Whats going on at yellowstone?

reply to post by sad_eyed_lady


SEL,

This is a great little video for those of us who have not been to Yellowstone (yet). The scenes really "bring home" the volatile character of the park. He suggests that the Yellowstone "hotspot" is the remnant of the of massive volcanic activity on Pangea which led to the Permian extinction event (the largest in the history of the planet), 500 million years ago. He is the first person I have heard suggest that this ancient vulcanism was due to a metorite impact - interesting. Out of curiosity I will try to find out if that portion of North America was once the area of Pangea which underwent the massive eruptions.

Thanks.

reply to post by Not Authorized

Not to take the wind out of everybody's sails, but you have to realize you're dealing with wind conditions of 23mph with 39mph gusts across one of the largest altitude freshwater lakes in America that is currently flat as a board by being frozen over. Plus a winter storm coming that will create a ton of noise on the recorders not protected to the elements. Speaking of which the LYWY seismograph is stationed in nothing more than a concrete pillar. Want proof? Here's the seismograph from utah edu itself: external image Please tell me you don't think that the wind isn't effecting it?

Have you looked here? theinterveners.org...

Tell my why 5 years of archived data from multiple areas of YVO don't have wind contamination please?

[edit on 2-1-2009 by dustystrings]

reply to post by Not Authorized


Thanks for clearing that up. Are there any pictures of the YML station?

So most likely the increased activity happening at Mary Lake's just a consequence of strong winds?

reply to post by TXTriker


I'm not sure...but if he is just a private geologist...then they better get a USGS one and make it official!

Originally posted by beefytee

Originally posted by SevenandFive
reply to post by iamcamouflage

 

Jet stream:

www.wunderground.com...

right to washington DC...THE SUPERVOLCANO IS A TERRORIST!!!

*Edit*

OH!!!
Ha-ha-ha!!!





[edit on 1/2/09 by SevenandFive]

[edit on 1/2/09 by SevenandFive]

reply to post by beefytee


Hahaha, that made me laugh

I bet the terrorists are causing it to go off...they outsmarted us this time!

somebody has the link to the magmachamber that wa posted in earlyer posts..that on with the red square in it..

reply to post by TXTriker


So,
are we hearing the familiar words of any scary movie...
"Get....out!"

I've been following the USGS and Yellowstone data since it started as well....this guy Chris Sanders...it MUST be noted that HE IS NOT A REPRESENTATIVE of USGS.

His state of emergency page looks nearly identical to the actual USGS page HOWEVER the USGS has NOT put out any alerts thus far.

Mr. Sanders is providing some awesome information (although his Giraldo Rivera impersonation is grossly overacted LMAO)

If and when there is an actual Alert it will come from either FEMA, Homeland security and USGS.

I point this out only to hopefully prevent a mass panic...BUT if I lived there I'd be packing personally.

USGS

Kudos to all who've been adding info and following intensely.

Has GEE come back online yet? I tried to get it open and the server error notice froze it....

Originally posted by LoneInDarkness
reply to post by Not Authorized

 

Maybe wind would cause some noise but not the kind we are seeing. We have already discussed the wind possibility. What we are seeing on the graphs is by far not wind.

Then maybe you can explain why YUF shows absolutely no harmonics, and is closer to the swarm than other more exposed seismographs? Apparently you didn't' look at the external picture of the exposed seismograph at Lake Yellowstone.

Quick answer: Because YUF is not exposed to the elements and shows techtonic movement only. The same with the Old Faithful recorder located in the visitor center there.

www.seis.utah.edu... _SHZ_WY.2009010200.gif


But hey, don't take my word for it. How about those that run the thing?

"Station BTU at Barney Top, Utah is sensitive to wind. This is several night-time hours of wind generated noise. Station ICU in Indian Springs Canyon, Utah and some of the Yellowstone National Park stations are also sensitive to wind. "

www.quake.utah.edu...


hmmm, some seismo's there sensitive to wind AND 39 mph gusts. Doesn't take a scientist to figure that one out.

reply to post by TXTriker


It seems like he is in fact a private geologist that also dabbles in medicinal marijuana and biofuels. Seems odd, he may have the credentials, but it doesn't seem like he has the expertise. In my own opinion anyway. The majority of the photos on his page are pot leaves so I personally think twice before saying his warning is worth heeding.

