Please tell me this bible verse does not mean what I think it does!

reply to post by Good Wolf

Just go back to the hebrew texts. That should clarify just what was intended.

Yes, I agree that the translators got things messed up here and there, to say the least.

I don't subscribe to any one religion. I subscribe to the Bible and the fact that Romans 10:9 is the only truth. Jesus is the only begotten son of God and was God incarnate. The Christian Evangelical movement is suspect, Baptist Associations. The Pope is a 33rd degree Mason and part of the drive for the New World Order.

It goes all the way back to the story of Nimrod and Babylon. After the Flood of Noah's days, Nimrod was "a mighty hunter before the Lord," and he established the city of Babylon and also the city of Nineveh, which later became the capital of Assyria. He was against God. He introduced astrology, witchcraft, idolatry, and many other evil inventions. It can be shown that all of the religions of the ancient empires were built on the same corruptions originated by Nimrod. Nimrod was a Nephilim, 10-12 cubits tall.

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hahahah thats hilarious

i dont subscribe to any religeon i just beleive 1 verse in the bible

and then when it mentions nephilim i beleive that too

and noah's story and the creatioon of babylon and .....

so infact you believe most of the old testament

and if you dont beleive it why are you defending the new testament as actual and factual and made by really real friends of jesus despite all evidence to the contruary

i think your not bieng honest possibly with yourself deffinatley with us

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wait its a blessing to kill them for god and for god to kill them so they can become hindu or buddist and be reincarnated into a society with higher standards?

Would it be better for them to be reborn into a society that denigrated even further? Though, it is hard to think of what would be worse than sacrificing children so that rain would come, or whatever.

unless christianity is teaching reincarnation for the masses again

LOL, that's doubtful! Would really mess up a ton of church-ianity's theology! And, it would also make the bible make more sense, but can't have that now can we?

Originally posted by L.I.B.
, it is hard to think of what would be worse than sacrificing children so that rain would come, or

or becasue the great beard in the sky got bored with dead burnt animals bieng 'a sweet savour unto the Lord'

god loves bbq ^_^

Originally posted by noobfun

Originally posted by L.I.B.
, it is hard to think of what would be worse than sacrificing children so that rain would come, or

or becasue the great beard in the sky got bored with dead burnt animals bieng 'a sweet savour unto the Lord'

god loves bbq ^_^

Yeah, I read recently that space smells like cooked steak.

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ever read cain and able?

cain makes god a nice green salad from his farming skills and god isnt impressed

able kills a sheep or 2 and slings em on the bbq and god loves it

needless to say cain got annoyed and beat his brother to death with a jar of bbq sauce

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LOL! Good joke.

That was a joke, wasn't it???

(If not, it is my understanding that Cain may have wanted to do his brother in with that bottle of BBQ sauce even before the story of the sacrifices. The story wasn't about what was sacrificed.)

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actually no cain killed able becasue god didnt appreciate his offering but liked able's


4:2 And she again bare his brother Abel. And Abel was a keeper of sheep, but Cain was a tiller of the ground.
4:3 And in process of time it came to pass, that Cain brought of the fruit of the ground an offering unto the LORD. (nice green salad)
4:4 And Abel, he also brought of the firstlings of his flock and of the fat thereof. And the LORD had respect unto Abel and to his offering: (loved bbq lamb)
4:5 But unto Cain and to his offering he had not respect. And Cain was very wroth, and his countenance fell. (ever a true man god said no salad for me thanks)
4:6 And the LORD said unto Cain, Why art thou wroth? and why is thy countenance fallen?
4:7 If thou doest well, shalt thou not be accepted? and if thou doest not well, sin lieth at the door. And unto thee shall be his desire, and thou shalt rule over him.
4:8 And Cain talked with Abel his brother: and it came to pass, when they were in the field, that Cain rose up against Abel his brother, and slew him. (in cains jealousy he beat his brother to death with a jar of bbq sauce and a kebab squewer or 3)




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Originally posted by noobfun
reply to post by L.I.B.

 

actually no cain killed able becasue god didnt appreciate his offering but liked able's

Correct, you are.

Do you suppose God's lack of appreciation was due to what was offered, or the quality of the sacrifice that was offered?

