Whats going on at yellowstone?

reply to post by 12.21.12


Advice RE: Evacuations: something I learned while living in the S E USA and experiencing hurricanes - the safest place to be during a natural disaster is HOME; the most dangerous place to be is on any highway with hundreds of people near panic and unprepared for the evacuation.

So, unless you live dangerously close to Yellowstone, stay home. If you are close to Y and an evacuation alert is released, you probably will be stuck in traffic when it actually blows up. I would prefer to die at home than on the hwy with a bunch of panic-stricken strangers.

reply to post by worldwatcher

Originally posted by worldwatcher
I recall a few pages back a few members were discussing water levels above normal in a lake or creek something along those lines... So it happens that I just stumbled on this article on Global warming is killing frogs, salamanders in Yellowstone Park posted back in October 2008 which states that some of the lakes and ponds were drying up. Could it be possible that heat generated from an awakening volcano underground was the culprit and not global warming?

A strange new fungus disease that kills frogs and toads and every other species of amphibian is spreading around the globe and -- combined with pollution and overdevelopment -- is driving more and more of the creatures to extinction, a coalition of the world's top biologists warns.

At least one-third of the world's known amphibians are threatened by the combination of attacks, and up to 122 species have become extinct within the past 25 years, the international team of specialists is reporting in today's edition of the journal Science.

"Amphibian declines and extinctions are global and rapid," 50 of the world's leading specialists on water-dwelling animals declared in a joint report. At least 427 species are "critically endangered," they said.

The effects are being felt in California's High Sierra, where Berkeley scientists found that the disease is rampant and killing yellow-legged frogs and Yosemite toads, whose populations already are being strained by development and pollution.


But the fungus, a unique species called Batrachochytrium dendrobatidis, could start taking on a larger role in the increasing extinction because of global warming, which scientists suspect is lowering amphibians' resistance to the disease.

The fungus was discovered in Australia and Panama only eight years ago and since then has spread across Europe and both the Americas, causing skin infections called chytrid disease in every amphibian species it attacks. The death rate from the infections is 100 percent, biologists have found. The disease, they concluded, "causes catastrophic mortality in amphibian populations, and subsequent extinctions."

Looks like a combination of things, but it appears to be worldwide.

Peace

Rather odd went and checked the water data and there has actually been an increase in the water available for discharge with a decline in 2007 that was about 400 lower than the previous year. I dont get how there could have been a drought if all that water was there to be discharged. Perhaps the areas she was looking at where up in the mountain ranges? Because there was obviously enough water at the floor.

Water Year 00060, Discharge, cubic feet per second 00065, Gage height, feet
Period-of-record for statistical calculation restricted by user
2005 1,121 3.458
2006 1,325 3.586
2007 904.2
2008 1,541

Originally posted by vBreezo
reply to post by 12.21.12

 

Advice RE: Evacuations: something I learned while living in the S E USA and experiencing hurricanes - the safest place to be during a natural disaster is HOME; the most dangerous place to be is on any highway with hundreds of people near panic and unprepared for the evacuation.

So, unless you live dangerously close to Yellowstone, stay home. If you are close to Y and an evacuation alert is released, you probably will be stuck in traffic when it actually blows up. I would prefer to die at home than on the hwy with a bunch of panic-stricken strangers.

Good advice. Unless you're like me. I live in an apartment and I'd rather die in nature up on my little mountain here in the place I love. So, I suppose it's all up to the individual where they choose to make their stand.
Even then it's only a new beginning

reply to post by maeveoc


That would be great if you get a chance to compile that

I'm surprised they don't have it available on their site.

Well if FOXE's theory about the tides having a hand in the EQ activity it should start picking up in the next 35 minutes to 1 hour....

Originally posted by xoxo stacie
Well if FOXE's theory about the tides having a hand in the EQ activity it should start picking up in the next 35 minutes to 1 hour....

Wow...
I was just thinking how things calm down right now and pick up again at 1:00 MST which is in one hour. I was just writing a post to pose a question about that. I've definitely seen it. There's always a lull right now both in conversation (it's bedtime) and EQ activity. Right about 1:00 or 1:30 it picks up. I should spend some time to back that with hard data but it's late But I heartily agree, that trend crossed my mind 2 nights ago.

Thanks for the insight.

Originally posted by SixNine

Originally posted by MischeviousElf
Ok as its ATS and as a personal belief too we need to deny Ignorance.

Yellowstone does have a lot of activity in this one area, which is very unusual and concerning.

There is no fancy gadget that we can play with atm which shows that (that I know of anyway), so it looks like we may have to wait until they get around to telling us.

[edit on 2-1-2009 by SixNine]

Actually we are able to monitor the deformation via GPS, you can find that information located here YellowstoneContin when you get to this page take some time to digest the information below the map and then click on the LKWY link to the left and that will take you to the latest GPS readings for that station which are updated regularly as the sattelite goes over. You will notice that there has been a dramatic uplift over the past several years. I have not been able to find a way to drill down past the yearly data (yet) if anyone know if that is possible I would love to learn.

Namaste,

Maeve

So... I haven't read all of this thread... but I just got the information I needed to know...

My question is this...




If Yellowstone errupted... Would it just wipe out America? Or would it wipe out the planet?

