Whats going on at yellowstone?

Right now, I'm wondering how much good a compass would really be in an emergency pack!! Makes me wonder if it's just added weight!! Thanks for responding & confirming that it's not just our compasses that are not showing true north at the moment. Might not be the best time to get lost & have to rely on it to get back out of the woods, huh?

Scientists find hole in Earth's magnetic field

Wed Dec 17, 7:07 am ET

news.yahoo.com...

...and then of course there is “Nibiru”

Jackson Hole elk migration habits have changed this year due in part to good forage, light snowfall and a new hunt on the south end of the National Elk Refuge, biologists say.

By Dec. 18, wildlife managers counted 3,600 elk on the south end of the refuge, and 70 percent of radio-collared elk likely to winter on the refuge had arrived.
That’s compared with last year, the first year of the south unit hunt, when 4,500 elk and 85 percent to 90 percent of radio-collared elk had arrived by mid-December.

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And then from 2004 to 2006 the central caldera floor rose faster than ever, springing up nearly 7 inches during the three-year span.

What the researchers think is happening, on a short-term basis at least, is that the bulging Yellowstone hotspot north of the Tetons is pushing against the north edge of Jackson Hole and jamming it against the mountains. (This is also causing the southwest part of the Yellowstone plateau, under the hotspot, to slide downhill at a rate of one-sixth of an inch each year.).

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Hmm... Can elk read? Also, how are they confident about the causes behind the elks changed migration habit this year? I mean how long did it take before we figured out the link to boiling water and dead germs?

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Very true! Well unless the Earth itself re-orients itself on its axis or rotates backwards, we can still rely on star navigation and know that the sun rises in the east, sets in the west, and north is 90* up from west, south is 90* down from east.


Cheers!!!!

How fast is the hotspot moving under Yellowstone?

Actually, the source of the hotspot is more or less stationary at depth within the Earth, and the North America plate moves southwest across it. The average rate of movement of the plate in the Yellowstone area for the last 16.5 million years has been about 4.6 centimeters annually. However, if shorter time intervals are analyzed, the plate can be inferred to have moved about 6.1 centimeters per year from 16.5 million years ago until about 8 million years ago, then slowed to 3.3 centimeters a year for the past 8 million years.

If this is correct then the chamber has been leaving a weakened trail to the south-west for quite sometime and might support the "Trail Theory".
Someone better at math than me would have to do the calculations to gauge what kind of distances are involved.
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How large is the magma chamber that is currently under Yellowstone?

The magma chamber is believed to be about 40 by 80 kilometers across, similar in size to the overlying Yellowstone caldera. The top of the chamber is about 8 km deep and the bottom is around 16 km deep. However, the chamber is not completely filled with fluid magma. It contains a partial melt, meaning that only a portion of the rock is molten (about 10 to 30%); the rest of the material is solid but, of course, remains hot.

Being as the top of the chamber is 8km deep, doesn't sound like you'd need deep events to fracture the crust and create a chimney if it was under enough pressure. I do see several 7+km around 12-30 weak events.

volcanoes.usgs.gov...

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If we ever get clear sky's again in Washington I will let you know what I see. I got a telescope for xmas and I have been wanting to play with it.

I never did see that post you were gonna make. Did you give up or did I miss it?

Agree to everything said above pretty much - Compass, stars, animals, nibiru..
Nibiru is still a touchy subject that's been danced around somewhat, noone wants to come right out on that without (at least in my case) more looking into that possibility. Many debunkers claim it doesn't exit. Myself? Don't know yet.

Originally posted by RFBurns
I too have noticed my compasses not indicating proper north, especially over the last 3 days. Tho I was not sure to mention it when I proposed my theory of something outside is causing the geological activity because I did not have enough information yet to know for sure. But now with compass manipulation confirmation by another member, it raises more suspecion that something is making the magnetic field "shift" in some manner, and that can cuase the geological activity we are seeing, but there has to be something causing the shifting, that leads me to the outside influence theory.

To add..has anyone else noticed that unusually very bright star in the early evening that hangs at about the 2 o-clock position? Of course it will appear at a different position depending on where you are located, but here in Casper Wy, that bright star is prominent and clearly much much brighter than the other stars that show up in the evening.

That Star is massive. Sometmes is appears so bright, it shines through my curtains. No other stars do that.

I've just been reading on NASA site the Sun flipped it's poles recently, a Solar maximum.

I just checked my compass, and north is slightly off, but to tell the truth I'm not certain about this. Hmm ... how come though when I bring it into the room with my computer it's pointing east? It's pointing to my left when north is behind me. Maybe the computer is affecting it. I just tried another room, and it's N-NE. Is there such thing as a crap compass that would give an inaccurate reading? Mine seems to be a decent one.



