Please tell me this bible verse does not mean what I think it does!

An eternity is a long time to spend in Hell while those are placing wagers on who is right when the evidence says different.



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Originally posted by noobfun
reply to post by L.I.B.

 

Exd 29:38 Now this [is that] which thou shalt offer upon the altar; two lambs of the first year day by day continually.
Exd 29:39 The one lamb thou shalt offer in the morning; and the other lamb thou shalt offer at even:

i dont remeber him demanding a loaf of bread everyday, i do recall somthing about a decending list of animals he will accept and at the end if your couldnt afford doves rams goats and oxen then you got to give him a bit of flour

got a reference for the other offerings save me wondering throuhg leviticus and exodus looking of rthem (for some reason i always think its deut >_< that has all gods tasty bbq recipes)

Lev 2:14 And if thou offer a meat offering of thy firstfruits unto the LORD, thou shalt offer for the meat offering of thy firstfruits green ears of corn dried by the fire, [even] corn beaten out of full ears. Lev 2:15 And thou shalt put oil upon it, and lay frankincense thereon: it [is] a meat offering. Lev 2:16 And the priest shall burn the memorial of it, [part] of the beaten corn thereof, and [part] of the oil thereof, with all the frankincense thereof: [it is] an offering made by fire unto the LORD. got it, ^_^ yes you can give corn instead of meat but it can be classed as a meat offering if you coverit in one of the most expensive spices ever known it would be cheaper to just give him another couple of sheep as they have blood to sprinkle all around the alter and you can wave bits of thier burnt anatomy just as god commanded ... no vegetarians allowed by order of god

Yeah, there are a bunch of scripture concerning the sacrificial offerings. I saw one that even said that the grain offering was the "most holy offering".

As I was reading the various scripture I found some that were seemingly contradictory (imagine that!) to others. So, I then googled for some Judaic information regarding this topic and found this site that made sense of the seeming contradictions I observed.

www.answers.com...

Apparently not all of the grain offerings had to be covered in frankincense. (It was this point that made me go looking for the Judaic stance.)

I guess that this would be as good a time as any to mention that the written torah (the old testament bible) is a curse without the oral torah/teachings.

Anyway, hopefully you'll find that site of some interest.

Only believes one verse???? Where did you get that observation? The entire Bible is the only Book on the shelves today that is full of absolute truth and the only one that people will seek when the rubber meets the road when the Anti-christ appears, and the whole world is shaken. ALL verses in the Bible are true and back up each other. There are many more verses that I've pointed out on this forum that tells one how to get saved. Religion presents manmade dogma and not biblical. Even Christianity has different sects, branches based on false interpretations of the Bible.

You misjudged the situation terribly.


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How is it that you say that you don't belong to any religion. You are christian through and through.

I don't think I've ever laughed that hard while reading bible verses.
BBQ sounds really good now.

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Exactly, when you break the bible down it shows clear contradicting proof that it was put in place to please any side at any time. It shows clear proof that it was designed for the maximum intake of wealth. land, etc.
Then when you take into account its origin your slapped in the face with lies, there is nothing to debate.

[edit on 12-11-2008 by seek4 truth]

No contradictions, no mistatement of fact, and it is up to date. If it were part of this conspiracy, then why is everyone that is on the side of the NWO trying to change it.......or even outlaw it..

Nope, its the one true word of God and there is no other.



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Originally posted by tgambill
No contradictions, no mistatement of fact, and it is up to date. If it were part of this conspiracy, then why is everyone that is on the side of the NWO trying to change it.......or even outlaw it..

Nope, its the one true word of God and there is no other.

That's what you think? Dude remember what website you are on, being daft on purpose doesn't cut it here.




"Deny Ignorance" - please take that to heart if you plan on staying on here.

[edit on 11/12/2008 by Good Wolf]

Its not a problem. The type of website doesnt' change truth. The only thing that changes truth are spins.............Try again.



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Well then it's not so simple. You are clinging on to a concept that you are convinced is true, that the bible is correct through and through, is perfect, inerrant and is the word of God.

The problem is that the scholarly consensus is that the bible is not those things, as I have demonstrated in regard to the authorship of the gospels.

The problem is the fact that you assert that the consensus is wrong and that you are right means that you are biased- even if the scholars behind the consensus are bias as well. There is no getting around the fact that you are biased, but what's more, you haven't provided any evidence that your biased opinion is right.

So until you can look at all the facts, weigh the evidence and draw unbiased conclusions, then you cannot know the truth.



You are not denying ignorance.

[edit on 11/12/2008 by Good Wolf]

Its not me being right, alone. There are millions that agree. You seem to forget that fact. The scholarly has an agenda that is designed by the CFR, Illuminati, Bilderbergers and the High Level Masons to include the VATICAN..........the Vatican?? yes the vatican. its a stacked deck of liars. The Scholarly are not wrong for making a mistake, they are wrong in doing the best they can to hide the truth. However, I can promise you this, you cannot hide from God. They will be found.




