Did Hitler Really Die In the Bunker or in Argentina?

I watched MysteryQuest as well and the top of the skull was of a woman between the ages of 20 and 30 so perhaps it's Eva's they also took some blood samples from the remains of the couch that Hitler and Eva sat in it was the same blood type as his I think what the Russians have is the remains of Eva Braun skull and Hitler's blood they burned his and the others bodies and tossed them in the Elbe they only preserved what they thought was Hitler's skull.

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Ok serious they don't need to whole skull to tell whether or not who it was. You don't need all the blood from the person at a crime seen. So use your brain think seriously Eva Braun was 30 the DNA said it was a 20 year old woman. So it wasn't Eva and also the official report says Eva didn't shoot herself Hilter did so they have a fragment that is plenty enough DNA the skull had a bullet hole so it had to be someone else that was executed. I watched the show and they said the skull was a girl around 20 not 30 and Eva didn't shoot herself she just used poison. Fatherland is not an accurate movie. The witnesses says both used poison but hitler also shot himself. And the blood on the couch was a males blood but because they couldn't get enough DNA off that because it was so worn away and not much blood remained in the fabric that they couldn't tell if it was hitler's blood type. So that makes it that hitler most likely made it out and that those were fakes hitler's doubles.


If you don't believe me look at this it says her age and cause of death, it says 30 years old and cyanide poisoning, no gunshot:
en.wikipedia.org...

And for blood they don't know hitler's exact blood type but her is what they say about probablity and that it is popular the ones that they say he had:
wiki.answers.com...'s_Blood_Type
wiki.answers.com...'s_blood_type
www.bloodbook.com...

Originally posted by Truther

Both the US and the British Government have systematically covered up the operation. Why? Did they take Hitler to Patagonia?'

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Why do they would hide Hitler ?
He was not a scientic.

Unles they wanted someone to speak in hours as cure for insomnia.

"Both the US and the British Government have systematically covered up the operation. Why? Did they take Hitler to Patagonia?' "

No, they covered it up because they have spent decades enjoying his awesome keyboard playing.

As all those who grew up in the 70's know, Hitler hid out in plain sight :

See here for incontrovertible evidence :

www.youtube.com...

He looks remarkably good for his age....though a little worried. Who can blame him?

I have to come back here to eat my own words... Turns out there is no longer evidence of Hitler's remains. Anything is possible.

New evidence suggests the skull held by Russia's KGB was not male, but female and since Eva Braun was not shot it could not have been her skull either.

BBC report on Hitler's Skull

It seems the last aircraft out of Berlin was a Ju-352 on 29 April 1945, whilst the last flying boat was a Bv138 of III/KG200 on 1 May 1945 from Lake Havel.

At least six Ju-352 aircraft were flying into and out of Berlin from 25-29 April 1945, plus two Ju-52 of Fliegers des Fuhrers (F.d.F.) The FdF also operated two FW200 condors and two Ju-290 aircraft into the East West Axis. At Havelsee a unit of Ju-52 floatplanes and Bv-138 operated evacuations to Rugen and Denmark.

I now have to concede that although there's no dependable evidence Hitler escaped, there is no longer a strong argument that he did not. If he had wished to he could have. It is hard to imagine however that his escape could be kept secret all this time.

reply to post by Ign0rant



He changed the 20th centry in so many ways. Often Claimed to be the most evil man in the world. Wouldn't you like to know the fate of such a man?

Hitler, Borman & Antarctica explained simply.

For Hitlers escape to have been facilitated he would need leverage and cash. Now their is strong evidence Borman did escape and his remains were returned to berlin at a later date.

en.wikipedia.org...

We now know that a lot of what was accepted as conclusive proof of hitlers death is flimsy or wrong

www.youtube.com...

Also it is common knowledge Admiral Donitz made some rather strange statements regarding Hitler after the war that in many quarters were taken seriously

www.bibliotecapleyades.net...

