Obama Forgery Exposed (Dr. Polarik Official Use)

lol I mean some of these ideas...Obama is born in Kenya...*Imagines Obama in rags*


Where does that even come from?

The only one of these that is true is George H Bush was really from Germany I think and he changed his name to Bush and moved to America sometime in the 40s or 50s I think...

I got emails saying Obama is muslim. I got ATS telling me hes a guy from Kenya. All of this started from some blogger in his moms basement eating Cheetos and sipping Red Bull.....


But hey, whatever you have to tell yourselves. Whatever helps you sleep. If pretending that Obama is some secret agent gets you off, I hope you get off every night.
lol

[edit on 28-11-2008 by ConservativeJack]

ok, ok.. wait. he said he's concealing his identity, but he freely tells us his name and occupation? i'm sorry, uhhhhh.... derrrr.... how friggin stupid. ok. that said, is this keeps up it could destroy the infrastructure of the u.s. now, i would believe that the u.s. gonvernment, would fully, check one of the only few requirements to be the president. so, let's just think about

a) the potential problems that yanking the presidency would bring on a national level.

b) the gross incompetence, on the part of the u.s. govenment, that will be demonstrated to the world, we can't be leaders of jack in the world, if we can't lead ourselves

c) if the election IS found to be fraudulent, biden can not take office, will bush be held over untill a new election, conventions, primaries and all can be re-run? don't know about you, but i don't want that.

when bush got elected (first election)m i said he'd probably never leave office. let's not give him the chance to stay in.

This is the only thing I see on the Supreme Court Docket.

origin.www.supremecourtus.gov...

After spending a lot of time in this thread, I feel I need to comment on something.

Those who think that Obama is a legal, american born citizen seem to come at this from two different angles.

One group comes in here and says "This is crazy. Here's why. Fact A. Fact B. Fact C. Is that enough info for you?"

Another group comes in here and says "You guys are stupid. How can you believe this? Don't you have a brain? You're all brainwashed right-wingers who need to get a life."

Kudos to those from the first group. Even though I remain unconvinced, I respect your style and your willingness to contribute information from the other side of the issue.

Those in the second group...you are a detriment to ATS. Your posts are purely argumentative and contribute nothing to the thread.

Now back to your regularly scheduled debate...

Originally posted by Irish M1ck
reply to post by Evisscerator

 

\God.  That is so incorrect.  The state of Hawaii has absolutely verified that his vaulted birth certificate is legal and states that he is from Hawaii. 

Christ, there is an AP news headlined based off of it. 
Do you people even read?
State says Obama's Birth Certificate "Okay"
State declares Obama's Birth Certificate Genuine

Mick I have seen at least a dozen or more people correct you on this factoid yet you STILL continue to say it was proven the BC said he was born in HI when you KNOW that was never mentioned! Now I see you are doing it again so I am either to assume you are just a liar or so in love with Obamaboy you would say anything to assist him in his perjury even if it means commiting the same act yourself.

I'm not from the US but I believe that if investigations happened to prove that Obama wasn't born in the US and he knowingly defrauded the constitution in order to gain office, then he can't be trusted with any other issue no matter how small and thus should be impeached and replaced.

The leader of any country is meant to represent the qualities to which all it's citizens aspire. What would Obama's message be under such circumstances?

"Defrauding and Dishonestly is cool if it can get you what you want"!

I don't know... just asking the question..

IRM

Originally posted by InfaRedMan
I'm not from the US but I believe that if investigations happened to prove that Obama wasn't born in the US and he knowingly defrauded the constitution in order to gain office, then he can't be trusted with any other issue no matter how small and thus should be impeached and replaced.

The leader of any country is meant to represent the qualities to which all it's citizens aspire. What would Obama's message be under such circumstances?

"Defrauding and Dishonestly is cool if it can get you what you want"!

I don't know... just asking the question..

IRM

Yes I agree, and that just may be the reason, Obama has spent over $800,000 trying to keep something Irish Mick says is all legit.

Well help me with the math here Mick, This man is supposed to fix our economy? It would cost him nothing to show his Vault BC where he chooses to spend upward of almost a million dollars to keep a secret.

Oh yeah, it's a secret all right, else why hide it?

What ever he is hiding, he is looking more guilty as a con man everyday

Originally posted by stealthsurfer
I am not an Obama fan or supporter, and I was definitely not a More of the same supporter, but after doing some research about this situation, I have come to my own conclusion that he is indeed a US Citizen.

Sup stealth!

I'm still on the fence a bit, because there still is that possibility of the date problem- certificate was filed 4 days after his actual birth, leaving open the possibility that she traveled to Hawaii right after his birth. But no one seems to be able to come up with much of anything to support that. For the most part through my own research, I am tending to agree.

Thanks for the interesting thread TrueAmerican, I was very curious after coming here and reading your thoughts, and that is why I wanted to do some research.
Take care...

Stealth

You're welcome stealth. Appreciate it. I wish more people on ATS were as polite as you. Discussions here do not need to be backed with such vitriol. We throw up a subject, keep an open mind and just discuss it- why is that so hard for some people?

I just hope it doesn't happen again, but it probably will.

reply to post by Walkswithfish


He is not officially elected president until after the electoral college does their thing on December 15th. That's why we all want Mr Obama to come forward with the proper documents. If the man has nothing to hide, why not just produce them and shut us people up? That is all it would take. Until then, he is NOT my president, and will not be until after the January 20th swearing in, (which will undoubtedly be on the koran and NOT the bible). Lets all think on THIS awhile.

this is nothing new. its a well established fact that obama is not only a foreigner but hell bent on the destruction of america and its allies. THe facts are that he is not a patriot and being a democrat does not represent the real america or its values that define us as a people. Freedom and good will always win and in the next election republicans are going to let a bunch of communists bully them around like what happened in this rigged election to get a red in the white hose. ugh where is mccarthy when ya need him!

