US Army Ready If The Downturn Gets Out Of Hand!

US ARMY READY IF THE DOWNTURN GETS OUT OF HAND!

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ARE you afraid that the eco nomic downturn could get out of hand? I mean, really out of hand?
Well, don't worry.
The US Army War College is on the case - ready to handle "unforeseen economic collapse" and the "rapid dissolution of public order in all or significant parts of the US."
And you thought we were just dealing with a recession!
In a report published Nov. 4 - just in time for the holiday season - the War College's Strategic Studies Institute posited a number of shocks that the country should be prepared for, including unrest caused by the economy's failure.
The report has a snappy title, "Known Unknowns: Unconventional 'Strategic Shocks' in Defense Strategy Development," and was written by Nathan Freier, a visiting professor at the college. The foreword was written by Col. John A. Kardos, director of the Peacekeeping and Stability Operations Institute.
Freier lists a number of possible things we should worry about - because we probably don't have enough of our own - including run-of-the-mill terrorism and the fact that China and Russia could align against us politically and economically.
"Some of the most plausible defense-relevant strategic shocks remain low-probability events," Freier soft-pedals before going on to scare the hell out of us.
The War College says "widespread civil violence inside the US would force the defense establishment to reorient priorities in extremis to defend basic domestic order and human security."
Among things Freier wants us to worry about are "deliberate employment of weapons of mass destruction. . . unforeseen economic collapse, loss of functioning political and legal order, purposeful domestic resistance or insurgency and catastrophic natural and human disasters."
Oh, and by the way, have a Merry Christmas!

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[edit on 25-12-2008 by MemoryShock]

Wow! If you do not own a gun, buy one now! It is against the Constitution to turn our own military against our civilians. The Government and the bankers have caused our economy to collapse. I have to wonder if this was done on purpose, so a new currency can be introduced, and the North American Union would be force on our Country. I can actually see a civil war in this County. The insanity of all of this, we voted them in, to run and manage this Country, and what do they do, they run it right in the ground and loot the treasury and pass laws to destroy as much of our freedom as they can. You what to know why because they “can”. The reason for Martial law is to suppress you and strip away all your freedoms. Meanwhile the evil henchmen that our running our Country, can not get caught or held accountable for their actions. If anyone kicks in my door they can kiss their behind goodbye, I will fight this Tyrannical Government to the end, if this happens

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reply to post by Gonenuts
It may be unconstitutional to turn the military on US citizens, but Hoover did it, when he ordered the army to clean our the tent city that had sprund up from vets of WWI demanding the bonus that was promised to them. Due to the depression, they wanted it early. The army was led by Douglas McArthur. It is said that McArthur led the troops with unnecesssary "gusto." Several of the vets were killed and many more vets and their family members were injured. It has been done before, it can be done again. There is a difference now, however. The American people do not trust their government and will not hesitate to shoot first if it comes to it.

Not something I would want to know or imagine, but such consequences would be felt all over the world, and would indeed cause more than an civil unrest! We won`t recognize the world in a few years, it will certainly look and feel different!

I am already seen a change now! When I talk to people about President Bush they want to throw up, people are down right mad! People lives are already changing and their living standards are changing right now. We have not seen anything yet, this bubble is going to BUST

[edit on 25-12-2008 by Gonenuts]

Sigh.

The military plans for all contingencies. All of them. They even have plans for what to do in case Canada invades the United States.

This doesn't mean the military believes the much fantasized and hoped for economic apocalypse is likely - they plan for ALL events, no matter how unlikely they may be.

reply to post by LowLevelMason


Yes, just like they plan for in case of an alien invasion ect., no, if they plan/practise for something, it's because it is very feasable and is something that has high chances of it occuring.

Take it from someone who has friends and family on the inside.

-Lahara

The master is getting afraid of his growing dog.

Originally posted by TheRandom1
reply to post by LowLevelMason

 

Yes, just like they plan for in case of an alien invasion ect., no, if they plan/practise for something, it's because it is very feasable and is something that has high chances of it occuring.

Take it from someone who has friends and family on the inside.

-Lahara

As someone who has family and friends on the inside, you couldn't be more wrong.

It is the job of the War College to come up with plans for every single scenario that is plausible, no matter how unlikely. That a plan exists does not mean the event is likely to happen at all, only that it is within the realm of possibility.

It is POSSIBLE that Canada will invade the United States. Is it likely? No. Same principle.

reply to post by LowLevelMason


And you can prove that I'm wrong?

The NAU may have a Canadian US war, prove me wrong, go ahead, try your best to tell me that's it's not possible.

Anything is possible.

-Lahara

Originally posted by TheRandom1
reply to post by LowLevelMason

 

And you can prove that I'm wrong?

The NAU may have a Canadian US war, prove me wrong, go ahead, try your best to tell me that's it's not possible.

Anything is possible.

-Lahara

I cannot prove a negative - nice try though. You didn't really believe I'd fall for that old propaganda trick did you?

The NAU is not real, although if you like I can dig up other absurd scenarios that the War College plans for. I believe there is even one where African nations form a union and attack us. Are you going to come up with a conspiracy to explain that one too?

The War College is paid to come up with scenarios. Its what they do. Just because they come up with one having to do with an economy and we are currently in a recession does not mean the War College believes it is anymore likely than any other scenario they come up with.