We also have the strange and mysterious operation high jump.

en.wikipedia.org...

The nazi rat run and many reports of the nazi money trail

www.youtube.com...

And the continueed work of Mengele

www.telegraph.co.uk...

My theory is simple once the war was certainly lost

1. Hitler instructed Bormann to set up a network of companys to move the bulk of German capital out of Germany.

2. He instructed Donitz to build a research and development base in the Arctic to finish work on 2 key projects the A-Bomb and terrestrial flying discs.

3. With the war lost he escapes and with allies in the church sets up a network to facilitate the escape of his most loyal followers leaveing those in the high command who "failed" him to carry the can.

4. Uses money from companys to fund the nazi's in exile while helping to rebuild Germany from afar.

5. Uses completed research as his bargainig chip to live out life peacefully along with the others whom escaped

6. To seal the deal facilitates further remaining German assets to help fight the cold war, setting in motion his final victory or the communists

7. Hilter retires, in the knowledge that R&d carried out or still ongoing would if the time was ver right facilitate the return of the Reich.

Why would Hitler bother to freeze his nuts off in Antarctica when the jungles of Paraguay are warm and inviting?

reply to post by sy.gunson


No antartica was just for R&D, he lived in south America somewhere is what i believe, he would know he couldnt hide but if you got a A-Bomb or super weapon ( flying disc etc ) you can buy your safety.

It may be true
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VonDoomen you crack me up. Just a truckie on his lunch break. Offer him a movie contract though. The real Hitler would be long gone by now.

Interesting point though is what happened to his double?
I understand for security reasons he had a double to stand in for him.

I downloaded some very cool files from the British archives last night in it was a very interesting report on Hitlers death in 1944. i can not upload them, have tried, but any one who is interested i can email them to you.

This surprisingly actually does look like an aged Hitler. The ear lobes are a little different but you ears and nose always grow. He looks really sick in this picture like he needs medical attention. If this is really him he wont be alive very much longer

reply to post by QuidEstVerita


Looks like but is not, its a fairly modern camera no way could he have lived that long.

well i'm posting 'cos i just read a news online. I'm from Argentina. We have a really known actor here (well he was born in uruguay), his name is Carlos Perciavalle, and he said some days ago that in the 1970s he was in Bariloche (an argentinian city in Patagonia) and he saw Hitler and Eva Braun, he didn't say anything until now because he was afraid. He says that he was doing some work in a play, and was invited to meet the owner of a hotel over there, he was taken to some place where he saw them. I'll post the link to the news, they are in spanish, don't know if any english newspaper posted it.

www.26noticias.com.ar...

and

www.minutouno.com.ar...

both articles say basically the same.

It's really weird over here, my country was a place where a lot of people came back in the 70s to escape from other places. It's said that Elvis Presley lived here, there are people saying that they saw him arrive, and while he was living here. There's a book that a journalist made with 10 years of investigations, and proofs but misteriously it isn't available anywhere, the book is impossible to get, like if someone was trying to make it dissapear.

Well this is fun.

reply to post by MacSkywalker


Do not recall seeing it in any U.K papers, but i must admidt it is fairly cool, wish he could add more details to it.
certainly fits with a lot of peoples thinking. would also love to see that book, proof is the main thing lacking, and any information or proof could go a long way.

I am currently in Buenos Aires for the next several weeks, I have spent much time in South America over the past few years and I can confirm the following:

1. It seems common knowledge in Argentina that Hitler survived and fled here after the war along with Martin Bormann and thousands of high ranking Nazi's. Apparently, it has been reported that about 300,000 Nazi's escaped Europe to South America after the war!

2. Huge secured compounds exists where the surviving families of the Nazi's continue to live and carry out many experiments, throughout South America like Colonia Dignidad near the village of Parral in Chile, as well as large German/Nazi communities in Patagonia, Buenos Aires (suburbs), Brazil, Paraguay and Ecuador.

