Evolution Officially Debunked!!!

Originally posted by furiousracer313
Evolution has been officially debunked. Watch this series, and i promise it isnt boring cause the guy make jokes and is a great speaker. Check it out guys, no more evolution unless your ignorant and still believe we came from monkeys...


Debunking Evolution Theory

Here you go furiousracer313, and this is something you can "Physically" put your hands around. And go figure, it was discovered only a few months ago, and "Yes" evolution is mentioned, "So don't get mad."

New Birdlike Dinosaur Found in ArgentinaJosé Orozco
for National Geographic News
September 29, 2008
A new predatory dinosaur with a birdlike breathing system found in Argentina may help scientists better understand the evolution of birds' lung systems. (See more photos.)

The elephant-size dinosaur Aerosteon riocoloradensis lived 85 million years ago during the Cretaceous period.

news.nationalgeographic.com...

If you say that the National Geographic is a coven of "Satan Worshippers" I will then understand your theoretical decision dilemmas much more clearer..

To all evolution believers i have a question for u..
If all creatures came out of the ocean, then the first creature on earth had lungs or gills?

reply to post by furiousracer313


Oh, something like this, maybe. Perhaps. Possibly.

reply to post by furiousracer313


Impossible question to answer, which is probably the same way it was presented to you so I will not criticize.

You must understand the earth is roughly 4.5BILLION years old. For much of this time, live has been evolving on the planet from single-celled bacteria to multi-cellular organisms. For us to recover fossil evidence of this transformation millions of years ago would have to be a miracle (pardon the joke).

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Originally posted by Yoda411
reply to post by furiousracer313

 

Impossible question to answer, which is probably the same way it was presented to you so I will not criticize.

You must understand the earth is roughly 4.5BILLION years old. For much of this time, live has been evolving on the planet from single-celled bacteria to multi-cellular organisms. For us to recover fossil evidence of this transformation millions of years ago would have to be a miracle (pardon the joke).

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So that proves that Evolution is just a theory ant not actual science, right? it cannt be observed, right? (except for micro-evolution)

Did u know that apes or primates or cannot evolve into humans b/c humans have more chromosomes that apes/primates/monkeys wutever. Chromosomes cannot be duplicated, although de-evolution is possible b/c animals can lose chromosomes but it is highly unlikley..

anyome else want to take a shot at the question? here it is again:

If all creatures came out of the ocean, then the first creature on earth had lungs or gills?

reply to post by furiousracer313


Furious we all watched the stupid Kent Hovid video and nobody believed it. The majority of this thread is people laughing at the evidence he provided, so I would warn you not to use the same evidence.

Answer: Gills which could also extract oxygen from air.

Go ahead, ruin our night.

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Originally posted by furiousracer313


If all creatures came out of the ocean, then the first creature on earth had lungs or gills?

Answer, probably both. Not lungs exactly, but close enough to crawl around on land for a while. (see above)

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Originally posted by furiousracer313
To all evolution believers i have a question for u..
If all creatures came out of the ocean, then the first creature on earth had lungs or gills?

There are all kinds of finds and papers written on this topic, "Didn't you search?"

They did not have jaws as the name agnatha implies. They suckedup organic goo that was on the bottom the ocean. And these areyour most ancient ancestors, these bottom dwelling, scum suckingancestors. They are known as just fragmentary, almost microfossils from the Cambrian, but they are big enough that they canbe microscopically sectioned an examined. And they have the samemicroscopic structure as the bony plates do.

And this was just down the listed explanation.

And so they have the distinction, the important point of vertebratein evolution of being the oldest group fossil groups with jaws,the first ones to have evolved with jaws. And they appear in thelower Silurian, that is early Silurian right at the boundary withthe Ordovician.

There is a whole article of interest like this website, it's quite a read, but if one is "Truly Open-Minded" it is for a good cause of higher intellectual prowess of being a more learned individual.

www.csupomona.edu...

