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posted on Nov, 24 2008 @ 02:42 PM
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Here's what I understand about crop circles:
They are created to help unlock our DNA and wake us up. The forms the ET's create (and "ET" can be debated, if you believe in other dimensions...the beings that create the Crop Circles could be living right in the fields, but residing in another frequency, hence not Extra Terrestrial, but Terrestrial...) are harmonic frequency activators and forms that we are very familiar with as higher dimensional beings. They are leaving clues for us.

We're living in a very tightly controlled cocoon environment in this reality. The Crop Circles are made to help wake us up and to help us realize we're inter-dimensional beings, here on the planet at this time to bring it out of "darkness" (old paradigms, greed, hate, aggression), and start a more compassionate way of living here on this living planet.

The ships can "drop in" to our reality by changing frequencies. They can change the wheat on a molecular level (which you all probably knew already) in an "instant" in our time, but they reside where linear time does not exist. So they can create the design they want, take their time at it, and jump around in our "time" so it seems like it only takes a flash to create it.

You all probably know this stuff already. If you want, or are interested in a good explanation by a normal sounding guy about our reality here, watch this:
www.youtube.com...

In a later part, maybe part 8 or so, he explains how the Pyramids were created.



posted on Nov, 24 2008 @ 02:49 PM
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Originally posted by Perseus Apex
Tractors made those images. You can see the tiremarks/roads created through all the images. I thought this was common knowledge by now? If there weren't tire tracks, perhaps it would be more believable, cause I doubt one would go to all the manual labor to make images that large. A tractor could do that in one day. I own one though not we're I currently reside lol.

When one lives in the country, they find all kinds of way to pass their time, including laughing at the conspiracy theories and cashing those interview checks and banking those tourism dollars.


[edit on 24-11-2008 by Perseus Apex]


I understand what you're saying, because there are lines that go across the field from end to end, but a tractor could not possibly make this:


or this:
[[img=http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/508/cc0014nd6.jpg[/img]

Also, a tractor would break the wheat, crack the stalk. The crop circles are made by bending the wheat. It's still growing and not broken off at ground level.



[edit on 24-11-2008 by coney]



posted on Nov, 24 2008 @ 02:55 PM
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)Sorry, couldn't fix that image link)

Or this one:



posted on Nov, 24 2008 @ 03:37 PM
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Below provides a good demonstration of how done, by humans with too much time on their hands. One can only tip a cow so many times.

'Most' crop circling debunked here



posted on Nov, 24 2008 @ 03:43 PM
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Hey all.
You need to see this video if you haven't already.

"The two most important crop circles ever. No joke"

And this one
Jaime Maussan - Crop Circle Date May 2012 16th UFO Congress


[edit on 24-11-2008 by GuyverUnit I]



posted on Nov, 24 2008 @ 04:07 PM
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Well, as it is impossible to prove a negative claim, such as "prove this wasn't done by a hoaxer", you can only go by the effects observed that haven't yet been duplicated. Bent stalks, busted nodes, magnetic anomalies inside the glyph, radioactive anomalies, etc.

I did a quick search and found this site which represents one person's opinion on what makes a "genuine" glyph. www.korncirkler.dk...

On a side note, is anyone familiar with the glyph that had an intact bird's nest built into it? I was searching for it but I can't find it right now. That was a neat example.


PS. Thanks for the responses guys. I just got home and I'm reading over the progress of the thread... More soon.


[edit on 24-11-2008 by Jay-in-AR]



posted on Nov, 24 2008 @ 04:10 PM
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I was looking over the Google Earth photo of the Arecibo Radio Telescope last night and I am now firmly convinced that the Glyph is, IN FACT, a visualization of that telescope from above. Funny thing about that is that when the glyph was layed in the crop, we didn't have Google Earth... Makes the likelihood of a hoax even more remote. The "bubbles" to either side of the dish are the mountains surrounding the dish. I'll repost the image later.



posted on Nov, 24 2008 @ 04:33 PM
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Originally posted by Perseus Apex
reply to post by coney
 


Below provides a good demonstration of how done, by humans with too much time on their hands. One can only tip a cow so many times.

'Most' crop circling debunked here


it provides a good example of how the basic sloppy hoaxes are created.

it dos'nt explain how huge complex patterns are done from ground level with such precision.

