Why most people may not wake up! The Sad Truth

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Hey zysin5... great post! People like Pat really scare me. However, I will say this, just because he's an idiot that doesn't mean that believing in Christ is wrong. I follow Christ and I would NEVER kill in His name or anyone elses. Pat Robertson is one of the reasons I don't belong to any Church. I just read the Bible and try to live as Christ-like a life as possible. I fall short... let me tell you! BUT I would never think of hurting someone else or even suggesting the things Pat Robertson does.

I sure hope Robertson's supporters see that incredible video and learn the truth of this "man of God." You can take a simple test out there if you believe in God... if anyone suggests any type of harm to another person then you KNOW that person is not a believer in Christ. Even the ones that condemn people are wrong. Only God judges. The guys out there like Robertson who say gay people are going to hell are just wrong. It is not ours to judge, only God. Personally, I have a hard time seeing God throwing everyone into hell. My goodness! There wouldn't be anyone around in heaven. He's a God of love... remember?

Sorry, don't mean to sound preachy... I just hate it when predjudiced people like Pat Robertson get all this air time and people like Bill Reilly can attack a hero like Jeremy Glick and get away with it. What a brave man to go on Bill's show! I couldn't have done it!

Just one last thing and I'll shut up. A true follower of Christ loves everyone. Remember this people and you will be able to tell who His true followers are. And yes... I love Bill and Pat... I just don't respect them. Thanks again Zysin for great thread!

Simply amazing thread!! I never knew how bad Fox News makes us sound. They are just mad at us because we are catching on to their scheme. I never watch them, because they just didn't do it for me like CNN (although they may just be the lesser of two evils). Also, i had heard about the flu shots and fluoride [thanks to ATS], but never knew the specifics. I wonder, does a water filter (like those in a fridge or Brita water thingies) make it better? Also, when the day comes to get my child vac. (first i need to get married and have one lol) I will make a point to A. find a different kind of vaccine or B. just not give them one!

S'd&F'd!

The OP mentions pharmaceuticals in the water (because it is recycled sewage water). Just buy a water distiller for around $150 bucks, and drink pure H2O and NOTHING but H20.

Here it is, available from Ebay.
Problem solved!

Kenmore Water Purifier Distiller



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Originally posted by Alienmojo
reply to post by zysin5

 

However, I will say this, just because he's an idiot that doesn't mean that believing in Christ is wrong. I follow Christ and I would NEVER kill in His name

I sure hope Robertson's supporters see that incredible video and learn the truth of this "man of God."

Thanks again Zysin for great thread!

Greetings Alienmojo, And many thanks for understanding my point. I understand I come off a little strong with my stance on Christ and religion.
Im glad you are one of those good people who can see past the lies, and are umoung the many people of the Faiths who dont cause trouble for people of this world. You do your thing, help out a little, share some love, and let God sort it out.. If it works for you then great!
I dont sense you cramming that stuff down my throat to win some brownie points with your chosen God.
Religion can work. However thats not up for me to solve. Thats only for me to lay out so others can take a look at the current state of affairs and prehaps go back to the drawing board, and rethink their stances in life.
If one God calls for murder, or judgement of others, prehaps you are being mislead by a darker force.. Or lets call it unbalance.

Thank you for understanding the religious front to this thread as its mostly broken into 3 parts.. Posions, TV media propaganda, religion extreamist.

Im glad people can take what they need and leave the rest that may not suit their belifes.. We are all in this together, and compassion and understanding is key.

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Thanks Unknownfrost! Alot of this stuff is very old news to me, and I was lucky enough to find some newer videos so that I could compile much more of this info into one base thread.
Its taken me the past 5 to 6 years of solid reading and researching to come to where I am right now.
And yes it can consume a person, and become a side hobby. When Im not working to pay my slavery bills and keep up with the Rat race, I am reading.. Trying my best how to pick these invisible locks on my body and free myself. In turn that would free many others.
This information will lead you to other works, and information that will take you further until you have reached the point you to can make yourself heard, and known threwout the cyber texted world of zones like ATS.
Its just a matter of reading alot, watching alot of videos. If you had the time like I had, its something you can do in a few years time.
Granted Im a bit older man, and lived a very full and crazy lifestyle, to where I am content at sitting at home more often to just read. And get in some light writting from time to time on this and other sites.