And here's a bit on Air breathing Gilled species of millinia ago. Don't know if it explains how we or they got to where we are today, but I am sure if one reads it, "It would be in there."

books.google.com... Q6g8AM&hl=en&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=5&ct=result

Here's an article of how science is tying the two main types of respiratory's configurations together as a "Evolved" ability.

SYNOPSIS. A comparative analysis of actinopterygian and sarcopterygian aerial buccal pumps indicates that the primitive pattern of air transfer differs fundamentally between these two clades. Actinopterygian fishes ventilate their lungs with a four-stroke buccal pump: the buccal cavity expands and fills with expired air, compresses to expel expired air, expands again to take in fresh air, and then compresses again to pump fresh air into the lungs. Lungfishes, caudates, and anurans expand and compress the buccal cavity only once per expiratory-inspiratory cycle, and thus use a two-stroke pump. Both of these bidirectional, aerial buccal pumps evolved from unidirectional, aquatic buccal pumps. The two-stroke aerial pump and the primitive aquatic pump used for gill irrigation share slow movements and may both be triggered by the same central rhythm generator. These similarities suggest that the two-stroke buccal pump evolved from the gill irrigation pump. Similarly, the four-stroke pump shares rapid movement and afferent triggering with aquatic suction feeding and coughing, suggesting that the four-stroke pump may have evolved from a combination of two suction feeding or coughing movements. Thus the differences between the actinopterygian and sarcopterygian aerial buccal pumps may be due to their independent evolution from different aquatic buccal pumps, rather than due to divergence from a single aerial buccal pump.

icb.oxfordjournals.org...

I could literally go on and on with different studies of this event, you are best to search it yourself, and if you say that "Well, that's just what the satanists want you to believe." retaliatory remarks, just forget about this whole thing.
As I had said before, "You may not be the type of person to argue this 'Evolution is Debunked' belief scenario."

Originally posted by furiousracer313


Chromosomes cannot be duplicated

They can't huh, so how do you explain cellular division? How do you explain the replicated DNA/chromosomes every time cells divide in a growing fetus? Chromosomes are being copied and duplicated in the range of millions in your very body at any given moment. This is not theory, this is fact. Did you take a single biology class in High School?

Also animals cannot de-evolve if they didn't evolve in the first place. Kind of like you cannot exit a room that you were never in in the first place. Use a little logic.

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I have to agree with you Yoda, there are somethings a "Young Pup" can't learn, that is at least until it starts to "Listen" and accept what is what!!LOL

He is entitled to his way of thinking, the more I come here to see whats being said, the better I feel about my "OPEN-MINDEDNESS" afflictions he has stated earlier in these posts. him

Originally posted by Yoda411
reply to post by furiousracer313

 

Furious we all watched the stupid Kent Hovid video and nobody believed it. The majority of this thread is people laughing at the evidence he provided, so I would warn you not to use the same evidence.

Answer: Gills which could also extract oxygen from air.

Go ahead, ruin our night.

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So why dont we still have gills? Did they just stop growing on us? And i know you will say we adapted to our environment, so does that mean if i decided not to ever use my left leg my kids would be born without one? no it doesnt. another flaw in evolution.. explain that for me..

Originally posted by Phage

Originally posted by furiousracer313


If all creatures came out of the ocean, then the first creature on earth had lungs or gills?

Answer, probably both. Not lungs exactly, but close enough to crawl around on land for a while. (see above)

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Im pretty sure it would die since it wouldnt know wut to eat if there was anything to eat...

Originally posted by Osiris1953

Originally posted by furiousracer313


Chromosomes cannot be duplicated

They can't huh, so how do you explain cellular division? How do you explain the replicated DNA/chromosomes every time cells divide in a growing fetus? Chromosomes are being copied and duplicated in the range of millions in your very body at any given moment. This is not theory, this is fact. Did you take a single biology class in High School?

