Mothership over MO? With vid!!

Originally posted by alyosha1981
Could it be that the alphabet boy's have been keeping this one under wraps?

No, not under wraps.

It's underwater!

No, not under wraps. It's underwater!

Hardly! Look at the e-mail! This one may have been "sleeping" but not ever completely dis proven and now Allred has taken a leap forward, take a second to encourage that.I'm glad and if this is "underwater" well it's still breathing

he responded... by explaining that they were trained to deal with ufo crashes but he had never had any call to but wouldn't speak for the rest of the fire dept and then repeated that It definitely wasn't a fire

Contradicting? maybe a typo I don't know maybe you could explain?

Originally posted by alyosha1981

he responded... by explaining that they were trained to deal with ufo crashes but he had never had any call to but wouldn't speak for the rest of the fire dept and then repeated that It definitely wasn't a fire

Contradicting? maybe a typo I don't know maybe you could explain?

I too had caught that, but for the sake of the thread, blew it off for what it probably was ,"A Typo." Not very concerned for that little of a problem with all the possibilities this can produce for the hungry minds of thought.

I have had sightings through out my whole life, my father was a truck driver, cross country, and we had seen a lot together as well. He has passed since then and he took my story (ies) to the grave with him, but he was a firm believer of this phenomenon, he was my "Go to" guy with issues of this nature, and I miss the conversations we had had while he was here. He always told me that being smart doesn't mean you have to read about it, it is when you have an experience like no other that creates passages to the deepest recesses of your mind and it opens new passages never explored by the in the box thinkers. He always told me to believe in what I had seen with him, and had nothing but positive outlook for the thing's I had seen without him.

As this thread unwinds with the advent of contacting Jerry, I will keep all of you posted, especially you malignant and modusvindictus, I am sure you would like to see if it can be proven a hoax, bu the cards are weighing that it's not, and I concur with the "Not being a Hoax" scenario.

reply to post by Allred5923


Okay, more digging... I called the local news and did an online search

Weather for the day... It was a Monsoon day, Mostly Cloudy High 104

This is an actual photo taken of the early evening from weather underground




When I saw that I went through my digital camera files by date, i'm a designer/artist by trade... I take allot of pics

That pic was taken in the exact area where later on I was told by the fire fighters there was indeed a fire, the same fire fighters who claim it was a fire on sight, professionals, who know what they see every day


ADDITIONALLY

I was OUTSIDE that day and I did live in the EXACT location where this supposed sighting took place




That's my work bro, I had a full 30 images from the day from early evening well into the night, I remember the day now after looking at my images completely because of the above image

Rather cool huh?

It deserves a spot on world weekly news... I had been trying to capture the elusive cloud demon from their photos for years

But seriously i'm not going to show my kids photos from later on, I might as well put my phone number up...

The pic is dated

This was that day at that location bro...

I'm sorry, I have no reason to lie

I have some pretty strange theories myself... I don't go around busting bubbles mostly

But I know me...

Not only was I out there... I was out there that night with a Camera my friend

There was NO UFO

Just a Great Stormy Monsoon Day and I had thought for a time I might catch a Tornado


Yeah...

fire fighters,
weather records
Being ON Location
Having a Camera in use... all night

Yup

I can say 100% debunked,

I was there bro, nothing but a lightning, cloudy monsoon evening


I'd be willing to let myself be called by Internos to verify my location on a u2u pledge of anonymity

Can't prove the pic, without bring down the camera which i no longer own I suppose... but I could verify my address at the time although...if I wanted an anal probe I'd be looking for a real ufo

I Was There On Location with a Camera that day...

should have thought to look through my files but...I remembered I was taking Monsoon photos when I saw the ones on weather underground


It's over man, I have no reason to lie

It's a hoax, or confusion of weather anomaly or fire...

But there was NO UFO over my home that day...

and I was chartting the skies...

and I knew I would know... because I work at home, i watch for the chem trails like a hawk, I have telescopes cameras... I cave dive...

I'm a friggin bed bug

k

seriously

Haven't had a regular job in 14 years off the Internet or not in my house... I know when UFo's are seen near me

Definitively, No UFO in the area, not something like that No way, no how, couldn't have missed, I have a whole roll of images through the night.

sorry bro












[edit on 24-11-2008 by mopusvindictus]

Originally posted by alyosha1981
Just found this looks pretty cool to me just want to know what your thoughts are.Not sure if this vid is already on here but if not here it is enjoy!
[edit on 19-11-2008 by alyosha1981]

[edit on 19-11-2008 by alyosha1981]

Would you care to edit and retract your original post since you just lied and posted a video of forrest fires?

