Mothership over MO? With vid!!

Holy cow!

Alien mothership disguised itself as a forest fire! Amazing technology.

Thank god one individual got this UFO footage of the year.

After reading all seven pages, I hold on to my belief that this doesn't show some mothership or huge UFO.

There are just too many questions, the biggest three imho are:

1.The daytime shot looks like another position, if the camera man had really seen a large craft (like he suggests this was) he could have gone there the next morning, and take a pic of the same exact angle, showing the whole lamp post, the trees, the wall behind the sidewalk and the street. But instead, he just photographed some tree tops and the top of the lamp. What has he got to hide?

2. If he indeed saw what he wants us to see - remember the crappy quality of the video, he must have seen it completeley clear - it would have been such a mind blowing event, that more people would have reported it. I think I would freak out seeing this, instead of standing there calmly. He could have called some residents to wittness the event. If I would wittness a massive glowing object that makes no appearance to move or get away, I would get a lot of witnesses (stopping cars, making calls etc.), and present you all the details of the story with some water-proof day-time shots, and would work hard to get this out to the media, after validating it by the science community, it would be the smoking gun after all...

3. His other "sightings" are kind of suspicious, too. This one indicates that he lives in a hilly area (same situation I suppose, different light): External Image. After visiting his website, my gut feeling says me he's like some guy with much interest in the subject (see website) who sooo much wants to film UFOs to call attention to himself. If it doesn't happen, he "lends the aliens a hand" to get them on video (like Billie Meier, i.e.).


Sure, there is no way to either prove or debunk his claims with the available evidence. But if this were a court case and he the witness, he would be dismissed as untrustworthy.

reply to post by alyosha1981

UFO Mother Ship - here now! Hard Proof Even Skeptics are speechless
www.youtube.com...

teslaandlyne (6 seconds ago)
Tesla 'bulbs', solid hemispheres of aluminum, focus incoming charges for
motion in that direction. Not moving the charged craft still has a charge
collection around the bulb in Tesla's Radiant Energy Patent, look it up. Light
come from electrons, look up Edison. That Tesla craft is at plasma voltages
and look that up with the cartels holding on to Tesla's atomic gas physics.

plasma around the hull that creates a gravity pocket, shielding the craft from the wind, and resonant gravitic systems to levitate. easy

reply to post by Allred5923


First off thank you for sharing your experience with us.I have not personally seen anything like this object in question nor anything similler
unfortunatly(still waiting) I would venture to guess that in the relm of extraterestrial craft if one is made then it's possible for many others like it to exist,could this be the same craft that you witnessed all those years ago who knows but the thought of that possability does to me seem completly realistic,How exciting and again thank you for sharing.

reply to post by mastermind77


Sure, if you and I say so.

I was thinking there is nothing more unknown than plasma
than the UFOs and aliens.

Plasma gets all the ghost people going on their theories.

Fly Stick Van De Graff Levitation Wand from ThinkGeek
www.youtube.com...

Check it out.
Not even plasma levels yet.

reply to post by SiONiX

2. If he indeed saw what he wants us to see - remember the crappy quality of the video, he must have seen it completeley clear - it would have been such a mind blowing event, that more people would have reported it. I think I would freak out seeing this, instead of standing there calmly. He could have called some residents to wittness the event. If I would wittness a massive glowing object that makes no appearance to move or get away, I would get a lot of witnesses (stopping cars, making calls etc.), and present you all the details of the story with some water-proof day-time shots, and would work hard to get this out to the media, after validating it by the science community, it would be the smoking gun after all...

Honestly I think it woul be easy to say what one would've done in this given situation as hindsight is always 20/20. We may never know why the owner didn't choose to alert any or all passerby and attempt to involve the mainstream media in a "eureka this is it, smoking gun" kind of way.Not to stray off topic but many a creditable "ufo" witnesses have been badgered into witholding information via threats from unknown sources.This gentelman is chosing to withhold all of the origional footage for reasons unknown,I glad that he released this.I would imagine that at least a certain amount of apprehension was present when deciding how to proceed,I mean there are your run of the mill "lights" in the sky and then there's this so completly different from any thing ever put out there.How does one deal with the "what to do now" in this case knowing that it may have been a very profound experience for him.IMO the release of this footage to mainstream media and the thought of the complete can of worms that would have insued upon his personal life may have been to him inconcievable.

My gut on this says one of the best UFO footage around for a long time and as time goes on we will see more and more of these huge motherships, they are starting to show themselves now, but I have no idea why? why chooses 2008/2009 whats the significance anyone?

Originally posted by alyosha1981

We may never know why the owner didn't choose to alert any or all passerby and attempt to involve the mainstream media in a "eureka this is it, smoking gun" kind of way.

Because it's a fire.

This gentelman is chosing to withhold all of the origional footage for reasons unknown

Because he knows it's a fire.

I would imagine that at least a certain amount of apprehension was present when deciding how to proceed,I mean there are your run of the mill "lights" in the sky and then there's this so completly different from any thing ever put out there.How does one deal with the "what to do now"

Yes, the "what to do now" question.

I've got it! I'll put it on youtube!

Of course we all know that youtube is not mainstream yet.


