What is with you people?!?! Ask me questions...

I read topic after topic after topic, and it makes me angry how satan has turned people away from God. Through scientific lies, myths, astrology. How can you people be so stupid? I can feel the anger that God feels when people are purposely mislead by satan. The info is out for you!! Just open your eyes. The truth will set you free people. This is a war for you soul. People all over have found truth and will be saved. Here is a website, watch at least one video.

I Am Second

I'll tell you what, you guys who don't believe or are confused post all the questions you have, and I will answer them as soon as i can.


Thanks....

If people are allowed to believe in what they want (and they are), what does that mean for people who don't believe in souls? What does it mean for people who don't believe in God? What does it mean for those who realize the existence of God can not be proven nor disproven?

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Have you ever had one of those dreams that was so real you were not sure if you were awake or sleeping?

What if that dream was your biased reality?

What makes you falsely assume they are sleeping and you are awake?

Could it be an illusion created within your own mind to feed the ego beast of the animalistic nature?

I'd think about that if I were you.

nice flame post, i got nothing better to do at the moment. you're one step away from sheer begging, which is comendable and despicable at the same time. interesting dichotomy right off of the bat. which brings me to my point.

everyone doesn't think like you see? there are billions of people in this world and they don't all answer to your lord got it? up, down, left, right, inside, and out. it takes all kinds. if your god can't handle that then it's time for him to start collecting unemployment.

Jesus had supposedly mentioned the hosts and the great hosts. Was Jesus than also a host?

Actually, if you recall, who was it in the bible that said He would send a strong delusion that they should believe a lie? IF Satan is attacking anyone, it is not the ones who don't believe. They don't believe because they don't want to and since this is a time of revealing, G-d has sent to each person what it is they want to see. Satan isn't worried about the those who DON'T believe.. his business is with those who do want to believe, but it was promised that during this time, G-d will protect those who are seeking after Him with their whole heart. It is no doubt that He is showing the way to see the difference between the truth and the lies.

Originally posted by Incarnated Could it be an illusion created within your own mind to feed the ego beast of the animalistic nature?

I'd think about that if I were you.

Well, explain to me... if you are god, can't you think for him? or did you do that already and thus the reason for the assumption? just curious

Originally posted by Mozzy
nice flame post, i got nothing better to do at the moment. you're one step away from sheer begging, which is comendable and despicable at the same time. interesting dichotomy right off of the bat. which brings me to my point.

everyone doesn't think like you see? there are billions of people in this world and they don't all answer to your lord got it? up, down, left, right, inside, and out. it takes all kinds. if your god can't handle that then it's time for him to start collecting unemployment.

"You NEVER go up against a Sicilian when deathfffis on the line....Ha ahahah ha...."

You remind me of that guy....Vencini from Princess Bride

"Ever heard of Aristotle, Socroties, Plato....?"

Yes

"Idiots....."

Anyway, you make me smile. Thanks Mozzy

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ok heres my question...
why cant god appear in front of me as a 3 toed, bug eyed, green alien that goes 'beep beep nanoo nanoo' ?

proof affirms faith!

Earlier this year, I shed a feeling of genuine all encompassing physically and spiritually draining hate for another human being.
I had a host of valid reasons for the feeling, and in another time or place, may have imposed my own sentence on the individual.

This was literally eating away at my being for such a length of time that my habits of even temperment, smiling and just living life had changed drastically.

After much contemplation, meditation and inner focus, I was able to rid my being of this slow spiritual death that pure hate manifests within, and now, I have removed from my mind all hate and have forgiven all that the wrongs done to me.

I feel a new sense of spiritual awakening and an inner calm has now replaced the self destructive hate I, for too long embraced.

I was so sceptical of human nature having good rather than evil that I was becoming intraverted and alienated some true friends for a time.

Life is too short and if empathy for the anti-christs that plague our lands, with such infestation that surely they have chosen death over everlasting life, could be achieved by all of us; their victims, the combined love and higher spiritual enlightenment that would radiate from such a united oneness, that I truly believe (with a smile now) that their plans and goals would die on the vine symbolic of the fruit they sew, and we would reap the millenia of peace and the world would truly become a paradise, and all this would come to pass without a bit of violence.

