Whats going on at yellowstone?

Originally posted by justsomeboreddude

I do not believe the earth and moon have magnetic pull on each other. The pull is purely gravitational so it wouldnt matter whether the substance was magnetic or not.

I agree that gravity has an effect on the earth, and the moon's effect is not magnetic in nature.

But, if gravity has an effect on liquid rock (gravitational tidal forces), then the effect is still detectable. No?

darn you mind crime - you made me open a beer.


[edit on 1/9/2009 by startx.jeff]

hi all.

im an active reader of ats who just now decided to finally join.

ive been following this thread for a while and i was wondering if anyone can say anything about what to look for if this event is turning really serious.

as i understand it, the swarm is not a reason for concern .. yet, as they have occurred before. however in theory it could be the supervolcanoes first stages of erruption.

what would be the next thing to happen if these are the first stages of erruption ?

This might help you. It is on Romania but a simular plate scinario exists there :


adsabs.harvard.edu...


"High-resolution teleseismic body-wave tomography beneath SE ...
High-resolution teleseismic body-wave tomography beneath SE Romania - I. ... It is well suited for the correction of teleseismic traveltime residuals, ..."

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High-resolution teleseismic body-wave tomography beneath SE Romania - I. Implications for three-dimensional versus one-dimensional crustal correction strategies with a new crustal velocity model

Martin, M.; Ritter, J. R. R.
Geophysical Journal International, Volume 162, Issue 46, pp. 448-460.
The CALIXTO (Carpathian Arc Lithosphere X-Tomography) experiment offers a dense, high-quality data set to study the lithospheric/asthenospheric system underneath SE Romania, an earthquake-prone region in SE Europe. To increase the image resolution of structures in the uppermost mantle, the application of crustal traveltime corrections by a priori information before the teleseismic traveltime inversion has become a well-accepted procedure. For such a correction we present a regional 3-D crustal seismic velocity model that serves as the basis for a high-resolution teleseismic tomography (forthcoming paper by Martin et al.). Our 3-D crustal model is based on recent research in the region. We collect new results from two long-range seismic refraction lines, 3-D refraction tomography and teleseismic Ps conversions. Adding previously published models of the sediment distribution, Conrad and Moho depths, as well as crustal seismic P-wave velocities, we compile a 3-D crustal model for SE Romania. This 3-D model does not contain shallow small-scale heterogeneities (

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off topic...

It seems a bit quiet now so allow me to say :" welcome chacana!!!
and have a nice time here. Beer is in the fridge. It's self-service so help yourself and i'm sure within a few minute somebody will post the thread by sagetukey with all the goody info"

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A teleseism is a technical term for "distant earthquake".
By the way, I suggest people to open GEE, then add the WY network in the Station Chooser and then monitor the YPC station's EHZ channel (which is not included in the webicorder page). It's almost in the middle of the "action", and catches even the smallest earthquakes occurring beneath there.

European Geosciences Convention Vienna, Austria (April 19-24 2009)
Volcanology subsections:

Anybody really desperate to find latest thinking on the subject, want to see Europe at the same time ??? (and direct those questions to the real knowledge sources on volcanism , face to face )

topics:
files.abovetopsecret.com...

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Originally posted by operation mindcrime
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off topic...

It seems a bit quiet now so allow me to say :" welcome chacana!!!
and have a nice time here. Beer is in the fridge. It's self-service so help yourself and i'm sure within a few minute somebody will post the thread by sagetukey with all the goody info"

iam hurt nobody welcome me and iv been here since the 3rd,iv added abit helpfull infor i hope

Originally posted by severdsoul

It is possible, there have been many quakes after the Super Moon,
the increased magnetic pull will effect things.. i'm not saying that it will
for sure, but its defiantly a possibility.

Many earthquake prediction sites and blogs use various methods to try and guess where the next event might occur. Some of those methods include AWOL pets, tide charts, recent activity, and weather patterns. Some, like weather patterns, seem to make a little sense.

For instance, the day the Northridge earthquake occurred, there was a high pressure system over the area. The air was perfectly still, not even a slight whisp of a breeze, it was strange, to say the least. Since the plates are just floating around, it just seems logical that anything that might cause changes in pressure could very well trigger something that was about to give anyway.

If the moon can cause the tide to rise and fall by several feet, it also makes sense that when it's closer to the earth, and it does result in higher tide levels than normal, there might be some influence there as well.




Peace

[edit on 9-1-2009 by lernmore]

Originally posted by alysha.angel

Originally posted by operation mindcrime
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off topic...


It seems a bit quiet now so allow me to say :" welcome chacana!!!
and have a nice time here. Beer is in the fridge. It's self-service so help yourself and i'm sure within a few minute somebody will post the thread by sagetukey with all the goody info"

iam hurt nobody welcome me and iv been here since the 3rd,iv added abit helpfull infor i hope

TO Alysha.angel
Oh , WElcome. Welcome.
I remember your concerns when you came in.
Sorrry , some times we get focused on other screens...

Or were you just fishing??? ummm tee hee

Really , HI!!

[edit on 9-1-2009 by Mushussu]

I am making too many typos now.
I'll check back in later

[edit on 9-1-2009 by Mushussu]

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Thanks for the info....how do you know all this stuff???....respect..

Just loaded GEE with the info you gave but it comes back with the message :" GEE's server are unavailable. Try again in a few minutes"

Guess i'll do that...

Originally posted by Penster
Has anyone checked this out yet? I pasted the link a long time ago. Has some good links (examples):

geomag.usgs.gov...
geomag.usgs.gov...

