Whats going on at yellowstone?

Has anyone else noticed that the time stamp on the usgs site is totaly screwed up???



Also, I thought they decided that if yellowstone were to erupt, they would not put out an alert? Am I remembering wrong?

reply to post by Not Authorized


Your picture is not an exposed seismograph - it's a radio antenna (GPS).

The actual instrument in under the surface, look in the lower left of your photo

reply to post by Not Authorized


Maybe because most of these earthquakes are shallow. The large ones always show up on everything.

Originally posted by twitchy
Not Authorized, you do know that the USGS and FEMA, and the MSM is calling this a swarm of EARTHQUAKES, right? I think they would probably know the difference between wind and earthquakes, even if we ignorant folk don't.
Geez...

I'm talking about the supposed harmonics. Again. YUF shows NO harmonics.

Is it a swarm? Yep it is -- and a good one too. But it's tectonic. Go look at YUF that has NO noise and look for yourself.

You can see the same thing at the cascades at various times.

reply to post by dustystrings

Relax, some poster's here are a little bit to sceptic/stu***.
This thing is gonna make a loud boom soon.
And a second one also, first de thermic kind boom and then the lava boom.
This is my scenario.

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Your link didn't work.. this one? theinterveners.org...


That looks nothing like what we are seeing.. YMMV

Ok, I have been keeping up with this thread since day one and kept rather quiet. A lot of you have been very informative, thanks for the work. I decided to sign up and post because of the last wind theory statement. You do not have to look very hard to find that the wind theory is just plain nonsense. Do you think all the specialists are looking at information that could be made irrelevant due to wind? It's just absurd. That is my 2cents, I will now continue my humble reading and progression of the thread and be quiet.

www.quake.utah.edu...

^^^^^^ so you are saying that this is all wind? (click the link)

Without this thread, so many people would be ignorant to what is going on in Yellowstone. for that a Huge thanks to you all.

Also, its worth mentioning that there will certainly be government shills here trying to debunk this info. Well afterall, the thread has left them all standing as far as open info is concerned. If the views of those in here are correct it must be a huge pain in the **s to those trying to keep it under wraps.

Respects

Originally posted by iamcamouflage
reply to post by beefytee

 

In the event of an eruption, would jet streams be a good indicator of where the plume of smoke and ash will travel? Anyone know what the jet steam looks like over Yellowstone? Where will this cloud be carried? Directly west, towards Michigan and New England coast? North into canada? South towards the carolinas?

Jet Stream most likely to head northeast as always

Originally posted by captiva
Also, its worth mentioning that there will certainly be government shills here trying to debunk this info.

I can certainly remember "RussianScientist" or something like that.

One of the lamest tries I saw during this thread's evolution.

Yellowstone Earthquakes: Supervolcano Update
January 02, 2009 03:31 PM ET

A Yellowstone earthquake update:

1) The rumbling continues, including 3.5, 3.0 and 3.2 quakes just today

At 11:32 this morning a 3.5 magnitude earthquake was reported 38 miles east southeast of West Yellowstone, Mont., in Yellowstone National Park — the latest in a swarm of earthquakes that has hit the area in the past week.

The 3.5 tremor was followed this afternoon by a 3.2 magnitude quake at 12:40 and a 3.0 at 1:15.

[edit on 2-1-2009 by violet]

reply to post by dustystrings


It looks like nothing we are seeing. We see this activity no matter how little or how much wind there is. Last night winds were 9 miles/hour - looks the same now as it did then. We don't see variations over time due to changes in wind speed.

It makes no sense to call this wind.

Anyone monitoring or noticed the swarm style graph happening under Mirror Lake. If not then very impressive to view. There hasn't been a press release from Jellystone since the 29th and then it was considered unusual for its duration and makeup. Is Magma moving? Is that the constant rumbling reading?
Wha'da heyy i'dat? Constant 1.5 quaking?

It's heavy! WOOO HOOO!
The best to all this year!! Let's get it together individually and together.

Originally posted by Mushussu
"If and when there is an actual Alert it will come from either FEMA, Homeland security and USGS."

I would hope you are right.
However, having been with this thread lo these many days, and the thoughts that have traveled around here about FEMA and Homeland, my best bets are with USGS if they can break away and stand on their own thoughts.

I'm going to try and call Wyoming Homeland Security again today, their office is here in town. Hopefully I'll get more than an answering machine like last time. I'd like to find out what their plans are regarding public warnings. Dividing my time between makin a buck and staying informed.

Via USGS alert emails - received 10 minutes apart:

2009-01-02 20:37:18 (Mw 7.0) SANTA CRUZ ISLANDS -11.5 166.3
2009-01-02 20:37:18 DELETED: (M 7.0) SANTA CRUZ ISLANDS -11.5 166.3
***This event has been deleted after review by a seismologist.***

The thickness plots...

I've made an updated version of the timelapse video I posted before.

This animation shows vertically the DEPTH of represented earthquakes. North is at the left of the screen. The maximum number of EQs shown at the same time is 100. Earthquakes appear to occur at northern latitudes and shallower depths as time passes.

Here's on youtube:



And here's a high-quality downloadable version.

[edit on 2009/1/2 by Shirakawa]

Originally posted by Not Authorized

Originally posted by TwiTcHomatic
reply to post by spinkyboo

 

I do believe those are harmonic tremors as well, (magma is a-movin') and remember this type of event can last for days and weeks.

Sorry, I don't believe those are harmonic.

I too have watched the Webicorders for years, and to be blunt this is typical noise you'll see in wind locations, or exposed locations prior to and following a storm. After watching the Cascade webicorders for years (namely after the Mt Hood Swarm) I've learned my lesson in noise with webicorders. This type of 'movement' is quite normal in wind, or storms, or if the sensor is turned up a bit to high. I've seen it before many times and learned not to even bother with it if theres wind or storm conditions -- unless the webicorder shows that it's protected from the elements. To compound the noise problem, some recorders seem to kick up the sensitivity a notch for a few hours after a quake and then drop back down to normal.

The Upper Falls (YUF) webicorder gives a much clearer picture as to whats going on, and is closer to the epicenters of the swarm than the Mary Lake webicorder is. No one is looking at that one though, as it's not as sensational about proclaiming harmonic quakes because the YUF doesn't have lots of squiggly lines. The YUP one is showing tectonic quakes without the noise.

I've seen entire days of worse noise in the cascades during a storm. For minor examples, Crater Lake and Mt Hood should blow up too as the past week they had the same type of noise, and if you caught the big storm 2 weeks ago -- all of the cascades should be gone. Also more so you can even see the noise increasing prior to the quakes further west at the YPP webicorder, ie the wind picking up.

Not to take the wind out of everybody's sails, but you have to realize you're dealing with wind conditions of 23mph with 39mph gusts across one of the largest altitude freshwater lakes in America that is currently flat as a board by being frozen over. Plus a winter storm coming that will create a ton of noise on the recorders not protected to the elements. Speaking of which the LYWY seismograph is stationed in nothing more than a concrete pillar. Want proof? Here's the seismograph from utah edu itself:



Please tell me you don't think that the wind isn't effecting it?

Last night a guy posted a picture of the LYWY seismograph from the UoU and it was a cement case over a bore hole that went down 500 feet and the seismograph was at around 300 feet underground.

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Thanks .
I remember you saying you would check.

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Gee, ya might get to ask him about it. If Mr. Sanders is still CEO at Lone Star Natural Gas he's got an email invitation to join us here. I've been doing a little research on him and I think he is no dummy.