Did Hitler Really Die In the Bunker or in Argentina?

This is very interesting, is this hitler in photo at the age of 90.

It sure as hell looks like him thats for sure.



'After WW II, at least five German U-boats reached Argentina with no less than 50 high ranked Third Reich officials on board. During the trip they sunk a US battle ship and the Brazilian cruiser Bahia with a death toll of more than 400, including US citizens.

Both the US and the British Government have systematically covered up the operation. Why? Did they take Hitler to Patagonia?'

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Nope, don't think it's him. Nose is too rounded at the front to be Hitler's and the ear lobes are larger than Hitler's.
Someone correct me if needed since I haven't been able to find anything on possible effects of aging on physical looks.

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There is no telling where he died. He could have easily escaped the bunker. I don't know why people are so hell bent on knowing where Hitler died. All we should concern ourselves with is that he is dead and never let what occurred because of him happen again.

-Ign0ranT

Well, as people grow older, their ears and noses do continue to grow, but I doubt this is a pic of Hitler. He did have syphilis, didn't he? Doubt he would live as long as 90 years with such a disease. But, hey. I am just speculating.

Originally posted by Ign0rant
There is no telling where he died. He could have easily escaped the bunker.

How? The Russians had pretty much encircled Berlin in April 1945. Or are you thinking he escaped prior to that?

Back in 1995-1997 internet surfing I came across a website that had a story about Hitler surviving WW2. It stated that he was hidden away at the Vatican (Italy supported Germany during WW2) a became a Vatican historian. It went on to tell of an elaborate funeral in 1981 that only a person who would be near saint hood would receive. It had a picture of the man being buried who had remarkably similar features to Hitler. It was several pages in length and whomever wrote the article appeared very informed. I have never been able to find this article again. If anyone knows / finds please post as I would like to read again. Trust me, I have googled all kinds of phrases trying to find it.

A friend of mine who worked in the catering industry in Argentina told me that Hitler did escape to Argentina and lived out his days at a palatial estate in the jungle near the Brazilian border.

He said that he worked a dinner which was held in Hitler's honor in the early 1970s, attended by Martin Borman and other high ranking Nazis whose names he didn't know.

There were also high ranking Argentinian army officers in attendance and a couple of American businessmen and one congressman in attendance as well as several europeans.

The names of everyone were not known to the catering staff but there were protocols involved in the seating plan at Hitler's table, so the catering staff had to know something about the rank and importance of the guests. Despite that, he said that the overall tone of the dinner was informal, largely due to the amiability of the Fuhrer.

His own job involved the wine service and dealing with the guest's requirements for drinks both during and after the meal. There was also a gentleman who had come down from the United States who was a Cuban exile. His job was to hand roll cigars for whoever wanted them during the evening.

My friend said that quite an intense discussion began after dinner. It started with Hitler and Borman, when Borman tried to interest Hitler in an attempt to regain power in Germany, with, as he insisted, US backing.

Hitler at first demurred saying that he knew his time had past and that he wasn't sure he still had the energy for it, but Borman kept wheedling at him and soon, he said, everybody at the table joined in flattering Hitler and pleading with him to return.

Finally, Borman, practically crawling across the table, groveling, said,

"Bleeeeze, bleeeeze, mein Fuhrer, one more time vor Chermany. The beeeble loff you."

Hitler looked at him sideways and said, "Reeelly?"

Borman said, "Yesss, yesss!"

At that Hitler sprang to his feet, eyes bulging, and smashed his fist down on the table shouting,

"Alright, but on one condition!"

"What is it mein Fuhrer? Vat issss it? Vee vill do anyzing, anyzing you vish."

"The condition is this. NO MORE MISTER NICE GUY!!!"

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"The condition is this..... FIND MY OTHER BALL!"

In all seriousness it is possible that Hitler lived on for a a while after the war, anything is possible in this world.

This Argentina story is interesting and it does make some sense, i think that Hitler and the other high ranking members of the Nazi party would of had back-up and escape plans in the event that the war turned in the enemy's favor.

My idea is that perhaps Hitler was actually captured and interogated after to the events of the bunker.
Hitler could of struck a deal that in exchange for being allowed to live out his life somewhere (in this case Argentina) he would divulge everything he knew about the whereabouts of certain scientists and what they were working on.
It would make sense.

Syphilis was treatable at the time. In those days they used Mercury (which probably contributed to Hitler's wackiness), starting in the 1930s they used Penicillin which I believe remains the standard treatment to this day.

I believe that Hitler died in the bunker, the Russians currently have pieces of his skull with the 9mm bullet hole.

Bormann was killed as he tried to escape.

[edit on 23-11-2008 by ChrisF231]

Neither. He actually lived for many years after the war and lived long enough to see his son Barack Obama born in Kenya before he finally died. Leni Riefenstahl filmed the birth whilst Khrushchev acted as midwife. Obama's first words were "automatic weapons ban" and Hitler choked back the tears as he said "that's my boy".

What? Of course it's true! I read it on ATS!

I read the book by Jim Marrs "Rise of the Fourth Reich" and it tells a very will written account of Hitler's escape from Germany and the fortune he brought with him. I recommend this book. He tells a very interesting story how Nazi Germany still holds power in the USA today.