Also animals cannot de-evolve if they didn't evolve in the first place. Kind of like you cannot exit a room that you were never in in the first place. Use a little logic.

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Maybe Darwin should have used a little logic to when u came up with the whole evolution process. Oh and did u know that before he died he recanted evolution saying that it wasnt true??

Originally posted by furiousracer313
So why dont we still have gills? Did they just stop growing on us? And i know you will say we adapted to our environment, so does that mean if i decided not to ever use my left leg my kids would be born without one? no it doesnt. another flaw in evolution.. explain that for me..

You do understand that whales, and dolphins, breathe air and do not have gills right?

Evolution teaches that through survival of the fittest, minor mutations occur which make a creature more apt to survival. This creature which is more apt to survival then lives on to breed. This happens for several hundreds of millions of years I might add, so your concept of "where did it go??" doesn't fit in to this massive time spectrum.

You should research evolution with an open mind my friend, in the same respect that you give your time to Kent Hovid (who I might add has evaded $500,000 worth of tax fraud and is currently serving in federal prison). Additionally Kent Hovid has a Ph.D. from an unaccredited institution.

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I'm just having fun with you. I don't expect you to change your mind on this but I still think you have a hard time defending Evolution. Darwin's Origin of the Species doesn't say anything about the origin of life. Darwin himself indicates that there is a Creator.

There is grandeur in this view of life, with its several powers, having been originally breathed by the Creator into a few forms or into one;

Charles Darwin - The Origin of Species

In the end I think that even if you were to prove Evolution to be fact, you would still have such a huge gap from the Big Bang and exploding stars to the cell that it would make Evolution look like the closing credits on a 2 hour film.

That is why I find Evolution to be a white wash on the origin of life. It doesn't address the origin of life at all. It merely picks up in the closing chapter of where we are today. I think you'll find that many who have problems with Evolution discredit it because it's only one piece of the puzzle. I doubt you can argue against that. Disagree maybe, but hard to argue with.

Originally posted by furiousracer313
If all creatures came out of the ocean, then the first creature on earth had lungs or gills?

Like blood clotting right? Some questions are better unasked.

Originally posted by furiousracer313

Originally posted by Yoda411
reply to post by furiousracer313

 

So why don't we still have gills?

Wow!!! I am laughing sooo hard right now!!

Did they just stop growing on us?

"You are killing me here!!!"

And i know you will say we adapted to our environment,

WOW once again, you r starting to understand, even if it is on the "Sarcastic" side of arguement..ROTFLMAO!!!

so does that mean if i decided not to ever use my left leg my kids would be born without one? no it doesnt. another flaw in evolution.. explain that for me..

Stop arguing furious, it is really getting "Super Stupid" and very one sided as your points of views and beliefs.

Evolution:

n.
A gradual process in which something changes into a different and usually more complex or better form. See synonyms at development.

The process of developing.
Gradual development.
Biology.
Change in the genetic composition of a population during successive generations, as a result of natural selection acting on the genetic variation among individuals, and resulting in the development of new species.
The historical development of a related group of organisms; phylogeny.
A movement that is part of a set of ordered movements.
Mathematics. The extraction of a root of a quantity.

www.answers.com...

hopefully the part about "A gradual process in which something changes into a different and usually more complex or better form. See synonyms at development.' will open your thought processors a bit..

And by the way, "Spell checker is in your "Tool Bar". on top of the screen..."

sorry for "Edit" forgot brackets on quotes!!

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Originally posted by furiousracer313

So why dont we still have gills? Did they just stop growing on us? And i know you will say we adapted to our environment, so does that mean if i decided not to ever use my left leg my kids would be born without one? no it doesnt. another flaw in evolution.. explain that for me..

Sigh, how can you debunk evolution when you dont even understand a thing about it

reply to post by OzWeatherman


That is exactly what I am trying to get across to furious as well, but, "If the shoe fits even tightly, he seems to mant to wear them!!" LOL