I have reached this point where I had to make this thread, so myself I can get further... I already know and am humble enough to know I dont have the answers.. I do not hold the magical key of truth.
But I am looking, and I follow the smells, and sights. that bring me to where I am today.. I have alot of help here on ATS.
Without the ground work being laided, I couldnt have access to so many key names. Im always learning, and always adding to how much I can fight back vs this system of control.

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Great! That solves one of the 3 issues.. Now what do you suggest about Fox news, mind control propaganda, and Religion?

And the water filter is great for home use.. But what about the soda you drink.. Anything you use outside of your tap is full of these chemicals.
How does one filter the coke a cola one drinks with the posion in it?
Or brushing your teeth? How do you fliter the flouride in that?

Its never as simple as one could hope.. If it was simple we wouldnt be where we are now..

Zysin5:
You and most of the posters on this thread are so dead-on I was amazed that so many had the same thoughts.
If one hasn't read some of the writings of Amitakh Stanford, one should.
Her writings make the most sense to me as I have had similar ideas but did not know where they came from. I had not read about similar thoughts to mine until now.
These writings explain a lot of what is going on in the world today as well as what has happened in the past.
Here is the link. Enjoy reading these folks.
www.xeeatwelve.com...
Also read the "secret covenant" post below.

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I am stumped w/ this response. how long does it take for one to come off of this "dumbing down" affect you speak of?

A SECRET COVENANT

An illusion it will be, so large, so vast it will escape their perception.

King of Kings' Bible Rev 12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out to the earth, and his angels (you - Luke 9:55) were cast out with him (Matthew 25:41).

Those who will see it will be thought of as insane.

We will create separate fronts to prevent them from seeing the connection between us.

We will behave as if we are not connected to keep the illusion alive. *Our goal will be accomplished one drop at a time so as to never bring suspicion upon ourselves. This will also prevent them from seeing the changes as they occur.

* fabianism

We will always stand above the relative field of their experience for we know the secrets of the absolute.

We will work together always and will remain bound by blood and secrecy. Death will come to he who speaks.

We will keep their lifespan short and their minds weak while pretending to do the opposite.

We will use our knowledge of science and technology in subtle ways so they will never see what is happening.

We will use soft metals, aging accelerators and sedatives in food and water, also in the air.

They will be blanketed by poisons everywhere they turn.

The soft metals will cause them to lose their minds. We will promise to find a cure from our many fronts, yet we will feed them more poison.



From The Protocols of The Elders of Zion andProofs of an Ancient Conspiracy

In 1492, Chemor, Chief Rabbi of Spain received the following reply from the Grand Sanhedrin (Elders of Zion) to his plea for advice on how to deal with their threatened expulsion under Spanish Law; it illustrates well how the same ancient agenda was still being adhered to by the elect at this time:

'Beloved brethren in Moses (another lie), we have received your letter in which you tell us of the anxieties and misfortunes which you are enduring. We are pierced by as great a pain to hear it as yourselves.

The advice of the Grand Satraps and the Rabbis is the following:

1. As for what you say that the king of Spain obliges you to become Christians: do it, since you cannot do otherwise.

2. As for what you say about the command to despoil you of your property: make your sons merchants that they may despoil, little by little, the Christians of theirs.

3. As for what you say about making attempts on your lives: make your sons doctors and apothecaries (pharmacists/chemists), that they may take away Christian's lives.

4. As for what you say of their destroying your synagogues: make your sons canons and clerics in order that they may destroy their churches.

5. As for the other vexations you complain of: arrange that your sons become advocates and lawyers, and see that they always mix in affairs of State, that by putting Christians under your yoke you may dominate the world and be avenged on them.