[edit on 25-12-2008 by LowLevelMason]

When and if our government ever decides to use the army to quell a disturbance within our nation, it will be done quickly, swiftly, and promptly before anybody even knows what is happening. Even many of the soldiers themselves will be unaware of the situation. The War College is merely coming up with what ifs plans. And even if those plans were implemented, I am sure they would be modified depending on the situation. No matter how well they plan, something or somebody always throws a wrench in the plans. Nothing wrong with being prepared for unforeseen situations even if it includes plans within our own country.

reply to post by LowLevelMason


Really? I don't think you can prove that now can you, plus, I was asking you to prove your own statement originally.
You're the one claiming that these things aren't possible, not me, you are the one contradicting history and facts, not me.

Plus, are you really a low level mason? My cousin is a low level mason, he doesn't any more than what he's told, however, my uncle was a high level mason and worked on ufos.

You sound like a "low level" mason.

-Lahara

[edit on 25-12-2008 by TheRandom1]

Originally posted by TheRandom1
Really? I don't think you can prove that now can you, plus, I was asking you to prove your own statement originally.
You're the one claiming that these things aren't possible, not me, you are the one contradicting history and facts, not me.

Actually its up to you to prove your claims, not me. My claims are already proven if you cared to read the article:

"Some of the most plausible defense-relevant strategic shocks remain low-probability events."

There you go, point proven. You on the other had are attempting to contradict history and facts, while my point is on the side of history.

Originally posted by TheRandom1
Plus, are you really a low level mason?

Frankly this comes up far too often whenever I post on something. I assumed - wrongly - that most ATS members were intelligent enough to know that freemasonry has no real power and that there are no high or low level masons. I was, apparently, quite wrong. You would think the custom titles make it even more obvious that I am being sarcastic. I guess not.

No, I am not really a low level mason. There is no such thing. The name is a sarcastic comment on people who believe in such things. The reality is that all masons are on the same level, it is the entire point of the organization.

Originally posted by TheRandom1
My cousin is a low level mason, he doesn't any more than what he's told,

No, no hes not. There is no such thing.

Originally posted by TheRandom1
however, my uncle was a high level mason and worked on ufos.

No, no hes not. Just as there is no such thing as a low level mason, there is no such thing as a high level mason. Someone was pulling your leg.

Originally posted by TheRandom1
You sound like a "low level" mason.

You sound like "someone who will believe whatever they read regardless of what the facts say."

If you wish to further talk about freemasonry please start another thread. Lets keep on topic with this one.

[edit on 25-12-2008 by LowLevelMason]

i hope our military will do the right thing and resist any unconstitutional orders. i hope they remeber that they have much more in common with the average person of this country then the corrupt politicians and ahole bankers.

remember troops, the politicians send you all over the world to get chewed up by IED's and people who never wanted you in their country in the first place.

the people of america want you to be home with your families going about your lives peacefully. the people of america wish you were home this christmas with your families.

remeber who your true enemies are.

remeber to uphold the constitution from ALL enemies, foreign AND DOMESTIC...that may mean traitorous swine politicians who disreagard our voice and give 8.5 trillion to bankers.

reply to post by TheRandom1Your uncle was a highleve mason and worked on ufo's?
Okay, that's not a negative, that's a positive. Where's the proof, bub?

Originally posted by kettlebellysmith
reply to post by TheRandom1

 

Your uncle was a highleve mason and worked on ufo's?
Okay, that's not a negative, that's a positive. Where's the proof, bub?

A better question would be.

Why would a high level mason be an Aliens mechanic?

Did he get paid by the hour or was it a flat rate?

Did he offer a garuntee on parts and service?

When he finished the job did he do a test drive to make sure the tranny was operating smoothly?

OK, this thread is about US Army Ready If The Downturn Gets Out Of Hand!
and not how high anyone is up in Masonry.

Please stick to the topic.

The purpose of the Army War College is, and I quote... "To prepare selected military, civilian, and international leaders for the responsibilities of strategic leadership; educate current and future leaders on the development and employment of landpower in a joint, multinational and interagency environment; conduct research and publish on national security and military strategy;..."

Forgive me for my apparent treachery, however a lack of civil order which threatens the functionality and even existence (as we know it) of the Union is very much something the military needs to be concerned with. After all, the number one priority of the Military is to defend the homeland from all enemies, foreign and domestic. History has shown that certain crises permit a situation where it is not unconstitutional, morally reprehensible or ineffective to use the military for domestic purposes. A widespread and persistent brake down of order (much like in N.O. during/after Katrina) is not acceptable. Economic depression, natural or man made catastrophes and any other event which might act as a catalyst for lawlessness aside, there is no justification for anarchy. As such, should organic law enforcement capacity be exhausted the military should step in and help, it has done so in the past and will continue to do so in the future.


[edit on 25-12-2008 by WestPoint23]

reply to post by WestPoint23

Economic depression, natural or man made catastrophes and any other event which might act as a catalyst for lawlessness aside, there is no justification for anarchy.

if we define anarchy as "a state of lawlessness" or "disorder" then i would say giving 8.5 trillion to forieign bankers without the consent of the people is anarchy. we live in a state of anarchy where corrupt politicians and bankers rape the common man of this country.

to quote the declaration of independance:

"when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government"

id say our government right now is about as close to despotic as it gets. they are now facing off against the people. it is my sincere hope that our military sides with the people.

and to any troops who do decide to obey unlawful orders, remeber the nuremberg trial.