Whats going on at yellowstone?

reply to post by PuterMan


This is great. It didn't make it to page 300 - but it is a well deserved award! I've been tracking the thread from the beginning - I can't imagine just starting now - even after a good nights rest -picking up the next day requires some serious focus!

Originally posted by chacana
by the way.

if the volcanoes errupts .. then what about the whole 2012 situation ??

Hi.
I wrote my beeory on this a few pages back to tie this all together.
What if - this was the catalyst for these end times predicted in
so many works and possibly related to scientificaly plausible scenarios such as pole shifts, cosmic rays, solar events, etc..
What if the US is so devastated we were taken over, basically.
Drawn up and quartered or something, ?
That could initiate other events such as takover of Israel, NWO
and other predicted prophecies. It is all speculation of course,
but it would fit the historical time line and would explain most of these
prophecies, calenders and works also.
I have studied prophecy and revelation a bit and I must confess
the US might not be too relevant in the future.
I'm at a loss as to why. One reason I'm here.
Just some ideas to throw out.

As has been proven here. Things ARE connected!



[edit on 9-1-2009 by dodadoom]

Originally posted by Moshpet

Originally posted by dgtempe
We can go to Mars, presumably send men to the moon, but we cant stick something in that Caldera that would allow it to ....fart...(sorry) you know, a little one here, a little one there could conceivably diminish that super blow.

(I'm not sure this was sarcasm, but here goes.: )

That's one of the misconceptions they illustrated in most of the 'Supervolcano' Movies.

Supposedly a small hole is a pin prick to a large chamber. However given the nature of the beast, all you would have done is create a ready made 'vent' for all the pressure to come out. Also the type of magma in Yellowstone is siliclastic as opposed to the type of magma in Hawaii. So it flows out faster and with a lot more force, as the gas trapped in the magma pushes it out.

Also the magma chamber is 2-5 miles underground, I'm not sure it could be drilled.

Moshpet

the massive amount of pressure would probably ream out any vent U made into chamber quite rapidly ( I suspect ...), either that, or if U were using a high temperature steel casing , it might be plugged by magma quicky, and nothing accomplished ...

I doubt that the rough-necks could get cheap insurance, however ....

I think it was in the 80's a basalt dyke formed in Iceland which intersected a geothermal steam plumbing casing ... magma came shooting up the casing, where the casing did a right angle turn the Magma blew a hole in the elbow joint .. it was first ever case of a man made volcano ... the casing got plugged with magma quickly after ejecting a ton or 2 of material ... I saw a picture of it once .. U could probably find it online with Google somewhere ...

[edit on 9/1/09 by geogeek]

heres a reference to it from an Alaska site ..
www.gi.alaska.edu...

[edit on 9/1/09 by geogeek]

reply to post by MischeviousElf


THANKS very much for that. I had heard that Jim called the California quake accurately.

Off topic sort of....


Happy 300 !!!

reply to post by operation mindcrime


Lol

They took over years ago, but its like the Matrix we don't see the illusion we are in.

I was going to post a lot on the thread on pg2/3 about the movement sensors and such like, the deformation, have been watching Yellowstone for years, but went away, couple of days looking at it closely on Google earth as 5 quakes became 30 etc, when came back to thread 80 odd pages and no time to read it all...

But I have dipped in randomly to pages and some great contributions must be said.

My biggest fear is not that the caldera is about to go by design, but as mentioned by Valhall and me in this thread:

Thixotropy, Gel Strength and Yellowstone

That just hydrothermal workings through of a new channel, which I think is taking place , Hydrothermal events due to location, proximity, strength and depth, well that a crack/fissure could be caused by these events on the solid mantle on top of the caldera, beneath the lake...

That the normal new geysey, or a current blocked hydrothermal channel is causing this swarm, the EQ's created will deform the lake floor, or let a fissure open, adding to the hydrothermal activity, or even dumping most of the lake down onto the Magma top below,

explosive event then, more seismic activity which may then allow the actual "Cap" as such on top of the caldera to Rupture itself...

Then well its a 50/50 if its a St Helens or mass extinction event really.

I don't think the Magma is doing this, except for heating the rock above and creating the steam, but this could lead to a runaway event due to its location and all that water and hydrothermal activity anyhow...

Hopefully not...

Been on ATS not soo much much Inner Work needed to deprogram myself more lol, and elderly family member needs a lot of my time indeed.

Your posts on here great as usual Mind Crime.

Catch U soon, really good interview by the way I suggest all look at my reply to above, and go to the link.