6. Do not swerve from this order that we give you, because you will find by experience that, humiliated as you are, you will reach the actuality of power.
(Signed) Prince of the Jews of Constantinople'
(Julio-Inigrez de Medrano - 'La Silva Curiosa' 1608 my emphasis)

The poisons will be absorbed trough their skin and mouths, they will destroy their minds and reproductive systems.

From all this, their children will be born dead, and we will conceal this information.

The poisons will be hidden in everything that surrounds them, in what they drink, eat, breathe and wear.

We must be ingenious in dispensing the poisons for they can see far.

We will teach them that the poisons are good, with fun images and musical tones.

Those they look up to will help. We will enlist them to push our poisons.

They will see our products being used in film and will grow accustomed to them and will never know their true effect.

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When they give birth we will inject poisons into the blood of their children and convince them its for their health.

We will start early on, when their minds are young, we will target their children with what children love most, sweet things.

When their teeth decay we will fill them with metals that will kill their mind and steal their future.

When their ability to learn has been affected, we will create medicine that will make them sicker and cause other diseases for which we will create yet more medicine.

We will render them docile and weak before us by our power.

They will grow depressed, slow and obese, and when they come to us for help, we will give them more poison.

We will focus their attention toward money and material goods so they many never connect with their inner self. We will distract them with fornication, external pleasures and games so they may never be one with the oneness of it all.

Their minds will belong to us and they will do as we say. If they refuse we shall find ways to implement mind-altering technology into their lives. We will use fear as our weapon.

We will establish their governments and establish opposites within. We will own both sides.

We will always hide our objective but carry out our plan.

They will perform the labor for us and we shall prosper from their toil.

Our families will never mix with theirs. Our blood must be pure always, for it is the way.

We will make them kill each other when it suits us.

We will keep them separated from the oneness by dogma and religion.

We will control all aspects of their lives and tell them what to think and how.

We will guide them kindly and gently letting them think they are guiding themselves.

We will foment animosity between them through our factions.

When a light shall shine among them, we shall extinguish it by ridicule, or death, whichever suits us best.

We will make them rip each other's hearts apart and kill their own children.

We will accomplish this by using hate as our ally, anger as our friend.

The hate will blind them totally, and never shall they see that from their conflicts we emerge as their rulers. They will be busy killing each other.

They will bathe in their own blood and kill their neighbors for as long as we see fit.

We will benefit greatly from this, for they will not see us, for they cannot see us.

We will continue to prosper from their wars and their deaths.

We shall repeat this over and over until our ultimate goal is accomplished.

We will continue to make them live in fear and anger though images and sounds.

We will use all the tools we have to accomplish this.

The tools will be provided by their labor.

We will make them hate themselves and their neighbors.

We will always hide the divine truth from them, that we are all one. This they must never know!

They must never know that color is an illusion, they must always think they are not equal.

Drop by drop, drop by drop we will advance our goal.

We will take over their land, resources and wealth to exercise total control over them.

We will deceive them into accepting laws that will steal the little freedom they will have.

We will establish a money system that will imprison them forever, keeping them and their children in debt.

When they shall band together, we shall accuse them of crimes and present a different story to the world for we shall own all the media.

We will use our media to control the flow of information and their sentiment in our favor.

When they shall rise up against us we will crush them like insects, for they are less than that.

They will be helpless to do anything for they will have no weapons.

We will recruit some of their own to carry out our plans, we will promise them eternal life, but eternal life they will never have for they are not of us.

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The recruits will be called "initiates" and will be indoctrinated to believe false rites of passage to higher realms. Members of these groups will think they are one with us never knowing the truth. They must never learn this truth for they will turn against us.

For their work they will be rewarded with earthly things and great titles, but never will they become immortal and join us, never will they receive the light and travel the stars.

They will never reach the higher realms, for the killing of their own kind will prevent passage to the realm of enlightenment. This they will never know.

The truth will be hidden in their face, so close they will not be able to focus on it until its too late.

Oh yes, so grand the illusion of freedom will be, that they will never know they are our slaves.

When all is in place, the reality we will have created for them will own them. This reality will be their prison. They will live in self-delusion.