Nazi = Neocon

It wouldnt surprise me if the story of him commiting suicide etc was simply fabricated by the Russians,and these people trying to ridicule this topic can take their inflated ego's somewhere else.There is no solid evidence for this,but alot of eye witness reports among other things do add a suspicion factor atleast.

I think it is very unlikely that Adolf Hitler would have lived to be 90 even if he survived the WWII. His health was hardly great, he was a drug addict and also got medical treatment that must have made his problems even worse:

Unbeknownst to most people today, and especially to many Germans at the time, Hitler suffered from several medical ailments. In 1934, the young Schutzstaffel officer and surgeon Dr. Karl Brandt, assisted by Professor Werner Haase, was assigned as his escort physician. Professor Theodore Morell, who was reputed for syphilis treatment prescription, became Hitler's physician and a member of the Fuhrer's inner circle by the late 1930s and may have been responsible for worsening his health.

Hitler suffered from at least two health problems when he first met Morell, including gastro-intestinal pain with accompanying flatulence, which has also been attributed to his vegetarian diet, and skin lesions on his thighs. Later during the war, while still under Morell's care, he developed an irregular heartbeat and aggressive tremors throughout the left side of his body. He also became dependent on methamphetamines that Morell supplied to him daily with other compounds, including Nux Vomica which contains strychnine. Initially described as "vitamultin", the mix later became "vitamultin forte". This was administered via injection and small tablets packaged in gold wrappers. By 1945, Hitler was addicted to coc aine as well, which Morell applied via eye drops. Other attending doctors are known to have criticized Morell, only to be brushed off by Hitler. During the 1920s and 1930s in Germany, both coc aine and methamphetamines were routinely prescribed for many ailments.

www.experiencefestival.com...

You can also read about his mental health here:
www.experiencefestival.com...

Originally posted by Merriman Weir
Neither. He actually lived for many years after the war and lived long enough to see his son Barack Obama born in Kenya before he finally died. Leni Riefenstahl filmed the birth whilst Khrushchev acted as midwife. Obama's first words were "automatic weapons ban" and Hitler choked back the tears as he said "that's my boy".

What? Of course it's true! I read it on ATS!

ROFLMAO!!!!


Yep..thats IT!!!!



Cheers!!!!

Actually there were lots of Nazis in Argentina at that time. There are still lots of them. There was even an Inn which was run by close friends of Hitler, and a lot of accounts like that, wish I had the link of this. Í'll search and post.
It's sort of an urban legend in Argentina that Hitler escaped there, since the country has a lot of Nazi refugees, dictator Peron himself being pro-nazi. And there are lots of germans too, so there is quite a large community where he could have been "at home".

Adolf Hitler and Eva Braun, commited suicide by the 'pistol and poison' method. Then their bodies were burned outside the bunker. It is known that a strange phenomenon caused Eva Brauns body to sort of sit up in what is called the 'jockey position'.
These events are described in detail by the author James P O'Donnel in his book, The Bunker. Check it out here:
books.google.com... i=book_result&resnum=12&ct=result#PPP1,M1

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maybee someone used age progression software

Originally posted by spookjr
Adolf Hitler and Eva Braun, commited suicide by the 'pistol and poison' method. Then their bodies were burned outside the bunker. It is known that a strange phenomenon caused Eva Brauns body to sort of sit up in what is called the 'jockey position'.
These events are described in detail by the author James P O'Donnel in his book, The Bunker. Check it out here:
books.google.com... i=book_result&resnum=12&ct=result#PPP1,M1

I remember watching something about that on sky. I think the Russians have him now

Originally posted by Its Blue Nose
I remember watching something about that on sky. I think the Russians have him now

The Russians had his body until 1970. One night, they cremated it and scattered the ashes in a river (I think the Elbe, but not sure).

They are suppose to have a chunk of his skull, but that's been questioned.

Several couriers with Hitler's last will and testament including Col Niklaus von Below (sent by Hitler to arrest Goering) did escape the night of 30 April/1 May 1945. Von Below flew from an island in lake Havel in a Bv138 flying boat.

Hitler could have escaped but I am certain he chose to stay and die. Hitler felt he had been betrayed.

A soviet Intelligence colonel Lev Brymenski revealed during the Cold War that SS General Wilhelm Mohnke attempted to negotiate with Zuhkov under a flag of truce for Hitler to escape to Japan. Hitler offered to capitulate all of northern Germany and Denmark to the Soviets in return for his escape. The Soviets turned down that request.

In his book O'Donnell cited Speer saying that Baur (Hitler's Pilot) had serious plans to fly Hitler out on 23, 28 and 29 April 1945 (P.251). Speer also quoted Baur himself after the war saying "right up to the last day I could have flown the Fuhrer anywhere in the world". Hitler however was determined to stay and commit suicide.

Hitler died in Berlin. Chapter closed...

What endlessly fascinates me is that the skull dug up at Invaliden Strasse Berlin in 1972 and later DNA confirmed as Martin Bormann's had red volcanic soil impacted inside it. Hands up boys and girls how many volcanoes there are in Berlin ?