NOBODY doubts that there are hoaxes, of course there are hoaxes. however some of the crop circles need ferther investigastion, because there are many reasons as to why some of the bigger more complex circles(or should i say complex patterns) could not of been created in the same way as the hoaxes over night with a few planks of wood.

even if these other more complex circles are manmade, it should be obvious to anyone they are NOT created in the same way.

people are forgetting some of these huge complex patterns have appeared overnight, nobody in area saw anything and did'nt see any lighting in the field (needed to see what your doing) or hear anything. and yet they appeared right next to guarded communication structures or the field was in view of nearby houses.

yet nobody saw a thing or heard a thing.

farshores.org...

why do we never see these being recreated to prove they are manmade?
why do we always only get examples of basic very easy to make messy and unprecise circles?

surely someone can recreate this within 5 hours with a few friends during total darkness if they are hoaxes by a few people with planks.

my opinion is some of the circles are either real phenomenon or they are manmade using some sort of projector technology.

are there any types of lights that can reproduce the effects on the corn? because i'm thinking something along the lines of a light or heat source which gives of light, with a pattern inserted over it so the only light that projects onto the field is the area's that need to be flatten to make the pattern.

i really have no idea, but it should be obvious some of these crop circles are not made by a few people with wooden planks.



posted on Nov, 24 2008 @ 04:35 PM
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According to the author of this site... www.dprins.demon.nl... ... The circle you are speaking of was a breakthrough for people looking into the idea that the glyphs are illustrations of a hyperdimensional reality. You are right, there IS a lot of information in the formation.



posted on Nov, 24 2008 @ 04:39 PM
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Dangit... I am feeling myself compelled to debate whether the existance of these things. This is NOT the direction I was hoping the thread would go. I mean, it is nice to see that it has generated a fair amount of discussion, but I intended (as stated in the thread opener) this to be an outlet for likeminded people to research the different aspects of what IS SEEN ON THE GROUND.

This will be my only off topic post. I would appreciate the same.



posted on Nov, 24 2008 @ 05:20 PM
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Here is a better image of the alien face crop circle from video I linked above



posted on Nov, 24 2008 @ 06:26 PM
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I believe in UFOs and aliens. To think we're alone is ludicrous.

But our technology is so advanced that you should look at the human abilities to be able to do this.

Get yourself a strong green laser. Go out and try it on some tall grass like that of a crop circle. Does the bend in the grass look reminiscent of that found within a crop circle? Try it! You may have to get close to the grass because of the strength of the laser but you'll see what I mean.

Now these orbs or balls of energy have been seen all over the world. Put a laser aboard and you have lots of abilities. If the orb focuses its beam on a something it can pick up the vibrations and then "hear" that something or anything in it, which could be your house, car, etc.

I could be wrong. Deja Vu_javascript:icon('
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posted on Nov, 24 2008 @ 06:35 PM
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Alright, here are a couple of images I would like to repost in response to what the anonymous poster had mentioned. Go to Google Earth and look for the Arecibo Telescope. Then compare it to the Arecibo Reply glyph...

See the similarity??





I would contend that, considering the rest of the Arecibo Reply, the "device" is nothing more than a from-air representation of the very telescope we used to send it... Same reason that "their" response to our Solar System was a replica of the same... With two exceptions. 1) They showed both Earth AND Mars as being inhabited, and 2) They showed Jupiter for what it is, a star.

See below.





And finally, both the transmission and the response.





*The above images were taken directly from www.abovetopsecret.com... authored by Mike Singh...
More to come with this post. I need to recreate it. I guess I cut myself off and didn't use the draft function.


[edit on 24-11-2008 by Jay-in-AR]



posted on Nov, 24 2008 @ 06:36 PM
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Originally posted by Jay-in-AR
Dangit... I am feeling myself compelled to debate whether the existance of these things. This is NOT the direction I was hoping the thread would go. I mean, it is nice to see that it has generated a fair amount of discussion, but I intended (as stated in the thread opener) this to be an outlet for likeminded people to research the different aspects of what IS SEEN ON THE GROUND.

This will be my only off topic post. I would appreciate the same.


Sorry about that Jay...