I would recommend anyone who harbors hate within to denounce it and walk the spiritual path that is our true nature.

I have overcome darkness and I say in truth that to walk in light is to finally be free.

good job dropping the hate. i have a few people that i could use that wisdom with. (i don't believe you by the way, it sounds like you're just purging getting ready for another binge.)

secondly, this world isn't meant to be perfect and it never will be. god is an extreme idea that's always one step away from being realized. kinda like carmen san diego.

consider it a law of averages. most things tend towards mediocrity. get used to it.

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Take a look at this video.
If you actually watch it with an open mind, and really think about what he is saying I can promise you this will change your beliefs.
Breaking the last great taboo: how irrational religious belief is hurting mankind as a whole

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You call people who don't believe in your god stupid yet expect them to ask you honest heart felt questions? There are plenty of bible thumpers on ATS that I respect and consider friends, but you sir are the model of unprovoked/misdirected uninformed Christian aggression. Good day to you sir.

In my bible, the serpent is the one who is helping man to discover knowledge.

Without knowledge you are a slave. With it, you are god-like. Just as the bible says.
Sorry to break it to your god, but I don't buy his garbage.

Furthermore, to the mods, I've been docked lots of points in the past for calling people such names.

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Originally posted by furiousracer313
I read topic after topic after topic, and it makes me angry how satan has turned people away from God. Through scientific lies, myths, astrology. How can you people be so stupid? I can feel the anger that God feels when people are purposely mislead by satan. The info is out for you!! Just open your eyes. The truth will set you free people. This is a war for you soul. People all over have found truth and will be saved. Here is a website, watch at least one video.

I Am Second

I'll tell you what, you guys who don't believe or are confused post all the questions you have, and I will answer them as soon as i can.


Thanks....

Better to show people than to tell them they are wrong after all we can say anything we like it confuses me as to why you would go about this subject matter in this fashion considering Jesus never went out and said you are wrong blah blah blah he showed them how they were wrong by leading by example.

If anything the way you approach with this post will just drive people closer to their own truths and away from what you believe is the truth.

Well thats straight and to the point ...So why dont you go to some of those threads and help answer the questions they all have ....we are giving it our best shot ...but you and I both know that you can lead a horse to water but you cant make them drink ....
Some of the questions really have no easy answer ..since we are not God and we *unlike God are limited in what we know ...and why God does some of the things he does ..(like not just yell at the unbelievers from heaven and talk to them like he did the children of Israel) ..or why he wont come to them in a dream a vision ....or some way to show that he does in fact exist ..(We as believers know that God does come to them in many ways and tries to get their attention ..and we also know that if they are not really interested in knowing him and it is just some ego game they are playing or they just want a handout or easy way out etc ..........God knows that ..and he does not play games and he will NOT ALLOW you to use him or toy with him .) we know all of this and do our best to explain that to the unbelievers ...But as you can see ..they have all this other mumbo jumbo heinz 57 beliefs all mixed up and makes it very hard to even get them to check into it and reference it etc (whatever is the subject) ..
We cant even get past the FAITH issue with them ..so any suggestions would be very helpful with that ..in conveying that to them ..jump right in ...

satan really is working overtime ..and I agree with Justamamma(I know strange eh that we agree on something lol) when she said ...how can any one of us actually do anything to change prophecy >.
It was told about that many will fall away from the truth (that is happening at an alarming rate) ...the bible also says that peoples hearts will turn cold and mock God and hate others while being consumed with self ..no regard for their fathers or mothers ..brothers sisters etc (and we are certainly seeing that specific generation right now in our times) .......

All we can do is keep offering the water ..and pray that they will drink of it .
And as we all know ...they cannot even come unless the father draw them ..so our prayers would be the best place for us to start ...like asking the father to draw them to him ..........
Jhn 6:44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.

The Meaning of DRAW in the concordance
1) to draw, drag off

2) metaph., to draw by inward power, lead, impel

Prayer and planting the seed (telling them about him ) is what I believe will draw them to him ....but we as believers in order to be effective witnesses really do have to not only talk the talk ..(tell the word to them) but walk the walk ..(not just be hearers of the word but doers of the word) ..
Which is hard to do when we are imperfect and human too and do end up angry etc (along with them) which really does not do one bit of good but can really hinder a unbeliever even more ..why would they believe we have something they do not have (Jesus making a change in us for the better in the here and now while we are here supposed to be being a light in the darkness) if we dont even walk the walk we preach about walking and we do not have that light shining in our own lives even ...