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well if you read deuteronimy god loves things killed and burnt in his honour but remeber to sprinkle the blood around he really likes that its 'a sweet savour unto the Lord' as he says over and over and over and he likes it when you add extra salt

and no criples allowed god doesnt like the disabled, disabled animals cant be sacrificed to him its 'an abomination unto the lord', and disable people including children shouldnt be let near his alters either. cripple kids messing with his dead animals are 'an abomination unto the lord' as well

so i hope moses put a big 'no blind folk allowed' sign at the door

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LOL... I do so appreciate your sense of humor!

About the offering though, the grain offerings were just as acceptable in Judaism as the animal offerings. So, it couldn't of been what was offered as much as the quality, which would imply that Cain was holding back the best he had.

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Exd 29:38 Now this [is that] which thou shalt offer upon the altar; two lambs of the first year day by day continually.
Exd 29:39 The one lamb thou shalt offer in the morning; and the other lamb thou shalt offer at even:

i dont remeber him demanding a loaf of bread everyday, i do recall somthing about a decending list of animals he will accept and at the end if your couldnt afford doves rams goats and oxen then you got to give him a bit of flour

got a reference for the other offerings save me wondering throuhg leviticus and exodus looking of rthem (for some reason i always think its deut >_< that has all gods tasty bbq recipes)

Lev 2:14 And if thou offer a meat offering of thy firstfruits unto the LORD, thou shalt offer for the meat offering of thy firstfruits green ears of corn dried by the fire, [even] corn beaten out of full ears.


Lev 2:15 And thou shalt put oil upon it, and lay frankincense thereon: it [is] a meat offering.


Lev 2:16 And the priest shall burn the memorial of it, [part] of the beaten corn thereof, and [part] of the oil thereof, with all the frankincense thereof: [it is] an offering made by fire unto the LORD.


got it, ^_^

yes you can give corn instead of meat but it can be classed as a meat offering if you coverit in one of the most expensive spices ever known

it would be cheaper to just give him another couple of sheep as they have blood to sprinkle all around the alter and you can wave bits of thier burnt anatomy just as god commanded ... no vegetarians allowed by order of god



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"Do not be deceived, God is not mocked; for whatever a man sows, that he will also reap." Galatians 6:7

"And many will follow their destructive ways, because of whom the way of truth will be blasphemed. By covetousness they will exploit you with deceptive words; for a long time their judgment has not been idle, and their destruction does not slumber." 1 Peter 2:2-3

"Fools mock at sin, but among the upright there is favor." Proverbs 14:9





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Dear loving god dude, that was a reriously hilarious response, if ATS had chart for funny responses that would have to be up there

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Exodus

33:23 And I will take away mine hand, and thou shalt see my back parts: but my face shall not be seen.

if gods go enough of a sense of humor to moon Moses im sure he is loving my posts too

and if not ill keep an eye out for his killer hornets

Ex 23:28 And I will send hornets before thee, which shall drive out the Hivite, the Canaanite, and the Hittite, from before thee.


its amazing for one who isnt of any religeon and only beleives 1 verse of the whole bible your doing a whole lot of bible quoting and worshipping my friend

Originally posted by moocowman

Dear loving god dude,

sounds like the start of a letter ^_^


you know me Mooo why be on topic when you can be ontopic and sarcastic





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Originally posted by noobfun
reply to post by Good Wolf

 

actually the proper version is though shalt not murder

hebrew has 2 very distinct words and meaning for kill and murder


it got changed to kill and is now as you say in more jazzy versions bieng changed back

Oh well then, I guess you learn something new everyday. This surprises me, I've seen alot of bible alteration and censorship that seems to water-down the message which would be the case if it went from:
kill -> murder but this must then be and exception to the rule

Originally posted by Bean328
reply to post by tgambill

 

its all good. when we, the people that are doing what were supposed to are raptured(if in our lifetime) or die and go to heaven, those on earth who wouldnt listen will be looking pretty dumb sitting in Hell or dealing with the tribulations to come.


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Your right we are going to look pretty dumb when everyone you love is sitting with us here in hell petting our little doggies while you are happy as hell alone in heaven.