Massive object crashes over Edmonton, Canada

reply to post by Unknown Truth

That really doesn't look like what I saw.

I doubted it did, thanks for clearing that up. Just wanted people to be able to compare some of the images with a video of a meteor, I’ve looked at the other comparisons in this thread and it doesn’t sound like people saw a meteor to me. But that’s just my opinion, and I totally take you at your word.

Often people mistake space debris and meteors for UFOs but some of the descriptions seem to differ from those previous mistakes. I’ll be interested to see more video, maybe one that gives a clear shot of the object in flight for more than a few seconds, so we can see the trail that is beyond it better-so we can see if this resembles the kind of smoky trail you see behind debris or a meteor, can’t see one in the video but some, like you, described one.




[edit on 20-11-2008 by rapinbatsisaltherage]

please dont laugh... maybe it was blossom goodchilds friends?


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[edit on 20/11/2008 by Sauron]

Cool find probably just a meteor, of course many skeptics question that...

Originally posted by ProfEmeritus
The PEAK was on the 17th. Meteors can be seen for any of the annual meteor shower events anywhere from 1 to 5 days on either side of the peak time.

You are correct, but we can rule out the Leonids, as the Leonid radiant was well below the horizon at the time. 18 seconds is also a very long tome for a Leonid.

However, The Taurid radiant (or radiants technically as there are two branches to the Taurid meteor stream) was just above the horizon at 17:30 PM local time in Edmonton. This also tallies with the fireball being seen to "travel parallel to the horizon". Meteors belonging to a shower can only appear to travel low and parallel to the horizon when the meteor shower's "radiant" (in Taurus since we are talking about Taurids) is not far above the horizon.

Here's a snapshot of a small part of the horizon as an observer in Edmonton looking East would have seen it at 17:30 on the 20th:


I've marked roughly where the two Taurid radiants would be in red.

Originally posted by MoonMine

Originally posted by Ironclad
300mph?

Dude, if this were a chunk of space rock, it would be doing a damn sight more than 300mph.

Your looking as a couple of thousand mph.

No Sir.

Terminal velocity for a non streamlined object should not exceed around 320Mph. Unless it is a (very) streamlined rock, in which case it should still be well below "thousand Mph".

Reference skydiver: Tv = aox. 200Mph

Air resistance / Friction / Brakes.

First of all, it depends at what stage of the flight of the meteoroid you are talking about...

This looks like a slow one, so it would have started out at around 15-25 km/s probably. If it survived long enough, it would have ceased to become luminous when it lost most of it's cosmic velocity (at around 1km/s I believe). Soon after that it would have decelerated to free fall velocity as Ironclad pointed out.

Originally posted by Nox Vulpes
I knew the C.H.U.D. would sort it out. Very good information again, thanks. We can still hope, right? Just for the night?

Always a pleasure Nox

There is nothing for any of us to worry about, the chances of more this size are low, and anything big enough to threaten us is even less likely. The chances of being killed by a meteor are extremely remote

Having said that, there is always the potential for a real hit from a big enough rock to do damage. The chances are so low that it's better not to worry about it and to go out and enjoy the show. Some more bright fireballs may well be seen at this time... so keep watching and you may get lucky

Originally posted by whoshotJR
From the video above it looks like it did actually hit the ground.

Shouldn't something the size of the meteor in the video make a damn big whole if it was even a medium density ?

ignore the post. Somebody posted an old video.

Not to worry, but this provides a good opportunity to demonstrate why meteorites, if they did survive to the ground, will be a long way away from anywhere where the meteor appeared close to the horizon, ie. Alberta



It's only when you see a meteor extinguish close to overhead that you should consider running for cover, or if you saw a "point meteor" that continues to increase in brightness rapidly and unabatedly, in which case you may as well enjoy the last few seconds of your life witnessing something no one in living history has ever seen before

That this meteor was seen over a wide area is not that unusual, when you take into account the altitude meteors are visible at. They are basically only visible in the upper atmosphere. Usually, on encountering the lower atmosphere where the air is more dense, if they have not already, they self-destruct, which is what this one seems to have done, and I do believe that sonic booms were heard which points to something surviving and possibly making it down to the ground or sea bed.

reply to post by red_leader


Is this sighting anywhere near Banff National Forest?

a meteor seen over virginia when i was younger was seen by lots of people as green...