I am in Casper WY and following this interesting topic. Thank you to everbody for keeping this thread informative and factual and avoiding raising unnecessary fears. Everything is normal here as I hope it will stay. My only input is that we don't want to cause fear and panic. My opinion is that the quakes are caused by the crust over the magma chamber shifting as the pressure below increases. The pressure can continue to increases or it can subside. The magma is not rising to the surface. There is solid rock above it. Right now it is just interesting to watch and it is to early for even vulcanolgists to say what, if anything, will make it's way to the surface. Keep the good information coming.

I have monitored the USGS waterdata pages for quite some time here in Ohio and I have always been amazed at how rapidly a little bit of precipitation translates to increased water levels and discharge rate. In order to gauge deformation based on waterflow or discharge you would have to be able to find previous instances which had the same starting water level, the same temperature, the same level of ground saturation and roughly the same amount of precipitation. Only then could you begin to see any sort of deviance from normal and begin interpreting these patterns as ground deformation. Given the number of variables I would assume the GPS deformation information would be a much more accurate picture.

Has anyone been able to convince lidar to look through ice yet

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Could be anything from shucking out a peanut, to a global killer.
Nobody knows. Really, they don't............

Okay... this is the best video that can answer my question.

Looks like it would pretty much destroy the U.S...

I'm just wondering about the rest of the world.

Originally posted by Windycity
I am in Casper WY and following this interesting topic. Thank you to everbody for keeping this thread informative and factual and avoiding raising unnecessary fears. Everything is normal here as I hope it will stay. My only input is that we don't want to cause fear and panic. My opinion is that the quakes are caused by the crust over the magma chamber shifting as the pressure below increases. The pressure can continue to increases or it can subside. The magma is not rising to the surface. There is solid rock above it. Right now it is just interesting to watch and it is to early for even vulcanolgists to say what, if anything, will make it's way to the surface. Keep the good information coming.

Thank you windy we where actually discussing that earlier and the fact that a new geyser or hot spring forming was a more likely scenario, due to the data we had found.

Originally posted by Doomsday 2029
So... I haven't read all of this thread... but I just got the information I needed to know...

My question is this...




If Yellowstone errupted... Would it just wipe out America? Or would it wipe out the planet?

Most of what I have seen suggests the initial eruption would not come close to destroying America. The big issue is the amount of aerosols it would put in the atmosphere. Even small volcanoes can have effects on weather and there have been a number which have caused long bouts of global cooling. There are some who theorize that if Y goes supervolcano again it could begin another ice age. Grab a few pelts, a club and get that spear arm back in shape and you will be just fine ..or are we going to try and start by crafting bowls and go for full agrarian this time around?

reply to post by Doomsday 2029


RRREEELLLAAAXXX
Due to the data we have all been looking at it doesnt even look close enough to be a volcanic eruption. At the very worst it could go south and be a hydrothermal which doesnt even have "lava" or "ash" in it. Just one heck of a big boom and a new crater to fill with water.,

Originally posted by MrBill2u

Originally posted by Doomsday 2029
So... I haven't read all of this thread... but I just got the information I needed to know...

My question is this...




If Yellowstone errupted... Would it just wipe out America? Or would it wipe out the planet?

.or are we going to try and start by crafting bowls and go for full agrarian this time around?

This has my vote

Originally posted by maeveoc

Originally posted by SixNine

Originally posted by MischeviousElf
Ok as its ATS and as a personal belief too we need to deny Ignorance.

Yellowstone does have a lot of activity in this one area, which is very unusual and concerning.

There is no fancy gadget that we can play with atm which shows that (that I know of anyway), so it looks like we may have to wait until they get around to telling us.

[edit on 2-1-2009 by SixNine]

Actually we are able to monitor the deformation via GPS, you can find that information located here YellowstoneContin when you get to this page take some time to digest the information below the map and then click on the LKWY link to the left and that will take you to the latest GPS readings for that station which are updated regularly as the sattelite goes over. You will notice that there has been a dramatic uplift over the past several years. I have not been able to find a way to drill down past the yearly data (yet) if anyone know if that is possible I would love to learn.

Namaste,

Maeve

hrm

quake.wr.usgs.gov...

Originally posted by mrsdudara
A lot of people have been talking about when a warning might be. The USGS will NOT issue a warning of any sort until ash starts flying. They absolutly will not evacuate until they are 100% sure of an immanant eruption, within a certin amount of time, about 24 hours a head of time. Even then, they are only allowed to evacuate the areas that will be greatly effected. Like, burried under lava. If they evacuate too soon, or give a warning when nothing happens, they are subjected to law suites. On the other hand, if they do not issue an evacuation for the right areas, in a quick and effeciant way as to save the lives of everyone at risk, they could be sued as well. BUT if they claim the didnt know, they dont get sued at all.

Yellowstone is a mystery. It could burp or it could destroy half of the states. There is nothing certin about Yellowstone at all.

My point?

They are not going to warn us. If they do, they will be held responsible for everything that happens afterwards.

Nobody can sue the USGS or Homeland Security FEMA etc.

Those orgs are like cities and are exempt from lawsuits. You can only sue them if there is malicious intent like if they said HAHAHA everyone is going to die if we don't tell them, now the Indians will be fried and we can take their land. Just an off the wall example of malicious intent. The USGS is not malicious and will tell us the second they are sure. If it is too late to bad.

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So its been going up and down? Not to sure due to the lack of headers. Almost looks like its filling up then spewing it out with those kinds of numbers.