When our goal is accomplished a new era of domination will begin.

Their minds will be bound by their beliefs, the beliefs we have established from time immemorial.

But if they ever find out they are our equal, we shall perish then. THIS THEY MUST NEVER KNOW.

If they ever find out that together they can vanquish us, they will take action.

The ONLY Way to defeat them is The Plan

They must never, ever find out what we have done, for if they do, we shall have no place to run, for it will be easy to see who we are once the veil has fallen. Our actions will have revealed who we are and they will hunt us down and no person shall give us shelter.

This is the secret covenant by which we shall live the rest of our present and future lives, for this reality will transcend many generations and life spans.

This covenant is sealed by blood, our blood. We, the ones who from heaven to earth came.

This covenant must NEVER, EVER be known to exist. It must NEVER, EVER be written or spoken of for if it is, the consciousness it will spawn will release the fury of the PRIME CREATOR upon us and we shall be cast to the depths from whence we came and remain there until the end time of infinity itself.

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how quickly will one be able to rid a healthy body of the thimerosal/ethylmercury in it??

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Depends on what you do to purge it out. I have had 4 emergency room visits with their "We have no idea what is wrong" diagnosis. On the last one I figured it out myself. That morning before I became violently sick for the 4th time in about 6 years, I swallowed a LARGE filling that came loose. As I lay in the hospital I recalled also loosing a filling on the 2 previous episodes. As we all know, mercury is used in amalgams(fillings).
I have done several herbal heavy metal cleanses. Feel 1,000% better but don't have the finances to remove the rest of my fillings.

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In response to the flu shot being "poison".

During the 90's I was on a solo missionary hike. At the time I was not eating meat and very limited sources of dairy products. I had gotten sick from the flu.
I tried everything I could to get rid of this flu. I tried everything from cold medicine to homeopathic medicines. I did my best to not take a flu shot.

After 15 weeks of being sick from the flu I decided to try to get a flu shot. I had remembered that when I joined the Navy that I was given all kinds of antiviral and antibacterial shots. I did not get sick one time for the next 12 years. This was in fact the first time I had gotten sick in any manner since I received my shots from the Navy.

I searched far and wide for a free flu shot. Many places no longer offered the flu shot. And, many places refused to give me a shot because I was already very ill.

Finally, I found a church that let me take a flu shot for free. They claimed that the flu shot would not help me because I was already very ill. I could hardly walk, I was very pale, and my cough was terrible. My voice was hardly even understandable. If you had seen me you would have drawn away in great fear that I might be contagious!

Just 3 days later I was healed with no signs whatsoever of being sick! JUST 3 DAYS is all it took for the flu shot to work! I KNOW IT WAS THE FLU SHOT!

This year my wife and I received a flu shot each for free at a local community college. We almost did not get the shots for various reasons and policies that were being enacted at the college. But, in the end, we were allowed to receive the free flu shots.

Since we have had the flu shots we have not once even got a viral or bacterial infection of any form! Everyone we know who has not had the flu shot has become very sick. I have even FELT their sickness hit my body, but I did not get sick. The flu shot helped fight infection!

So, when I hear opponents to the flu shot I have to wonder...
What in the heck are they trying to prove? Are they so paranoid of being poisoned that they would not receive something I KNOW works?

The only conspiracy I feel could be going on is that the governments and medical institutions may be somehow infecting us with bacteria and viruses so that we will have to pay for a remedy. I have no base for this nor any evidence for this, but it seems like it could be very possible!

One thing I KNOW FOR CERTAIN is that the flu shot works; it is safe; and if you do not get it you are most likely going to get sick somehow. How that sickness is started is a mystery to me, but I do KNOW that the flu shot helps fight against sickness!

Even though the flu shot is for fighting viruses, I have found that it also helps fight bacterial infections as well. But the CDC claims that the flu shot only helps to fight against viruses not bacterial infections. I have to differ with them. I have even drank after people with either viral and bacterial infections, and the flu shot has made my body able to fight both!