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The geese don't know where to go this year either....

Have you heard about that some where ? Where ? I am very curious !!

Last friday in north west NM I saw 5 fair sized flocks fly over the only time iI have seen that before is when there was a early spring or late winter usually now is not the flight time for them going over our area . I just thought may be they were forced from there regular area .

Originally posted by whoshotJR
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If we ever get clear sky's again in Washington I will let you know what I see. I got a telescope for xmas and I have been wanting to play with it.

I never did see that post you were gonna make. Did you give up or did I miss it?

I was going over several years of collected data from the various probes and observations by NASA on the solar system changes taking place on the planets, their warming up and they found strange hexagon patterns at the poles of Jupiter, Saturn and some of their moons, as well as hexagon patterns in the hurricane storms eye of recent ones.

Here is one from hurricane Isabel in 2003. Not exactly the normal circular eye pattern.



My theory was that something is causing this solar system wide influence, perhaps a large mass passing nearby or through the solar system, and this recent geological activity and magnetic field breaches might be just a small sign of this proposed mass passing nearby, or going through the system. Nibiru? I cant say that is what it is or is not. But right now, I dont rule it out.



Cheers!!!!

Originally posted by RFBurns
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To add..has anyone else noticed that unusually very bright star in the early evening that hangs at about the 2 o-clock position? Of course it will appear at a different position depending on where you are located, but here in Casper Wy, that bright star is prominent and clearly much much brighter than the other stars that show up in the evening.

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I Videotaped that star/planet? for 15 minutes one night - It was huge and bright and I could swear it was moving. But it wasn't. It was flickering. Crazy clear though.

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There was some graphs about 30 pages back that where showing new evidence that molten material has been getting injected into the caldera causing alot of the up growth of it in the recent decade. Alot of the meterial is still somewhat solid mind you just there is alot more molten material being added. It was believed that sooner or later it would have to create new chambers to hold it all. Perhaps this is what we have seen.
I for one have noticed that since the slow down in the EQ activity yesterday and today the geysers have been going off really good. I was watching them for about 2 hours ( yeah yeah its a nice scene) and saw no less than four really nice set offs. Two of them had a steam cloud that shot up at least 100 feet even with the wind blowing mildly. Perhaps this event was a way for more of the silica ladden water to be sent out of the caldera area? Allowing it to move along to the springs and geysers?

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Ya , I have. Couple days ago some flew around the field and then right over the house then headed west towards oregon like they were lost and trying to pick up the trail. I thought thats weird at the time and chalked it up to all this going on. Like I say I been watching these quakes in alaska for a long while then we they started hitting jellystone I thought, here we go!

Originally posted by spinkyboo
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I could swear it was moving. But it wasn't. It was flickering. Crazy clear though.

It wasn't moving, Earth was... I believe it's Venus..

I own this compass that I use on a lot of my nature hikes with my family, and it seems to be in working order.

The hexagon pattern found by Cassini probe using its IR thermal imager.



Source HERE

Another from the Cassini visual camera.



Source HERE



Cheers!!!!

Originally posted by Lostinthedarkness
reply to post by spinkyboo

 

The geese don't know where to go this year either....

Have you heard about that some where ? Where ? I am very curious !!

Last friday in north west NM I saw 5 fair sized flocks fly over the only time iI have seen that before is when there was a early spring or late winter usually now is not the flight time for them going over our area . I just thought may be they were forced from there regular area .

I took a road trip last month from California to Illinois - we actually filmed the geese because they were going the wrong way and moving late in the season - and frankly appeared confused. A couple days after I got home - Someone sent me a link about the geese not migrating normally - I will search through my frightening array of links - and try to find it for you.

This could possibly be HAARP related. Charging up the atmosphere - changing the nature of the magnetic field. Who knows?


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www.wunderground.com... wGrid=checked&ShowSkyLine=checked&ShowInfo=checked&Month=1&Day=5&Year=2009&Min=0&Hour=18&Redraw=Change

I agree...Venus...but alot of 'em up there now!

Originally posted by Pharyax

Originally posted by spinkyboo
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I could swear it was moving. But it wasn't. It was flickering. Crazy clear though.

It wasn't moving, Earth was...

I believe it's Venus..

Yes - I believe it probably was too.

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Could be. That can be verified by visiting this site where you can chart the star and planet positions for your location and time.

This bright star appears in the early evening. I plan on checking it tomorrow evening, around 6pm MST.



Cheers!!!!