Originally posted by tigpoppa
being a democrat does not represent the real america or its values that define us as a people.

I am one of America's people. Are you claiming that I have no choice in how I feel that I should be represented? If I am democrat, I am no longer American? I am sorry, no one told me that you were now the spokesman for what all Americans stand for. Please get in touch, I think we need to meet. You seem saddly out of touch with more than half of the people that vote in this country so I think we need to go over a few things before you go off speaking for me or any other American and claim that what they represent is not American. Back to your factless, baseless, libelous thread now.

What the last guy said....... You DO NOT speak for me!

I reiterate..... YOU = DOES NOT SPEAK FOR ME.

My gut feeling is Obama was most likley Born in Kenya and his mom applied for a Birth Certificate in Hawaii imediatly after arriving there.

If this is true and afterwords he spent the rest of his life in the USA I dont have too much of a problem of him staying as president. Because really how much does his first months of his life infleunce anything.

Its like should a college student 2 min late for a college class be marked absent for the whole 4 hours of the class?

I think it would create alot more problems than its worth to right now to prove his BC is indead fake. But if he starts creating a bunch of rediculous policys and laws months after being president, then I it should be brought up again...lol.

Originally posted by complexmind
My gut feeling is Obama was most likley Born in Kenya and his mom applied for a Birth Certificate in Hawaii imediatly after arriving there.

It is a good thing that history books, laws, judgements, science, medical journals, etc. are not based on gut feelings since these ones ignore the facts.

If this is true and afterwords he spent the rest of his life in the USA I dont have too much of a problem of him staying as president. Because really how much does his first months of his life infleunce anything.

Because we have rules in the U.S. You make that exception and who draws the line? 3 months old? 6 months old? 2 yrs old? Do you get to decide how far across the line America would like to let the rules governing the office of the president are stretched?

Its like should a college student 2 min late for a college class be marked absent for the whole 4 hours of the class?

If that is how that class is run, yes. That is the real world and that is how grown up business works. 2 minutes late is late. There is a reason we have rules and standards and adults follow them. Just how late should everyone get to be for class? Do I get a refund if I show up on time and have to lose 2 minutes listening to people arrive late? Do you pay it? When you fail the test for not knowing what was taught while you were late, will you also say it was unfair of the teacher to test you on stuff you did not learn because he started class on time and you did not? I am really at a loss.

I think it would create alot more problems than its worth to right now to prove his BC is indead fake. But if he starts creating a bunch of rediculous policys and laws months after being president, then I it should be brought up again...lol.

So the constitution is not important until he does something you do not like? What if you are the only person in the country to not like it? Shoule I then still lose tax dollars to courts battling over this crap because you decided that you no longer feel like tolerating him anymore?

Everything in your post is what makes me sad for the future of America.

reply to post by Iblis Smiley


Sir. Please to be removing the stick from your ass Sir.


Edit: People dumb enough to think that the office of president would be entrusted to someone who hadn't been vetted over months if not years makes me sad for the future of America. Guess we're just a sad bunch, eh?

[edit on 29-11-2008 by Zenagain]

Originally posted by Zenagain
reply to post by Iblis Smiley

 

People dumb enough to think that the office of president would be entrusted to someone who hadn't been vetted over months if not years

are why I seem to have a stick in there.

just want to point out something here. bush and cheney were born in usa and look what they had done to your country and your people and the constitution. so as far as l'm concerne , you dont really need someone that is born in usa .... you need a good president that work for it's people not only for it's friend so please could you gave him a chance or could you give your self a chance ...

reply to post by planetfor_rent


Your feelings are in the right place but think of the repurcussions. Next it is Arnold running for prez, then who? Someone who moved here 20 years ago? a year ago? There is a reason we have these rules and they must never be waivered from.

Luckily, Obama is legally a natural born U.S. citizen so this really is not going to be an issue here. The only people that seem to think he was not are ATS posters and fraudulent lawyers. Amazing how everyone things that bored UFO and bigfoot fanatics and an ambulance chaser are doing research that the powers that be neglected to do.

Do you all really think that the folks who invested millions of dollars in getting the man elected and the people that lost millions trying to beat him are sitting at home now saying "Oh, why didnt I think to have this looked into."? Seriously? Almost forgot to mention that there is also support from an author whose worked has been shredded by the facts in the past. Maybe this will be the one and only time he is accurate and right about something. Keep your fingers crossed. If only John McCaine had access to the money and connections to have looked into this. Oh well, I am sure the same people that think low res photos of cracks on mars are forrests have access to the resources he did not. Good luck y'all.

Originally posted by stealthsurfer
www.factcheck.org...
The link above is from a very reputable site, ...

Not really. On Annenbergs factcheck.com -

Factcheck donates to the left

Word Press Obama was the first Chairman of the Board of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, which was a Division, or Project, of the Annenberg Foundation - which runs Factcheck.org.

Annenberg Factcheck - Walter Annenberg, founder of the $500 million gift that funded the Annenberg Challenge, of which Obama was the Chairman of the Board.

BTW - Unrepentant terrorist Bill Ayers was co-chair of the Annenberg Challenge.

Obama/Annenberg Earmarks - In 2005 Obama requested $3.5 Million For The USC Annenberg Research Network.

So considering that Obama got multi-millions in earmarks for Annenberg and Annenberg runs Factcheck.org, not to mention Obama was chairman of the board for the Annenberg Challenge ..... hmmmmm

National Review has more on the Annenberg Challenge.


NOTHING is as it seems.

reply to post by FlyersFan


and the reputable site proving he is not a natural born citizen is....?

The reputable anything proving he is not a natural born citizen is what again....?