So, if you are sick, and you cannot get well, I suggest you go get a flu shot. IT WILL HELP! Don't listen to the crap that if you are sick the shot will not help, because I KNOW FROM EXPERIENCE that it WILL HELP!!!

When I tell this story to those administering the flu shot their immediate reaction is that there must have been another factor in my getting well. I know this is not true, and when I confidently tell them so their mouths drop open and they become speechless. I tell them straight forward that the flu shot most definitely will help someone who is already sick! Then, they say that they guess it could be possible that the flu shot could help you if you are already sick? Then I tell them that they should NEVER turn anyone away who NEEDS the flu shot, even if they are already sick!

I do believe we are bombarded by all kinds of poisons, but the flu shot is NOT one of them!

IT IS SAFE AND IT WORKS!
PLEASE GET A FLU SHOT IF YOU ARE SICK!!!

I am not a doctor, so I must say, seek a doctor first!

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I had no flu or cold for almost 10 years. Them I got the shot because family and friends were ridiculing and pressuring me. I succumbed to their pleas. The next day I came down with the worst FLU symptoms in my life. I WILL NEVER GET A FLU SHOT AGAIN. My experience!

Six reasons not to get the flu shot
www.naturalnews.com...


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Originally posted by Muundoggie
reply to post by SaintlyMic

 

I had no flu or cold for almost 10 years. Them I got the shot because family and friends were ridiculing and pressuring me. I succumbed to their pleas. The next day I came down with the worst FLU symptoms in my life. I WILL NEVER GET A FLU SHOT AGAIN. My experience!

Six reasons not to get the flu shot
www.naturalnews.com...


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Maybe that was your body's response to the vaccine. Since (as you say) youve never had a flu for 10 years, the flu virus that was injected with the vaccine would naturally bring about a drastic reaction from your immune system.

I have never had the flu shot or any immune shots. I have never had the flu but i have had a sore throat a few times. When my wife or kids get sick with fevers and coughs and runny noses I literally have a runny or stuffy nose for about an hour. Everyone hates that about me. My in laws get the shot as do my friends and a few months or weeks later they are all sick. "Why?" I ask them every year "why do you take it every year?" It's like they forgot last year it didn't work.

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I wouldn't have that kind of critical information as I am not a doctor. I have only found information that has lead me all of my life to be weary of such things you are made to put into your body.

To those who vow by these flu shots, that is fine, I just hope you can counter everything I have offered in proof, and personal accounts.

If you want to put that into your body its your choice.
I am no doctor, yet doctors are human, they are like you and me.
This is what reminds me of religion and preists. They are men like you and me, so they can be wrong. And they all want to make money from you! So if you wish to get your shot, and speak with your doctor about your health, that is your choice.
Yet its to note, some people dont have a choice in flu shots. Its not an optional program in many cases.

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Muundoggie- Thank you for everything you have offered here in this thread.. I will be around further more tommorow to do some more reading into the links, however what I was able to go threw I enjoy learning more about such topics.

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dangerdeath,

with love and freedom,
luck is not required anymore !

to make a second line, schyzophrenia is very very often an accident on a spiritual path, that you are conscious or not to be on the path. see for example, most of the geniuses of last century have been trough schyzophrenia (Einstein is the best example). but they obviously went over it by themselves only, not with chemicals.

I consider what is diagnosed as schyzophrenia to be a failure to fit in the capitalist mould, along with a lack of education about the mind and its exploration: the spiritual side of life is denied by societies that diagnose schyzophrenia and treat it as a mental disease (although they don't have a clue about the brain!).

WOW BUDDY!
Just freakin WOW!
If WATS was still around...Holy moly you get the vote dude!
Just my 2 cents quickly.
I. nor my children, have ever fallen for the flu shot trap. I practice all natural remedies for my family.
My kids were all breastfed, no formula.I never trust it years ago and I still don't.
I never watch TV evangelists, I'm as pagan as they come.
And I realize everything we see on the news has been filtered or created to serve a greater agenda.
Kudos to you my friend, for the research you have done.
STAR and FLAG..
LOVE and LIGHT..
AD