3. Martin Bormann was a close personal friend of Peron and attended his funeral. There are many versions as to how Bormann escaped from Berlin, some claim that he died others that he escaped. Bormann's final fate remained an enigma until 1996 when a passport was found in Chile with Bormann's photo but under the name of Ricardo Bauer.

4. Former Nazi commanders were employed by dictator governments throughout the region to train death squads and as many were employed as government advisors.

5. Argentina issued thousands of passports, just before the end of WW2 to many high ranking Nazi's.

6. Most of the Nazi loot found its way into South America after the war. German companies have been huge here since the late 40's, think why? Volkswagon set up and produced the Beetle throughout Central and South America, it was there largest market outside Germany.

More questions arise:. Just who was Father Krespi???? Research! One thing about Wendelle Stevens (may he R.I.P.) i don't think he was a liar!

Research the Vatican 'Ratlines'

Research the movements of the German U-boats at the end and after the war! Especially U977 and U530

We now know that the remains were neither Hitlers or Braun's Skull. Proof that Nazi's lived out there lives in South America in relative freedom can be proved beyond doubt. Mengele was the most hunted Nazi but was well protected and also worked for the US after the war. He lived in New York for a time posing as a Jewish war victim (until his cover was blown by a Jewish doctor who was forced to work alongside him in at Auschwitz, who accidently bumped into him on the street and started screaming hysterically as recognition dawned).

Researchers have long claimed that U.S. intelligence "smuggled" Nazis into Latin America while first establishing their base of covert operations there in the early days of the cold war. According to an article by Reverend Damuzi, who cites Alexander Cockburn and Jeffrey St Clair's 1998 book, "Whiteout: the CIA, Drugs and the Press" (pp 167-185): Nazis in South America Klaus Barbie, the infamous "Butcher of Lyons", drowned some of his victims by shoving their heads in toilets full of piss and # while his trained German Shepherd, "Wolf", tore off their genitals with its teeth. Barbie was not tried as a war criminal after WWII. The CIA had a use for him. Rescued from a post-war "death row" by the CIA and imported to Bolivia with help from the Catholic Church, Barbie was to become a central figure in establishing corporate control of South America.

Barbie's specialty was suppressing internal strife; he had been a high-ranking member of the Einsatzgruppen, death squads which purged Jews from lands newly conquered by the Nazis. Newly installed in Bolivia, Klaus Barbie began training paramilitaries in the same death-squad style tactics he had pioneered in Nazi Germany. He went straight from the service of Hitler to the service of corporate greed.

The first victims of Barbie's renewed rampages in South America were striking labour unions representing tin miners in Bolivia in the 1960's. His death squads went on to squash other revolutionary movements in Bolivia throughout the 60's and 70's, ensuring that US-friendly rulers dominated the seats of power.

Suppressing labour interests in South America was the first step in securing corporate power, but it also had the effect of creating paramilitary death squads that would later be used to suppress the peasants and indigenous peoples who would oppose full-scale free trade. Barbie's training methods effectively became the template for both military and paramilitary training all across South and Central America. Barbie's methods also became the template for US death squads in Vietnam, known as the "Phoenix" program.

Whilst Nazi hunters were looking for Joseph Mengele (The Dr. of Death), Klaus Barbie and Eichmann, no one was looking for Hitler long thought to have been dead, but was he?

so they DIDN'T save Hitler's brain!?

reply to post by Hongkongphooey


Star for that my friend. You gave me an entire evening of research , sorry sarah lol.

Once as a teenager I entered the trophy room of an ex-nazi officer by mistake. There was a picture of him with Hilter in there amongst the uniforms and medals. The grandaughter of this girl was very upset I had found this room and they immediatly left town. So, yeah, I bet Hitler escaped to South America. He may still be alive, hanging out with Elvis, Saddam and Bin Ladin.