Just thought that my info may help to show that your being steered into a thinking.... Project BlueBeam... This is part of it. Hoagland helps to identify the dis-info that is being spread about crop circles. I believe they are possibly due to ETs but I also believe that "man" has created its own. I think Carl Sagan tried to let us know that he was just a pawn within the NWO game and, that we should treat this with suspicion.

Good luck with your research Jay. Hopefully you'll have someone in the "know" pass you good stuff.

Rgds

I could be wrong. Deja Vu_javascript:icon('
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posted on Nov, 24 2008 @ 06:50 PM
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... Cont.

Although Mike's thread is a great read that I would recommend to anyone looking at the Arecibo Reply issue, I would like to move on.

Here are some that I found interesting. I believe, very strongly, that these are, in fact, a script of some sort. Anyone have any clues to what they could possibly have in common in script or in date?

www.lucypringle.co.uk...

www.lucypringle.co.uk...

www.lucypringle.co.uk...

www.lucypringle.co.uk...

www.lucypringle.co.uk...

I have found a ton of these types of glyphs and I haven't been able to make much of a connection on dates, but I'm wondering if someone with more spatial awareness can make a connection on the shapes.

I also meant to throw in a disclaimer that most, if not all, of my shared images are coming from either here on ATS or www.lucypringle.co.uk ... I have no intention of making any money from any images and I am looking at them, and sharing them, for research purposes only... Fair use, and all that jazz... yadda, yadda, yadda

[edit on 24-11-2008 by Jay-in-AR]



posted on Nov, 24 2008 @ 07:07 PM
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Edit - I was being argumentive... Let's file "blue-beam" away for now and see if there is ANYTHING that comes back to it. (I highly doubt anything will, however, as it is purely speculative)


[edit on 24-11-2008 by Jay-in-AR]



posted on Nov, 24 2008 @ 08:47 PM
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Here's a fun little clue I found while doing crop circle research in line with researching Ed Leedskalnin (builder of Rockgate castle/Coral castle).





I'm beginning to think Ed knew the crop circle makers and they told him some things, (heck, maybe he was one of em, lol). For those who don't know anything about Ed Leedskalnin, google him. It may put a new perspective on your speculations/research of CCs. Free energy, antigravity, nature of the universe kinda stuff.

Well, !@#$% I can't get the images to come up... Oh well. Sry.

[edit on 24-11-2008 by Flux8]



posted on Nov, 24 2008 @ 11:25 PM
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The crop circle phenomena is indeed very curious but to study what is seen in all examples will in many cases be an exercise of futility.

Why try and second guess the motives behind such mischief ?

Surely it would be better to compile two lists and research only one, they will never be definitive but could form a reasonable guide - the unknowns and the probably manmade.

For the most part the probably manmade are easy enough to categorise, patterns in parallel to tractor tracks (whoever believed earlier the appearance of these tracks indicates a hoax is badly mistaken) or in alignment to tracks or other "markers"; those that do not exhibit other unexplainable phenomenon; where physical design is clearly apparent (holes in the centre of circles, physical crop damage); where common sense dictates (as in the binary code circles); etc.

You would then have a serious list of unknowns which, I suspect, could be further whittled down by comparing design, location and date to identify the specific groups (admittedly very talented and dedicated groups) who made them.

What you are then left with deserves real research. This would be original research seperated from the interested parties that currently exist in that field (excuse the pun).

That would be very worthwhile but unfortunately it's a damn sight harder than postulating wild theories about interdimensional space and time based on the fact that Dave's boot slipped on a dog turd so they had to make a second circle.



posted on Nov, 24 2008 @ 11:51 PM
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posted on Nov, 25 2008 @ 10:36 AM
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Good Post Op

Even though many of these are fake like the UFO phenomena itself, I also find that some just cant be...

anyhow the most interesting on for me this year was the infinity one, also related to numerology, and has many interesting parts of it related to magnetism and the solar system etc,

I did a thread with some good pic's and also some very good contributions by members here:

Huge 8 Crop Circle appears 08/08/08

I find this one in particular compelling and I am now after researching, meditating and reading this subject much for the last 20 odd years, both the ancient historical ones and 20th/21st C ones coming more to believe that in fact It may be spiritual, or from the earth itself....

If you get a chance dowse one that fits all the tests of being genuine, for example the corn bends etc, that will truly blow your mind :-)

Anyhow look at the link and bring in any info research you find relevant....


Kind regards

Elf.








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