[edit on 20-11-2008 by malignant_tumor]

reply to post by franspeakfree


Not sure, my guess is the advanced mental capacity for accepting complex realities moving forward as time does.

reply to post by malignant_tumor

Yes, the "what to do now" question.

Are you sure that the owner posted this to Youtube because I thought that this was a recording of some other discussion that someone else decided to put on youtube.

[edit on 20-11-2008 by alyosha1981]

It would have been very interesting to have seen the mother ship move away. (They said it stayed stationary in the air for some time.) So why no footage of the mother ship as it began to fly back home?

If I saw a mother ship floating in the sky I would try to keep shooting until after it had moved away and I couldn't see it any more. Or conserve my batteries, media card until the most important moment, i.e., when it begins to move!

Now If I saw footage of that thing moving I would be a lot more convinced.

For now, it is a fire with smoke on a hill top.

UFOs are real and aliens are real. It would just be more interesting to hear people discuss what their interaction with human is rather then keep trying to tell people UFOs are real and having them not believe you.
btw, that was a good video.

Examine 2:21-2:23 more closely, to me it reveals itself as a model with lights beneath it because of the distortion with the pixels surrounding the model being slightly greater than that of the lightpost signifying it's proximity to be closer.


[edit on 20-11-2008 by socrates271]

reply to post by internos


Source video is always awesome.

Although I question the daylight shot for every reason mentioned so far... and one more. I'll admit I did scan the last few pages.

Did anyone else notice palm trees supposedly living in St. Paul, MO?

I don't think the video offered of Kritkausky's is the same as the OP.

Originally posted by franspeakfree
My gut on this says one of the best UFO footage around for a long time and as time goes on we will see more and more of these huge motherships, they are starting to show themselves now, but I have no idea why? why chooses 2008/2009 whats the significance anyone?

this is the truth about it and ill go to the god damn grave saying this!

the human race as we know it, are evolving....

and slowly but surely we are being allowed to see things that previously we would never have been allowed to see

these entities/vessels have ALWAYS BEEN THERE,
yet in the third dimensional reality that humanity as we know it exists in, we werent allowed to see other dimensions such as spirits, other worlds, other entities....

slowly but surely the `cloak` that kept it hidden from us it being lifted, step by step... like a child taking his first steps....
to ready us for the eventual shift for humanity.

and no im not one for the whole `new age` and `love and light` and `blsoom goodchild` but i know and so do you in your heart of heart that this is what is happening!!!

id like somebody to comment on what ive said please

reply to post by plejaren-spirit


Agreed, The amount of new information as well as sightings is amounting quickly as imo i atribute this to a coming pardigm shift.We may someday know what the mysteries of the universe hold, I won't hold my breath for that one though

reply to post by psychedeliack


Might well be one of the Victor series of motherships from Venus. Have a look at www.nextagemission.com and will see there the Victor 1 Mothership cloaked over Lake Meade - Nevada.

We are going to see many more ships like this from now on!! Also those that are now more Alien to our atmosphere, will find it difficult adjusting and sustaining the higher vibration as the electromagnetic fields adjust from solar flares eminating from our solar sun!

reply to post by malignant_tumor


Well, I don't know what to tell you about your conclusions, but, there yours and you seem to own them.
I do have one significant question to ask you though.
"If you think there is nothing to "Possible" recorded sightings of UFOs being filmed on a regular basis, why do you continue to reiterate your unchanging opinion on the matter?"
Just curious, this is some very strong footage that was presented.

And if there is really know acknowledgement from people pf higher authorities, "Why would this be happening?" (See below)

Nasa joins UFO sighting craze
Nasa scientists have contributed to a spate of UFO sighting videos sweeping the internet.

The US space agency were filming from a shuttle outside the earth's orbit in April this year when the cameras picked up four objects that have never been identified.

A group of teenagers in India stopped by the side of the road and captured a group of glowing objects moving in patterns in the skyThe footage came after two similarly eerie sightings a few days apart on different sides of the world.

In January this year an amateur cameraman was one of a crowd who gathered to look at a mysterious light in the sky above Mexico.

He captured images of a trail dragging behind a very slow-moving object in the sky, before another light appeared on the horizon.

In the same week, a group of teenagers in India stopped by the side of the road and captured a group of glowing objects moving in patterns in the sky.

itn.co.uk...

Here's the updated website from MUFON's event's page, it is fascinating how much a person can be in denial with sightings happening all around the globe.

Mutual UFO Network - UFO News

www.rss2html.com...//rss.groups.yahoo.com/group/MUFON/rss

I would like to know how you maintain your constitutions of this being written off as a hoax so quickly, and adamently as well. I have emailed Rob, the original Filmer of this footage, I have not heard nothing from him yet, but as soon as I do, you guy's will be the first too know of his reply.
I also asked him to join us here at the ATS forums to defend his footage and his experience's, with some validation, maybe we will all accept thing's as a higher and more complicated plain of existence that kind of turns our "Self Proclaimed" reality may not be as cut and dry as one would think.

Originally posted by grifta
is this not a good one for Nablator to try to use his magic stacking method on? I am not pc savvy so i wont even attempt it, but it might be worth him having a go (or someone using his method anyway)

"Stacking" thread

I tried. In the video posted by Internos I don't see anything in the dark area around the UFO. Sorry. The technique doesn't work when the video is not the original shot with a good camera.