[edit on 24-11-2008 by rocksarerocks]

reply to post by rocksarerocks


Wow what an ignorant assumption have you followed this thread at all? I simply posted what I believe to be a true event so you calling me a "liar" is most unfounded, and NO I do not care to retract any of what I posted nor my opinions contained therein Thanks but no thanks.

LOL is this the Ultimate Fighting championship or are you guys going to look up and comment on the REALITY

That I was outside on Location when this supposedly happened and I can back it up?

Pretty cool it worked out like this as I see it...

Like the old letterman skit "Brush with Greatness" lol

(I seriously hope this isn't my 15 minutes of fame... witnessing an event that didn't happen...that would suck)


Sorry to clown around... No Ufo

Dang

Everyone logs off

okay

I'll do it myself


"Nice work Mopus, appreciate the quest for the Truth, Guess we had this one wrong, there's always next time... Stared!"

Thanks Guys,


(Damn debunking is unrewarding, no wonder the Debunkers in here are always so nasty and cynical... I propose a Give a Debunker a hug day.... sheeeeesh)


Waiting for 2 hrs to pass so someone comes on and calls me a liar....


siiiiiiiighhhh

have went back and re-listened to the podcast, looked at the video that is posted on Rob's website and am sure this is for real, "No matter how good or what you think is the answer mopusvindictus.

Listen to the podcast, then watch the video of the sighting with sound.

www.jerrypippin.com...

This Rob guy was initially a big skeptic, his wife had initially seen this craft fly over the house he lives in and got his video recorder out to catch it for proof, which he exclaimed was and seems to be a very active spot around his area.
The object is described to be at least 5 mi. away and the voice on the video is awe struck to say the least.
Other drivers on the road were pulling over to watch the same thing that was recorded and Rob has been contacted by scientists and other UFologists about this footage.
HE admits that it is a "Monsoon" time of the area and the winds are at high speed, he is aware of lightning strikes and hill side fires, and with a large stretch of imagination, there is no way that the mountains, which are not even close to the height by comparison, could not of belched a plume to be visible from a distance of 3 mi.'s.
I am not familiar with the "Rock Lake" area in AZ, but you can bet your bottom dollar, I will be by the time I am done investigating this sighting.
Apparently the area of the "Indian Burial grounds" is a natural hot spot for many different sightings, and the whole area is in the shape of a horse shoe, and under the upper layers of this area are huge deposits of quartz and rock crystals, which are a great conductor of magnetic energy.
Why the thing flew over at the particular time it did, your guess is as good as mine, but there is way too much information, dialog, recorded evidence and testimony to just boost this to the weigh side of the road.

mopusvindictus,
I understand you live in that area, but all you have done is show me pic's of "Pretty Clouds" and nothing more, once again.
Your input is irrelevant and self acknowledged. There are a lot of sightings in your area, and I know that to be true from watching television and listening to radio shows, not to mention my own experiences, Now, "Put down the Blow Horn and show me the 'TANGIBLE' and 'UDENIABLE' evidence you have." "Whats that? Nothing. I see." If you are such a great photographer and have the audacity to bash others with your "Lacking" talents of so called evidences, of course, "Evidences than what you believe" move on, and the people that are interested will take it from here.
I am investigating this sighting, and I have heard your your so called explanation, but crap floats and you are apparently in that proverbial boat. I will find out for myself, without the acknowledgements of an unseasoned and rather distasteful retaliating individual for other people's thoughts and curiosities.
Your pic's and your efforts are truly wasted here, now, if you can give me the 'Verifiable and undeniable' explanation, "I'm all ears. But for now, keep your pic's and your throaty remarks to yourself, 'Blow hard'.

reply to post by mopusvindictus


I'll give you a thumbs up for the pics becase they are good ones.....but I still dont feel that they validate your claim as to this object being a fire there clouds..hrmm but pretty nontheless thanks for sharing.As I'm balencing work and this thread of course I'm going to log off at times but continue to check periododicly(spelling bad trying to hurry sorry) Good work Allred!!! keep it up

Is it just me, or does Allred5923 and alyosha1981 seem to be the same person?

Both names starting with AL and end with 4 numbers both holding the same views on this. As though it can be nothing other than extraterrestrial? Also they post right after one another in most cases.

Originally posted by malignant_tumor
Is it just me, or does Allred5923 and alyosha1981 seem to be the same person?

ROTFLOL!!!
Man, are you on a trip...By the way aloysha says "Hi!" JK.
There is a conspiracy you can post with evidences that are very undeniably unprovable for you malignant!!

Both names starting with AL and end with 4 numbers both holding the same views on this. As though it can be nothing other than extraterrestrial? Also they post right after one another in most cases.