From:
METEOQUAKE
Earthquake Prediction: www.meteoquake.org...

I just did. Intuitively speaking,
there is some sort of magnetic pull that corresponds with the Y
pattern and other indicators people have raised here 4 sure.
I do think the moon has an effect also, some may think insignificate.
However relevant it is to our problem here, I'm not so sure. Dang it.
Only my .02$,.. worth only that.
Thank you for allowing me my speculations!
The plate movement thing is fascinating and a good indicator.
I think maybe the best to go on for now.
Oh, ya you guys probably know all that already.
Not being sarcastic just wish I had a degree in volcanology
and a few other sciences right now!

Originally posted by Mushussu

Originally posted by alysha.angel

Originally posted by operation mindcrime
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off topic...
TO Alysha.angel

It seems a bit quiet now so allow me to say :" welcome chacana!!!
and have a nice time here. Beer is in the fridge. It's self-service so help yourself and i'm sure within a few minute somebody will post the thread by sagetukey with all the goody info"

iam hurt nobody welcome me and iv been here since the 3rd,iv added abit helpfull infor i hope

Oh , WElcome. Welcome.
I remember your concerns when you came in.
Sorrry , some times we get focused on other screens...

Or were you just fishing??? ummm tee hee
f
Really , HI!!

[edit on 9-1-2009 by Mushussu]

iam learnig and iam trying to help add info at the same time.
its fasinating stuff

My short term memory kicked in and reminded me of the poster somewhere in this thread (RFBurns?) here earlier state that things would get interesting if there was a 5 or 6 type quake within 200 miles of YS...
Didn't California just have a similar EQ to which he warned about?

I notice USGS is updating right away again, including the "x" for unknown magnitude. (just saw a little one near long valley) The EQ map is acting more like it normally does, with quakes popping up as soon as they are detected.

To get all conspiracy-ish for a second, do you think it's possible the outgoing administration was trying to keep the Western states earthquake swarms kind of quiet, and the new admin will have more transparency?

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off topic...

whahaha...sorry to have stepped on your feelings Alysha. As mentioned before drinking beer and fridaynights bring out the sociale aspects in me and it was a bit quiet....but to be sure...Welcome everybody (boy, this thread is getting better and better!!)

back on topic...

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yeah i also read that somewhere. it also stated that all of the energy released during this swarm is less than the energy released during a magnitude 5 earthquake.

so thats one good indicator. yet there have been more heavy earthquakes in yellowstone in the past (i wonder if these were ales during a swarm or if these were single events).

are there any other indicators that should start to ring alarmbells in case they occur ?

@Mushussu: thx for the welcome
@alysha.angel : welcome

[edit on 9-1-2009 by chacana]

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This would indicate subsision? Is that even a word?
In other words, the "slabs" being lubricated means
less friction, which means more unrestricted movement,
which from conclusion drawn after articles is possibly a
"dying" of the yellowstone hotspot.
All this is just heat and no boom?
Could that be a plausible theory?
By the way, I love the ideas: startxjeff, alyshaangel!
Others, thanks! D

Originally posted by quakewatcher
ITo get all conspiracy-ish for a second, do you think it's possible the outgoing administration was trying to keep the Western states earthquake swarms kind of quiet, and the new admin will have more transparency?

These are not my words but saw them in some article...

Late in the evening February 3, 2007, and early in the day February 4, 2007, stories started circulating that the 'silent' earthquake tremor traveling deep inside the subduction zone had suddenly stopped and the earthquake danger was over. Later in the day, February 4, 2007, Canadian news stories were once again circulating about an open window of increased earthquake activity for the southern part of British Columbia.

One of the troubling parts about the news story, is that there is hardly any mention of the risk facing areas in the U.S. It appears the media in the U.S. is being silenced; being told not to carry the story. Those in the Pacific Northwest, on the United States side, are equally at risk should a GREAT earthquake strike the region, yet, the American people for the most part are not being told about the heightened risk they are facing.

Is pressure being put on the Canadian geological services to silence, or lessen the danger risk? It has happened in the past with other geological services, such as the European Mediterranean Seismological Centre, so it is possible with Canada.

There are a lot of 'jack boots' working for the U.S.G.S. and the U.S. Government these days, and they don't like it when one of the other geological services says and does things that don't conform with the 'god-like' manner (we are superior to you attitude) of the U.S.G.S.

Funny in 2007 they had the same problem with USGS....is this leading somewere??

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hey there operation mindcrime.

the situation at yellowstone was on the front page of a free morning newspaper here in the netherlands.

the newspaper is called spits: www.spitsnieuws.nl...

its in dutch so that should be fun to read for you guys !

i cant seem to find the article on the web version of the newspaper however.

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[edit on 9-1-2009 by chacana]

Originally posted by alysha.angel

Originally posted by operation mindcrime
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off topic...

It seems a bit quiet now so allow me to say :" welcome chacana!!!
and have a nice time here. Beer is in the fridge. It's self-service so help yourself and i'm sure within a few minute somebody will post the thread by sagetukey with all the goody info"

iam hurt nobody welcome me and iv been here since the 3rd,iv added abit helpfull infor i hope

Um, I didn't quite thank ya personally but I just wrote I thought
you had a great idea! I have enjoyed you as others.
No one here is any better than the next guy, or gal.
Ya, more beer in the fridge, whatever, it's all good.
We are still here!

Dont let the name fool ya, Im here for the long haul!
Welcome, thank you and nice ta meet chya! D

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