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3 comments: firstly, the comments of a friend of a friend (60+yrs of age) who have been practising trancemediumship in the last 12-18months. said-People are taking too much interest in the construction rather than the messages. That some of it is reminding us of things- (I forgot the jist of this but will ask again in a day or two - I meet weekly). Essentially we are all spiritually connected- souls if you like. And..well I'll have to get refreshed to the jist of this.

secondly- I drove to Avebury,wiltshire one summer day in 2007, I had a day off and fancied somewhere quiet. I like the place with it's stone circles. Anyway,some of the village was not accessible to visitors, soon got bored..I did'nt walk to the westkennet longbarrow or silbury hill (perhaps I should have) I decided to drive some of the area looking for a circle as I'd never seen one in person - just west of Avebury I came across one-but it was a man-made advert. Apparently it was very difficult to make with a paid 'proffessional' team doing it.

thirdly- just look at some (prob most) circles - e.g. www.cropcircleconnector.com/2008/2008.html should get you going - they are just so huge and accurate,symmetrical, precise and complex-to put up in the dark!!! come on,

why does man still think he's alone, and the only intelligent (???) being around - partly for keeping sane I suppose. I still keep some skepticism just to be healthy I think. but lets just look at the night sky and face facts.

3 comments: firstly, the comments of a friend of a friend (60+yrs of age) who have been practising trancemediumship in the last 12-18months. said-People are taking too much interest in the construction rather than the messages. That some of it is reminding us of things- (I forgot the jist of this but will ask again in a day or two - I meet weekly). Essentially we are all spiritually connected- souls if you like. And..well I'll have to get refreshed to the jist of this.

secondly- I drove to Avebury,wiltshire one summer day in 2007, I had a day off and fancied somewhere quiet. I like the place with it's stone circles. Anyway,some of the village was not accessible to visitors, soon got bored..I did'nt walk to the westkennet longbarrow or silbury hill (perhaps I should have) I decided to drive some of the area looking for a circle as I'd never seen one in person - just west of Avebury I came across one-but it was a man-made advert. Apparently it was very difficult to make with a paid 'proffessional' team doing it.

thirdly- just look at some (prob most) circles - e.g. www.cropcircleconnector.com/2008/2008.html should get you going - they are just so huge and accurate,symmetrical, precise and complex-to put up in the dark!!! come on,

why does man still think he's alone, and the only intelligent (???) being around - partly for keeping sane I suppose. I still keep some skepticism just to be healthy I think. but lets just look at the night sky and face facts.

reply to post by Jay-in-AR


I have been viewing Crop Circles for over 2 years and they are very closley related to atomic pictures of Quasi Crystals. Ressonance in particle's. Sacred geometry.

The universe's language is math and the Real ones displkay this perfectly

Good Luck.

More immportantly the World is centralizing GOVT and returning to a facist state.

Good Luck all

Jay-in-AR,
Your communcation device is spot on..........

Not do I only do I see a fractual anntena which by the way no one will build for me, but I read somewhere that it holds the dimensions/specifications of the antena in the ratio of the circles.

Hope this helps

Thanks for the comments guys. I'm just out of bed and off to work now, but I'll respond, if I can, later on today.

I just wanted to make an input on this, so:

About this picture


This is connected to, well a lot, sacred geometry and religions throughout history. It is known as the Flower of Life.

As nothing "real" in this realm is 2D; The things most people overlook is that these are ment to be viewed in 3D, although printed upon a 2D plane.
The formation of this Flower of Life is made through a 3D structure wich is two tetrahedrals making a polarity within the space of a hexagon/sphere (as for the with the sphere in a 2D view; it's also known as the star of david). As for with the hexagonal structure we get the vector equilibrium geometry (only one possible).

Perfect


And when we look closer at it within the laws of fractality; added spheres to make it continious (as we start with the initial tetrahedrals within one sphere, we continue in a repetitive pattern).


At this point we can see the bubbles intersect, if we only would look at the volume that the intersection creates in 2D, we get the same structure as the first picture in this post.

There just so much that I feel I can't put to justice with my words that I'd strongly reccomend you to go through Nassims Harameins work. It will connect a lot of loose ends.

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Btw! Continious


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absolutly right, no human could possibly put a pattern on a corn field.
It is obviously the work of higher intelligence.

Wow...aliens coming millions of miles and decide to make designs in our crops. Never mind that humans have the capability of radio and television...etc. ...I cannot believe someone actually buys into this.

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lol, i just knew you would metion that man.. hes interesting. has
he done any other videos or stuff other than the more than 4 hour thing
wearing his purple shirt?

- i also have the impression that these circles is, mostly, made by either some form of alien life/alien technology, or by "us", with some kind of "weapon" or equipment that isnt publiced. maybe im crazy though?
personally i believe that most of them aren't man made, based on the symetrics and designs of some of them, seriously, have you guys seen them? and the "messages" incoded in some. this one link is truly incredible. i've read alot about it, and this one, in my opinion, is impossible to make with planks and all that other crap. watch the link another guys posted with Nassim H. from 2 h 5 min. ca.

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2
3 (it's called the queen here in denmark my father told me, because of the size etc.)
4
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just a few. what will the OP have me do?
stared and flagged


edited for spelling
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I agree the perfect crop circles cannot be produced by man,BUT is it not possible they could have been produced from one of the satelites circling the earth with the aid of a laser?
If a laser can produce a 3 dimensial design in a block of solid glass (you must have seen them ) what do you think?.

Crop circles have captured my interest for some time. I think the more elaborate ones are made by either aliens(yeah lol) or organizations tied with the illuminati. Why because of the mathmatics and symbolism involved. Why they make these, I have no clue other than some form of communication. Of course some are made by locals or students, however those are very sloppy and easily picked out from the more elaborate ones as you posted.