Once again, "You have it all figured out." how refreshing!!
I hope and can't wait for aloysha to read your post, "You kill me man, Down right peeing in my britches!!" LOl,LOL,LOL

Get real malignant, no, wait a minute, this is probably the first time you been "Possibly" right of a true conspiracy..."Give it up!"

The reasons behind the "Friendly Posts" between aloysha and I, is because we are respecting each others points of views and not bashing one another. I was in this thread for the long hall, not to bump heads with you and mopus.

But, I have to tell you, "I will have to chuckle a bit every time I log onto this thread!!"

Thanks for the laugh, I truly needed it!!

Whatever you wish to believe.

I was outside with a camera I have an entire set of images through the night not pretty pictures...

Your both being Irrational

I was THERE on the spot, I didn't realize it at first but as information was given out, I went through my camera files, they are all dated

I was OUTSIDE Exactly where this happened

Your telling me it flew right over my head and I missed "The Mothership" go by?

While taking Photos?

You have to be kidding me right?

How can you possibly deny this?

I was THERE, there was NOTHING In the sky in the location

I can verify I was there, I have witnesses, my ex wifes family was over, I have mail, rental records...

You say yourself, 5 miles distant...so it would have to have been huge, I have friends all over the valley, No one saw anything...

There's no evidence... it ever moves... not one single shot of motion, the lights don't even change

and LOL I was OUTSIDE TAKING PICTURES THAT NIGHT

How does one Miss the Invasion under those circumstances?????

Your in North Dakota

I was under the location with a camera...

Your sure it's real and i'm wrong because you saw a UFO a decade earlier or something?

I was...there I lived on the "supposed" Block for crying out loud...



This week goes in my record books for obtuse debates

Look... I want to believe to

I really do... I'm not a debunker...

I feel for you, you know you had an experience, you want redemption....

I "get it" I feel for you

But.... There was nothing in the sky that night bro, It's Fact, I live there.. I had the Camera out, I was outside... the Mothership you can see for 5 miles doesn't fly over your house while your taking pictures and you don't notice it...

There was nothing bro

Originally posted by mopusvindictus




Pic 2, Play a bit with contrast and brightness, the mountain range can clearly be seen against the skyline, these lights are indeed on the mountains, you can even make out the lines where the various mountains obscure each others view and see exactly where the fire is nestled

Eh, not quite. Those are just compression artifacts.

reply to post by Jay L.


No they aren't

There are clearly definable compression artifacts on the pic yes...

and they have nothing to do with a complete differential from top to bottom of light content.

Maybe aside from being out side during this "supposed encounter taking photographs... Now I no longer have 20 years photography experience as well

I Spend time in CAVES I know when I am looking at Rocks and when you encounter a light source behind them.

I live here

I was under the location spot to the T and CAN and WILL Back it up for a fair 3rd party

There was Nothing Over my home or within 5 miles of it that night... I was out taking photos...

This is ridiculous...

Who wants to perpetuate this Bs and Why? is the only question I am now asking

Originally posted by Jay L.
Eh, not quite. Those are just compression artifacts.

Are those professional opinoins, or just your thoughts.

Do you live anywhere near fire regions that happen extremely often?

reply to post by malignant_tumor

Is it just me, or does Allred5923 and alyosha1981 seem to be the same person? Both names starting with AL and end with 4 numbers both holding the same views on this. As though it can be nothing other than extraterrestrial? Also they post right after one another in most cases.

Wow this has, to say the least been a great day for me, (1) Received some great news from a like minded, respectable truth seeker who has taken a personal interest and come up with some very good information to support this topic,(2) been outright called a "liar"(3)shown some pictures "found" to be used as a counter claim to an already undeniable (imo) respectfully, video of an unidentified flying object That has been presented to the ufo community.(4) Accused of being 2 different ATS members posting on the same thread with two distinct writing styles I might add with the notion that because of minor similarities in member name (a poor attempt to distract from the original topic) as the limited amount of counter claims boil down to speculation on photo angles and location difference witch in and of itself is inconclusive since the exact location is not fully known ie lightpost theory.....come on I mean if you live(d) in the area cool but that dosen't mean that any number of variables were or were not present in why you were not one of the ones to see this object.I am greatfull because the reason I started this thread was to hear feedback on this and I most certainly got what I asked for,Of course I pay close attention to Allred's posts because his results in obtaining this new information have been imo crucial breakthroughs to the eventual and coming "smoking gun" on this event.And as he receives more updates they will most certainly be posted.And Mopus when you can get Rob to come out and and agree with your claims....then you'll have something happy hunting cheezburgers

Originally posted by alyosha1981
,Of course I pay close attention to Allred's posts because his results

And you use the term "his" results.

How do you know Allred is a "him"?