This is to you believers ...wake up and see that we must be lacking something in our walk or we would not be so easily provoked back to that old man we layed at the cross so many years ago so easily (in just a few posts even ) .... ....
Lets all (believers) go back and do our first works again (as Revelation talks about) and get that old man (who gets angry and frustriated and easily agitated ) ..and start over again (in other words ...stop letting that old man come back and take over . If that new man (that we were supposed to have been changed to if we really did have a personal relationship with Christ) is fading ..then it seems to me that it is time to GIVE OURSELVES BACK TO HIM ...only this time 100 % willing to walk that walk ...(it is not a hard task ..all he asks that you allow him to work within you and you not try and frustrait his work in you by not giving that old man his burial and become that new creature that God has all layed out for you to become ..it just requires that you let him ) . .............so we can be effective witnesses in his name ...wherever we may be .........

That is my prayer ...I am praying for all believers ...so that the unbelievers will have something they can really see in us (as in Christ is supposed to be in us so much that they feel him from you even on a message board) ..let our lights shine on them ..(the word says stir up that spirit in you (awaken it once again ) ....and get back to the JOY and the LOVE and the CHANGE of heart mind body and soul that you felt that first day when you first believed .
Then maybe many would come to know the Lord just from the light shining from YOU >.(and me and whoever believes in him ) ..


Ok Preaching over .(sorry I got on a roll) .lol ....Hey I know I was preaching to the Choir but I was preaching to myself too ..
Thanks for listening ...
and GOD BLESS ...

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PS ..there is another MAJOR problem ...most of us (believers) all believe so different about even the basics ...how on earth can we get past that even ?
I would love suggestion on that one ...

First i do not believe or disbelieve, I question everything. I love nothing more than to hear others viewpoints.

My questions, some of which have several parts.

1. What are scientific lies? Give me examples please.

2. Purely making assumptions as to the scientific lies, how can you prove that scientific information that is proven can constitute a lie?

3. Why would God give humanity the ability to form logical conclusions as to their origins and anything else, yet condemn them for doing so?

4. Why do all people not believe the same thing?

5. Could the original message of the bible completely differ from what you believe, given the fact it is written by men and then translated over and over again?

6. Why was the pope the richest person in the world up to recent times?

7. Why does church take collections above what is necessary to keep the institution running?

8. What of the astrological references as well as the religions prior with similar stories and deities?

9. Is it possible that a higher power or God has emulated itself over many religions and viewpoints to get a greater message of peace across to everyone, thus making everyone right?

10. Are we as a species not capable peace? Are we not capable of doing right without the message of God? Would it be possible that God had created us with the intention of us moving on without him?

11. Why would God allow the world to fall into turmoil constantly?

12. How do you know that you belief is "the way it is?" Is it just faith, or have you seen something that others have simply missed?

I truly want to hear you answer. Please let me know. I come from a religious background yet keep an open mind.

Originally posted by Jay-in-AR In my bible, the serpent is the one who is helping man to discover knowledge.

This is a very good point actually despite your jests. The knowledge is flowing, thus a clue as to what is happening.

The questions: What are you going to do with that knowlege? What are you going to seek with that knowlege? Where does your journey end?

Knowledge IS freedom. It is what the individual decides to do with that freedom. Hence the time of great tribulation for the saints and the meaning behind the phrase "the love of many shall wax cold" and on the other spectrum "there is a way that seemeth right, but it will surely lead to death."

Despite my jests? I meant no pun.

What do you suggest? That god creates man without the purpose of giving him knowledge?
He creates a slave.
To question what I would do with said knowledge and to say that god shouldn't give it to me is to say I deserve death. To that I ask what is the point.

"Give me Liberty, or give me Death."

If you mean to say that God creates the Serpent to give us knowledge, I have to laugh... Why not just give it himself? And why would I be punished for receiving it?!
Folly I say. The biblical god is a slave-master. Nothing more.

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