[edit on 20-11-2008 by borachon]

i found this... not much

Mysterious bright light seen over Edmonton
Laura Drake, edmontonjournal.com
Published: 9:06 pm
EDMONTON - It wasn't a bird and it wasn't a plane, but whatever it was in the skies over the city last night was far more exciting than either of those.

People across western Canada reported seeing a bright flaming object light up the sky around 5:30 p.m. Thursday. It was variously described as green, yellow, purple and blue and appeared as either an explosion or an object streaking through the sky. Sightings came from across the prairies; from as far south as Medicine Hat and as far north as Beauval, Sask., 600 kilometres from Edmonton.

Edmonton International Airport spokesman Jim Rudolph said "the skies east of the airport lit up" at 5:27 p.m.

What about Hubble, Spitzer or other large telescopes?? Is it possible that thy captured images of this?

Very strange looking, it looks like something large and solid landed, after it exploded. Can't wait to hear more on this, expecially when they find it!

there was just a news update on global edmonton.. looks like they got video from a police cars dash cam... it looks far more impressive... local news is about to start in 3 minutes...

[edit on 21-11-2008 by xynephadyn]

Originally posted by cdnguy
there was just a news update on global edmonton.. looks like they got video from a police cars dash cam... it looks far more impressive... local news is about to start in 3 minutes...

sweet cant wait to see it

reply to post by cdnguy


I just seen that too!

I can hardly wait to hear more on this. I only hope whatever it is, and wherever it is, we are given the whole truth regarding it.

there are numerous videos now.... one from a handheld and one from a police car...

wow the video is unbeleivable!!!!

I had a great view of this traveling east on Anthony Henday drive which is the main freeway circling edmonton. when it appeared to finally break up into 3 smaller pieces it looked like it terminated slightly north of the freeway according to my perspective.

My guess is that something definitely made it to the ground.

I was west of its path, so it looked to me that it was falling at a 45 degree angle.

I witnessed the 1970's meteor and that one seemed to fall at a 10 or 20 degree angle.

This seemed like it fell at a very sharp angle.

I wish I could have got on ATS earlier but I was out on a emergency service call and couldn't get home

edit: C.H.U.D. feel free to u2u me if you got any questions....big fan of your posts

[edit on 21-11-2008 by wrathchild]

They are confirming it is a meteorite...

they are also saying it is likely fragements made it to the ground... a search is on-going...

[edit on 21-11-2008 by cdnguy]

I haven't read the entire thread because I wanted to see what the local news has and they are showing the video. It was a huge fireball that lite up the night sky. The governemnt will be searching for the impact site.
I'm watching Global news in Calgary

[edit on 21-11-2008 by venividivici]

Here's a short collection of two videos joined together, found in a google search for "Canada meteor" videos uploaded today:
Youtube video - "Better footage"
One of the news anchors says that a search for the landing site is currently underway. I really think this one did hit the ground, whatever it was.

Originally posted by xynephadyn
Possible point of impact found on Google Earth---
this is either a rock quarry or a possible point of impact of "something".
It does not match up to the other body's of water in the area.
This is just north of Edmonton.

i127.photobucket.com...

Google Earth Coordinates:
53, 49'32.86" N
112, 16'36.08"W

Wow... nicely done. I applaud your investigation efforts, but I have to play devil's advocate here and mention that it's almost definitely not a current satellite image you're looking at. It isn't a live feed; the images compiled for Google Earth are simply the most recent satellite or aerial photographs of any given region, and they're almost always at least a couple of years old. You might be able to find the date and publishing info for the image you've found, somewhere in there.

[edit on 21-11-2008 by Magnus47]

chances are it has hit a farmers field....most likely nothing will be found until it becomes light out...