If anyone knows about this Its Jim.

Kind Regards,

Elf

reply to post by geogeek


from geogeek:

check out the uplift at this station WLWY , which is almost on top of todays earthquakes .. seems to have risen about 22 cm since 2004 .. even more that LKWY ... definetly a geo-hot-spot to watch for future developments ....



Thanks,will do

Originally posted by geogeek

Originally posted by Moshpet

Originally posted by dgtempe
We can go to Mars, presumably send men to the moon, but we cant stick something in that Caldera that would allow it to ....fart...(sorry) you know, a little one here, a little one there could conceivably diminish that super blow.

(I'm not sure this was sarcasm, but here goes.: )

That's one of the misconceptions they illustrated in most of the 'Supervolcano' Movies.

Supposedly a small hole is a pin prick to a large chamber. However given the nature of the beast, all you would have done is create a ready made 'vent' for all the pressure to come out. Also the type of magma in Yellowstone is siliclastic as opposed to the type of magma in Hawaii. So it flows out faster and with a lot more force, as the gas trapped in the magma pushes it out.

Also the magma chamber is 2-5 miles underground, I'm not sure it could be drilled.

Moshpet

the massive amount of pressure would probably ream out any vent U made into chamber quite rapidly ( I suspect ...), either that, or if U were using a high temperature steel casing , it might be plugged by magma quicky, and nothing accomplished ...

I doubt that the rough-necks could get cheap insurance, however ....

I think it was in the 80's a basalt dyke formed in Iceland which intersected a geothermal steam plumbing casing ... magma came shooting up the casing, where the casing did a right angle turn the Magma blew a hole in the elbow joint .. it was first ever case of a man made volcano ... the casing got plugged with magma quickly after ejecting a ton or 2 of material ... I saw a picture of it once .. U could probably find it online with Google somewhere ...

[edit on 9/1/09 by geogeek]

This would be a tricky venture. Path of least resistance assuming that Yellowstone being fairly active and all is connected to the main magma going around the earth. If you open it up, it might not quit........

Thanks Elf for the link.. guick question is this the same Jim who wrote the educational papers for college students in Cali?

Originally posted by Moshpet
Oh hey folks,
I found a 'quaint' little game over on the BBC's site about a Supervolcano.

You get to play a disaster planner trying to come up with a 14 day plan...

www.bbc.co.uk...

Enjoy

Moshpet

lol leave it to the Brits to 'Benny Hill' us....

reply to post by chacana


Only one meteor in Canada in the past couple days but I think three hit there in the last 2 months. Teasers.

They're showing 10 earthquakes for today now. YMP is starting to look like an ekg monitor

Originally posted by Penster
reply to post by chacana

 

This could build up for a while. The timeline may still fit.

Yes, we may not understand fully the ramifications.
Worst case scenario is not good, nuclear winter, starvation, cannibalism, etc.
Basically the worst of the worst. What if it all kinda happens at once?
One scenario sparks the next? Would not matter what
started what or when even. Pole shift could instigate it.
Huge earthquake could. Or a solar event. Or...
Time is not so relevant because the calender may be off a bit.
Scholars have admitted as much.
Reason I say that is because it exists by itself regardless of us.
?
Oh nevermind, get me another beer! Please?



[edit on 9-1-2009 by dodadoom]

[edit on 9-1-2009 by dodadoom]

Originally posted by xoxo stacie
Thanks Elf for the link.. guick question is this the same Jim who wrote the educational papers for college students in Cali?

Stacie I couldn't say, Im in the UK, he was employed by the USGS and a very well respected indeed.

I know his credentials would give him the ability to write educational material, but not sure if its him.

He has a site do a search or Wiki and BIO him...

Sorry cant help further.

Elf.

Sorry if this has been posted, not had chance to catch up

MAG 3.3 2009/01/09 11:17:31 44.678N 110.254W 3.1 45 km (28 mi) SSW of Cooke City-Silver Gate, MT

