydrothermal event I guess you mean "explosion" rather than "eruption", but I'm being picky. True, though, a hydrothermal explosion would be a lot better scenario than a full-on volcanic event. It's had several since the last "big" volcanic eruption and they didn't set it all off again.

The very best scenario (besides "nothing happens at all") would be maybe a couple of new qeysers and/or hot springs for people to look at and enjoy. After all, those geysers in the park all had to be formed somehow...

Thanks for those names/places/events you mentioned. I'll check them out.

Just a friendly note: no need to quote my entire post in your reply. ATS asks us to minimize the quoting of entire posts. Just use the "reply" tag and we'll have the link to it anyway. Saves space.

Best regards and stay warm,

Mike

it looks like Old Yellow has made MSNBC once again.



www.msnbc.msn.com...

Amazing to me, people come on here and comment and
if they would just go back maybe 5 pages and read,
the answer is given' or the link is there!
I know it is a huge thread, I'll shut up now.

No biggie, everyone is encouraged to respond!

Just making this point so the new people will read up first.
VX-7R, we need to post that summary every 4 pages or so!

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reply to post by JustMike



Actually a hydrothermal or Phreatic event is still classified an eruption.

No such thing as Phreatic explosion.

....seriously, I mean no disrespect but before you make your first post on this thread, please read the first 10 pages and then maybe spot check every 50 or so. 1) you will learn who the players are here and the information they have brought and 2) you won't feel silly telling people that Yellowstone has a volcano.

reply to post by RickinVa


That's an exact copy of the Google one. Who is copying who.

While I am on has anyone noticed that in the ANSS data the UU and WY earthquakes are all given without their EQID making it impossible to relate them to current data.

I am one of those who do not believe in "carbon dating", so I don't agree with concepts like "billions of years of earth history" etc. I also don't accept the estimated timeline of Yellowstone eruptions.
With all that, eruption is more likely in my mind than the official prognostication says. I hope it does not happen, but human kind has to understand that everything on Earth is just temporary, and that we need to prepare. False sense of security is just that - false.

reply to post by TwiTcHomatic

Sorry but I have to disagree with you when you say that there is "no such thing as a phreatic explosion". Well, to put it another way, the CVO at USGS disagrees with you: Link to images of phreatic explosion pits

"Hydrothermal explosion" is also a term in common use, as evidenced by "What's a Hydrothermal Explosion" in the USGS FAQ's about recent findings at Yellowstone Park.

While hydrothermal/phreatic events can also be eruptions (eg Old Faithful erupts hydrothermally), I was making the distinction in my reply to geogeek in the specific context of a major, explosive event. We know that Yellowstone has many hydrothermal eruption events every day and that they are not what we are worried about.

Mike

Hello all, old posters and new.
I have been u2u'ing with a few in the background today
From getting my Badge up to hypotheticals and personal prediction theories.

But first, I have posted this site way back and thought it good read to review.
This is a good read and addresses some smaller eruption possibilities
Do not let the Tsunami in Yellowstone part throw you.

ABC News: Tsunami Linked to Yellowstone Crater
Jan 14, 2008 ... Yellowstone National Park Ranger Gary Nelson explores thermal vents at Mary Bay at Yellowstone Lake, in this undated photo.


abcnews.go.com/Technology/wireStory?id=4133073 - Similar pages

abcnews.go.com...

Second, during this lull time period of events, I have been asked to pose this question.
"Where do you think the next EQ will happen within the next 24-48 hours?"

This is mostly for those of us who have been watching graphs and charts for days or even years. For others please give your honest thoughts.

I fall into the YEARS category and my thought is something sizable off the Northern coast of Cal at the Cal/Or border.

No slings and arrows necessary or tomatoes. It is just something else to think about until the events start up again.

Mushussu

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reply to post by PuterMan


Another star for intuition!
No seriously, I have kinda gave up watching some of this
for just this reason.
Hard to know whats "up to the minute" and "officially accurate"!
If ya know what I mean.

We just each have our own methods thats all.
I only need alerted to specific big quakes, for example!
The rest is just noise on my ipod! I'm kidding here!

Mushussu, I missed that, can't imagine how that would happen!
I'm a voracious reader and try to read everything here, but I get
tired of the spin the news whips up sometimes, my bad.
I stand humbled before the god of overwhelming information!
Gad you would think with the number of NPS employees
on the books someone would come on here and say-
this is wrong or that is... hmm.
Good thing I can't spell gag order!

BTW, biggest full moon is tonight!

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We have all been hanging out here for days and it reminds me of sleeping in a stall of the barn while awaiting a mare to foal. In this case we are praying for a false pregnancy rather than twins. Hopefully it will be nothing more than the birth of a new guyser which will relieve hydraulic pressure from below without any disasterous effects.

reply to post by Mushussu
Actually not a bad idea to look at other possible locations for upcoming quakes, especially in areas that are theorized to be connected to Yellowstone, and back in this thread we have some reports that talk of a connection between the Juan De Fuca plate and its possible effects on the plume beneath Yellowstone.

Sooo...the area you've mentioned could be on the cards. It's reasonably active but most of the time the quakes there (offshore) run mainly in the lower magnitudes. Three and fours most often. The most recent bigger one was a 5.9 further north up by Vancouver Island, about 3 weeks ago if I recall. It was in the north-central part of the Juan d. plate.

Down off the coast from Eureka had a nice little burst of activity around a month ago. Be worth checking to see if there was anything much happening in Yellowstone at that time. Hmmm... Same with the larger one off Vancouver... I've got all the data on those quakes so it wouldn't be hard to check dates and times.

Mike

reply to post by Mushussu


Did you ever see any of the shows about giant waves created by landslides that have been shown in the last few years?

They show the aftermath of one in Alaska and interview some people who witnessed it. It's astounding!

www.uwsp.edu...

www.extremescience.com...

www.drgeorgepc.com...

I suppose the point being made in the link you posted was that something similar happened in Yellowstone Lake and that, then, triggered the Mary Bay hydrothermal explosion. Intriguing!

reply to post by VX-7R

Yes, I have seen them all pretty much.
It is an interesting domino effect.
It does not have to be all the same type of events to trigger something else.

Other than mathematics or case studies to estimate a Q location, Visual observation info is just as important.

For any novices, look for a pattern in event sites. Size and Distance. Have a look have some fun, before it gets intense again and we are all hard at it once more!

Originally posted by ravenshadow13
This thread is -so- big.

Can somebody summarize the past 300 pages? I read the first 30 or so, but... somebody should make a summary. Especially so that good points don't need to be repeated by people who didn't read.

What a great idea.
Please feel free to go ahead with that.
You'll find there is a lot of interesting reading to do along the way.

reply to post by dodadoom


Just back tracked and saw your post.
Your too funny.
There is alot of info on this thread, staggering.
If all people who come to this site do is click and read the
Highlighted blue sites we post that could cut alot of red tape.

Maybe that is a good word to the wise.
Read the blue posted sites to keep up.






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