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Originally posted by Allred5923
reply to post by malignant_tumor
I would like to know how you maintain your constitutions of this being written off as a hoax so quickly, and adamently as well. I have emailed Rob, the original Filmer of this footage, I have not heard nothing from him yet, but as soon as I do, you guy's will be the first too know of his reply.
I also asked him to join us here at the ATS forums to defend his footage and his experience's, with some validation, maybe we will all accept thing's as a higher and more complicated plain of existence that kind of turns our "Self Proclaimed" reality may not be as cut and dry as one would think.
er... are we still talking about the op footage here? if so, I can't wait for 'Rob' to come on here and defend this footage as that of an aerial craft.
It's obviously a forest fire on a distant hill.
I have no doubt but that the guy who shot it knows this.
Theres plenty good footage of ufos out there -- this footage, and this thread, is a waste of time.
Originally posted by TeslaandLyne
Tesla 'bulbs', solid hemispheres of aluminum, focus incoming charges for
motion in that direction. Not moving the charged craft still has a charge
collection around the bulb in Tesla's Radiant Energy Patent, look it up. Light
come from electrons, look up Edison. That Tesla craft is at plasma voltages
and look that up with the cartels holding on to Tesla's atomic gas physics.
Originally posted by eniac
I would like to know how you maintain your constitutions of this being written off as a hoax so quickly, and adamently as well.
Originally posted by Allred5923
Mopusvendictus and milignant,
I truly appreciate your input and efforts towards concluding this event as an other explainable situation, but for me , it has rattled my world to the core, I have seen this thing (At least very close to it)
Re: recent reader, first time inquiry..Sunday, November 23, 2008 8:01 PM
From: This sender is DomainKeys verified "[email protected]" Add sender to Contacts To: [email protected]: "Paula Schermerhorn" , "James Smith " , "Farah Yurdozu " , "Rob Kritkausky"
Bill- First of all thanks for contacting me. We have been to Rob's house and the location and I can vouch it is for real. While I was there I actually saw a flying triangle come out between the two peaks behind the Sandra Day O'Connor High School. It was my first sighting. I have not heard from Rob in quite some time, we still have lots of audio and some video in connection with this story that we will be doing along with an update on Rob sometime after the first of the year and before the Phoenix Lights anniversary. I personally am convinced it is real and not a brush fire or any other thing but a definiite UFO with some evidence of super natural events surroundign these sightings as well.Jerry www.jerrypippin.comwww.ipodshows.net ----- Original Message -----
From: Bill Allred To: [email protected] Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2008 7:04 PMSubject: recent reader, first time inquiry..
Hello Mr. Pippin,I am emailing in regards t a very debated discussion on an individual that goes by the name of Mr. Rob Kritkausky, "Are you familiar?"He was debuted on one of your web pages for your show and he had had a sighting that was caught on tape near his home in Phoenix AZ.It was, what appears to be a UFO flying in a low trajectory over some hill-ed areas and had a light post and some trees in the frame, it was a night sighting, thus leaving little evidence of the true angle and little ability of triangulation of verifying this particular incident.I for one think that is a for real and respectable video of this craft, and I have some of my associates finding it hard to believe that it is anything but a "Brush Fire" in the hills of the local surroundings. Of which I do not see, with the angle of the camera and how far back the mountain/ hill line is from the daytime and night time shots.I have written to Rob personally and have not received a response from him thus far, and with limited connections to being able to settle this in a timely fashion, you are my last hope."Was this video debunked, or is it still at large for the exact nature of what this object/video may be?"You can find the discussion I am speaking of here, I am Allred5923 in the posters column on the left hand side of the pages: www.abovetopsecret.com...' I am sorry to have to resort to having you verify this particular situation for me, but it has some very unique and familiar qualities to it that permit me to investigate this for what I see it as, "A true UFO footage and not a hoax."
With respect and with great thanks,
Your newly found Fan,
Bill A.K.A. Allred5923
Originally posted by malignant_tumor
Obviously, there is nothing more convincing to another than a story told to another then another.
3rd party stories must be genuine.
Let's deny reality and accept fish stories.
I once knew this guy who had a friend that his cousin told him.....
I believed him!!!!!
Originally posted by mopusvindictus
Yeah but... I did do research andI also lived on 35th Ave at the time of this alleged photo taking and the night time footage is from about 5 miles west for the back mtns I picked out to be the same as they appear and firefighters confirmed a fire in the location I believed it was... near Surprise
and the day shot is close to 35th ave, I can tell by th mnts
so now after your last posts and a relook, I can absolutely tell you, there was no UFO by my house that Day
I didn't realize exactly where it supposedly was in Phx until your lost post...
But now DEAD On it can't be, I'd have seen it from my yard at the time.
I personally am convinced it is real and not a brush fire or any other thing but a definite UFO with some evidence of super natural events surroundign these sightings as well.Jerry
I wouldn't say, I remember the exact day, but I have kids and don't go outside until evening in summer because of the heat nor at the time was I going anywhere There's no way i'd have missed it and I recognize what I see as the mtns silhouettes in night time shot, and it's not the same neighborhood It's surprise and that's where I was told there was a fire and it's monsoon season, there's lightning every evening, A friend had their palm tree set ablaze in the same time period, not sure if it was the same day, but I recall the issues,I'm sorry my friend, It definitely is not a Ufo, Wish I could say there was even a chance it was, but I WAS THERE, now i'm certain it's a hoax with address.