Not sure if anyone has seen on you tube the spinning crop circles. It is very interesting, take a look and jugde for yourself. Is there more than meets the eye????

www.youtube.com...

I've spent about 3 years looking into crop circles, some of you guys have really done well in producing some very interesting theories and ideas for how they are done / why they are done / what they mean.

My problem is (and the reason i gave up looking further to them) how do you know that 'circle a' is real and 'circle b' is man-made?

If you cant tell the difference between the two, then you could end up pouring time, effort, and mental/spiritual thought into a design which was quite literally sketched out by some £!%! hoaxer?

There are a few I believe are 110% genuine, and I have been very successful in meditation using them.

Whereas there are other circles that Lucy Pringle and Whitley Strieber are infatuated with and the honest truth is, they could have been thought up and mapped out over a pint in the local.

I do believe Crop Circles are real, I do believe it is worth researching them, my question is: If it is near impossible to tell the difference between a hoax and real one... then how can you possibly do any solid research?!

---On a side note, I've ALWAYS wanted the 1991
Barbury Castle Crop circle to be genuine. I saw some images that led me to wonder whether it was a hoax... I hope it isn't, I see a lot of information held in it... If ANYONE has any info on this circle, even if it is just weblinks, please U2U ANY information you have on this circle to me.

Thanks for reading guys.

TGG

I agree that making this a research topic would keep out the trolls and debunkers, but it would also prevent anyone who doesn't have the Scholar tag from helping or contributing.

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1.Aliens would have to travel light years - unless they left from their bases on the moon or mars - then they would have travelled thousands of miles.
2. who said anything about aliens?
3.their are dimensions that are supposed to co-exist with ours, SOME of the circles will have been made by something. Hoaxers in my country have said repeatedly in the past about specific,impressive circles- that they don't know who made it and wished they could have. Word travels faster than you think in the countryside.
4.other dimensions and indeed our very existence have been explained in many languages - far back in history my friend.
5.look at cropcircleconnector,for example. the area, especially if it's fresh gets inspected for trademark signs of 'man's' activity. Some seem to be squeaky clean.
6.can you honestly look at some massive complex crop diagram (much more than circles really) and see a couple of students making it at night?
7.why do many governments take the subject quite seriously? maybe someone well connectedout there could dig up some examples from declassified reports.

Crop circles was what awakened my curiousity in Math. At high school I couln't care less. Study Math and lots of the Crop Circle codes can be reveiled.

Real Crop Circles always lay on or next to Leylines
Leylines are Earth's Grid Lines

Manmade Circles have 'normal' bending stems and the stems are mostly cracked.
Real Crop Circles have bent corn with unusal joints. The joints look like they are exploded. And their is a change in the crop's DNA (they check that f.e. 6 months - 1 year later)


TIP for beginners: Crop Circle - A Beginners Guide by Hugh Manistre
www.scribd.com...

Crop Circles, Gods and Their Secrets: History of Mankind, Written in the Grain by R. Boerman - He uses Math, Numerology, Astrology and Kabbalah (every character is a LETTER, a SOUND and a NUMBER) to decode Crop Cicles Messages and he meassures the Bovis (Energy) Value in and around the Crop Circles.
www.amazon.com...


Earth Grid Energy & Math - Cropcircle related (It's a THEORY!):
video.aol.com...

Very good idea to make this thread

Originally posted by Perseus Apex
Tractors made those images. You can see the tiremarks/roads created through all the images. I thought this was common knowledge by now? If there weren't tire tracks, perhaps it would be more believable, cause I doubt one would go to all the manual labor to make images that large. A tractor could do that in one day. I own one though not we're I currently reside lol.

When one lives in the country, they find all kinds of way to pass their time, including laughing at the conspiracy theories and cashing those interview checks and banking those tourism dollars.


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Um, no? Some of them are manmade but some of them aren't, you can tell because the grass has been pushed down weird or has been singed. It's weird. It could be manmade another way, but not a tractor.

I don't think they are man made. I starred and flagged the thread, and I'll contribute the best I can.



[edit on 11/24/2008 by ravenshadow13]

Actually, new post.

In my experience it seems that most people believe crop circles are not made by man, given all the proof that has come up in the scientific community.

The majority of those people think they are made by ETs. Do you think one of you could find the original source of this theory? I have also heard others, and I too have a great interest in ley lines. Other explanations range from geothermal activity to wind. I'm not too keen on those explanations.

A few years back, in 2003 or 2004, it was possible to view (via livestream) a field in Poland where often Crop Circles appeared. I saw that ' ligthing ' and small light balls formed within seconds a Crop Circle in that field.

IF one states that flying / floating Light Balls are also UFO (which in fact they are because we still dont know exactly WHAT they are) we could say indeed dat UFO's form natural Crop Circles.

I believe these light balls are Etherical forms of Energy or maybe Dimensional objects. For long I thought they were Biological but till now there's is NO biological evidence to prove that. That's why I changed my mind about it.

Robbert van der Broeke & Elto Hasselhof (psysicist PhD) about this subject: Light froms Crop Circles (with someactual footage):


nl.youtube.com...

reply to post by Jay-in-AR


Yeah, i stood inside a crop circle here in oregon back in the early 90's. it was realy weird it was close to nike headquarters off hwy 26 in hillsboro the news came out and it hit the papers. it was not a fake. i was standing in it before mass people came and walked all over it. it felt very energized. i have tried to get more data recently but have not looked hard enough. back then i was more worried about being young than being interested in something larger than me. i would love nothing more to help. now i realize how unique my experience was.