Sorry if this has been posted

A Spurt of Quake Activity Raises Fears in Yellowstone

This activity could have a whole range of consequences. In a study released last year, the United States Geological Survey said possible hazards could include hydrothermal explosions, when steam breaks through the surface and forms a crater. That has happened 26 times in the park's 127 years of record-keeping.

The USGS discounted chances for cataclysmic eruption of the caldera, noting that the hot, active magma chamber below Yellowstone has turned into "largely crystallized mush." But the same study also said: "Depending on the nature and magnitude of a particular hazardous event and the particular time and season when it might occur, 70,000 to more than 100,000 persons could be affected; the most violent events could affect a broader region or even continent-wide areas."

YVO's alert code for the Yellowstone caldera stands at green, but if it ever elevates to yellow or red based on seismic readings, Lowenstern says, "ultimately it's my reponsibility to put out alerts. The National Park Service and local officials would be reponsible for civil defense measures and evacuation plans. For now, life goes on. The system is generally automated, and a seismologist at the University of Utah is on call to make sure it's a real event, should it be anything unusual."

Time


[edit on 2-1-2009 by violet]

From Jan 22'nd until Jan 25 there was a blizzard in Yellowstone..

Google link here: /7rtev4

Blizzard is snow + wind..

The archived data from LKWY for the 22 is this...

theinterveners.org...

Where is the wind contamination? Where?



[edit on 2-1-2009 by dustystrings]

Not Authorized, you do know that the USGS and FEMA, and the MSM is calling this a swarm of EARTHQUAKES, right? I think they would probably know the difference between wind and earthquakes, even if we ignorant folk don't.
Geez...

Originally posted by xsamaelx
reply to post by Not Authorized

 

Thanks for clearing that up. Are there any pictures of the YML station?

So most likely the increased activity happening at Mary Lake's just a consequence of strong winds?

I agree with DustyStrings. If the geologists at YVO don't know how to prevent and/or filter out the effects of wind on their seismograph readings, then they don't deserve to be employed there. They review all events before official posting...

Originally posted by beaverg
reply to post by TXTriker

 

It seems like he is in fact a private geologist that also dabbles in medicinal marijuana and biofuels. Seems odd, he may have the credentials, but it doesn't seem like he has the expertise. In my own opinion anyway. The majority of the photos on his page are pot leaves so I personally think twice before saying his warning is worth heeding.

Agreed. It felt to me like he was trying to drive traffic to his site based on a warning he knew a lot of people were looking for validation on. Just my opinion.

Originally posted by dustystrings
reply to post by Not Authorized

 

Not to take the wind out of everybody's sails, but you have to realize you're dealing with wind conditions of 23mph with 39mph gusts across one of the largest altitude freshwater lakes in America that is currently flat as a board by being frozen over. Plus a winter storm coming that will create a ton of noise on the recorders not protected to the elements. Speaking of which the LYWY seismograph is stationed in nothing more than a concrete pillar. Want proof? Here's the seismograph from utah edu itself: external image Please tell me you don't think that the wind isn't effecting it?

Have you looked here? theinterveners.org...

Tell my why 5 years of archived data from multiple areas of YVO don't have wind contamination please?

[edit on 2-1-2009 by dustystrings]

Hey Look, it's wind. I didn't have to go back very far.

theinterveners.org... LKWY_SHZ_US.2007120100.gif

theinterveners.org... LKWY_SHZ_US.2007120200.gif

Shall I go find more?

"If and when there is an actual Alert it will come from either FEMA, Homeland security and USGS."

I would hope you are right.
However, having been with this thread lo these many days, and the thoughts that have traveled around here about FEMA and Homeland, my best bets are with USGS if they can break away and stand on their own thoughts.

reply to post by dustystrings


It's amazing how you guys prove your point with solid evidence. It seems like the guy posting his wind theory won't post again =) .