recent earthquakes

Today 9th January
Update time = Fri Jan 9 17:02:19 MST 2009

1.7 2009/01/09 12:47:41 44.659N 110.242W 5.5 46 km (29 mi) SSW of Cooke City-Silver Gate, MT
1.4 2009/01/09 12:08:27 44.691N 110.253W 2.2 44 km (27 mi) SW of Cooke City-Silver Gate, MT
1.9 2009/01/09 11:57:14 44.665N 110.274W 2.0 47 km (29 mi) SW of Cooke City-Silver Gate, MT
1.8 2009/01/09 11:51:31 44.665N 110.261W 4.4 47 km (29 mi) SSW of Cooke City-Silver Gate, MT
3.3 2009/01/09 11:17:31 44.678N 110.254W 3.1 45 km (28 mi) SSW of Cooke City-Silver Gate, MT
1.4 2009/01/09 11:10:39 44.669N 110.265W 2.4 46 km (29 mi) SW of Cooke City-Silver Gate, MT
2.4 2009/01/09 11:08:13 44.669N 110.254W 4.2 46 km (29 mi) SSW of Cooke City-Silver Gate, MT
1.1 2009/01/09 11:06:02 44.669N 110.256W 2.2 46 km (29 mi) SSW of Cooke City-Silver Gate, MT
1.1 2009/01/09 09:33:36 44.735N 111.155W 7.3 9 km ( 6 mi) NNW of West Yellowstone, MT
2.2 2009/01/09 07:41:10 44.665N 110.254W 4.3 46 km (29 mi) SSW of Cooke City-Silver Gate, MT
1.0 2009/01/09 07:37:12 44.677N 110.238W 2.2 45 km (28 mi) SSW of Cooke City-Silver Gate, MT

Thought they said the eq's had stopped?

[edit on 9-1-2009 by violet]

[edit on 9-1-2009 by violet]

Well, forget what I said about the earthquakes showing up right away, they are definitely reviewing them first.

Last one currently reported at 12:47:41 mountain time, at a 1.7. Looking at later events at YMP there are at least 2 of a similar magnitude and 2 smaller ones since then. Last one at 16:08:something.

If there are too many they will likely stack up again and the map won't be updated for a while.



[edit on 9-1-2009 by quakewatcher]

reply to post by PuterMan


AAARRRGH - this link is not working for me!


Nevermind - replying to wrong post. Der!

[edit on 9-1-2009 by Penster]

Well at least we know it's not all just wind.

Originally posted by geogeek

Originally posted by Moshpet

Originally posted by dgtempe
We can go to Mars, presumably send men to the moon, but we cant stick something in that Caldera that would allow it to ....fart...(sorry) you know, a little one here, a little one there could conceivably diminish that super blow.

(I'm not sure this was sarcasm, but here goes.: )

That's one of the misconceptions they illustrated in most of the 'Supervolcano' Movies.

Supposedly a small hole is a pin prick to a large chamber. However given the nature of the beast, all you would have done is create a ready made 'vent' for all the pressure to come out. Also the type of magma in Yellowstone is siliclastic as opposed to the type of magma in Hawaii. So it flows out faster and with a lot more force, as the gas trapped in the magma pushes it out.

Also the magma chamber is 2-5 miles underground, I'm not sure it could be drilled.

Moshpet

the massive amount of pressure would probably ream out any vent U made into chamber quite rapidly ( I suspect ...), either that, or if U were using a high temperature steel casing , it might be plugged by magma quicky, and nothing accomplished ...

I doubt that the rough-necks could get cheap insurance, however ....

I think it was in the 80's a basalt dyke formed in Iceland which intersected a geothermal steam plumbing casing ... magma came shooting up the casing, where the casing did a right angle turn the Magma blew a hole in the elbow joint .. it was first ever case of a man made volcano ... the casing got plugged with magma quickly after ejecting a ton or 2 of material ... I saw a picture of it once .. U could probably find it online with Google somewhere ...

[edit on 9/1/09 by geogeek]

I found a reference to this sort of thing in Hawaii
news.bbc.co.uk...

www.smm.org...

This BBC article tells of how people in Iceland are drilling into a volcano for more information, but they give the impressions that it is a 'vented' volcano or low pressure due to tectonic spreading of the region.

news.bbc.co.uk...

Supposedly the Iceland accident happened in 1985 but I've yet to find a article on it

Moshpet

Originally posted by quakewatcher
Well, forget what I said about the earthquakes showing up right away, they are definitely reviewing them first.

Last one currently reported at 12:47:41 mountain time, at a 1.7. Looking at later events at YMP there are at least 2 of a similar magnitude and 2 smaller ones since then. Last one at 16:08:something.

If there are too many they will likely stack up again and the map won't be updated for a while.



[edit on 9-1-2009 by quakewatcher]

Berry Berry Stwange...quieted down they say but we've seen dozens of revisions today...from all over even...haven't even got all the old ones sorted out yet let alone the new ones + censering...amazing...don't think I'll be posting/linking many of the "newbie" quakes anymore...waste on thread