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Yea well here's the thing, tgambill. You can say whatever you like about whatever you like, but you cannot call something truth unless you have an unbiased exhaustive backing of evidence for it, if you cant do it then you are "full of it".

Its not me being right, alone. There are millions that agree. You seem to forget that fact.

lol. Yea, millions vs 6+ billion. It doesn't matter how many people agree with you, that isn't evidence. It's a logical fallacy.


You can't prove or disprove a claim for truth without evidence. That's how things work on this site. You need to play by the rules, that's your responsibility as a member of ATS.


If you can't do that then this site is not for you.




[edit on 11/12/2008 by Good Wolf]

Unfortunately most people regardless of " religion " do not read their own Holy books from cover to cover . The God described in the Judaeo - Christian / Islamic Books is Evil. Selective teachings from selective verses can give the uninformed a perspective that is at odds with the facts. Taken as a whole each Book of the Bible or Torrah or Talmud or Koran is EVil.There are more acts of Evil than Good therefore God as described in these books is Evil.There are many examples of Hypocrisiy ...

Thou shalt not kill Exodus 20:13

Kill Children (Numbers 31:17-18) (Exodus 12:29-30) (Hosea 9:11-16)
Kill Killers (Leviticus 24:17)
Commit Genocide (I Samuel 6:19)(Hosea 13:16)(Revelation in total)
Kill People Who Don't Listen to Priests (Deuteronomy 17:12)
Kill Witches (Exodus 22:17)
Kill Homosexuals (Leviticus 20:13) (Romans 1:24-32)
Kill Fortunetellers (Leviticus 20:27)
Kill those who fight their parents (Exodus 21:15)
Kill those who Curse Parents (Proverbs 20:20 NAB) (Leviticus 20:9)
Kill those who have affairs a.k.a. Adultery (Leviticus 20:10)
Kill those who have sex unmarried (Leviticus 21:9)
Kill those of Other Religions(Exodus 22:19)
Kill Nonbelievers (2 Chronicles 15:12-13)
Kill False Prophets (Zechariah 13:3)
Kill the Entire Town if One Person Worships Another God (Deuteronomy 13:13-19)
Kill Your Neighbors (Exodus 32:26-29)
Kill Women who are not Virgins on their wedding night (Deuteronomy 22:20-21)
Kill People for Working on the Sabbath (Exodus 31:12-15)
Kill Sons of Sinners (Isaiah 14:21)
Mass Murder (1 Samuel 15:2-3)(Judges 20:48)
You must Kill (Jeremiah 48:10)

And more hypocrisy:

Rape Children (Isaiah 13:15-18)
Rape People (Judges 21:10-24)(Numbers 31:7-18)(Deuteronomy 20:10-14)
Polygamy, Rape, Baby Killing (2 Samuel 12:11-14)
Rape Women (Deuteronomy 21:10-14 )(Judges 5:30)(Zechariah 14:1-2)
Slavery of Hebrews non Hebrew is OK (Exodus 21:2-6)(Leviticus 25:44-46)
Slavery is OK (Exodus 21:7-11) with rape (Ephesians 6:5)(1 Timothy 6:1-2)
Stealing is OK (Luke 19:29-34)
Make Graven images (Exodus 25:18)(I Kings 7:15,16,23,25)
God is Evil (Isaiah 45:7 )(Jeremiah 18:11)(Ezekiel 20:25,26)
God loves War (Isaiah 2:4)


I wont go on as there are over 5000 of them

By the way I am not pro NWO . I am not an Aetheist or a Humanist
I am anti Eugenics , anti evil etc etc

[edit on 12-11-2008 by DimensionIntrusion]

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Before i say this, it doesn't make your post any more accurate or valid, k.

Thou shalt not kill

We already established that it actually means 'murder' not kill in the most accurate translations.

But as I said, good point.

I believe that the bible should be looked upon as a human evolvement through time.
We cant change or do anything about what happened in the past. But we should try to understand it. But not mix the future with the past. We dont live in that time any more. The Bible has giving our time a different message and a new task.


[edit on 27.06.08 by spy66]

Originally posted by tgambill
No contradictions, no mistatement of fact, and it is up to date. If it were part of this conspiracy, then why is everyone that is on the side of the NWO trying to change it.......or even outlaw it..

Nope, its the one true word of God and there is no other.



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That is a very simple question, I dont think you and most people understand what the Nwo IS. New order of the ages, Jesus was the age of Pisces. Read the book "old world secrets the omega project codes" that will catch you up. Most of these people on here do not have a clue.

Originally posted by tgambill
Only believes one verse???? Where did you get that observation? The entire Bible is the only Book on the shelves today that is full of absolute truth and the only one that people will seek when the rubber meets the road when the Anti-christ appears, and the whole world is shaken. ALL verses in the Bible are true and back up each other. There are many more verses that I've pointed out on this forum that tells one how to get saved. Religion presents manmade dogma and not biblical. Even Christianity has different sects, branches based on false interpretations of the Bible.

You misjudged the situation terribly.

yes where could i have gotten such an utterly rediculous idea like that im sorry your absoultley right i must be mistakenb for thinking you said

Originally posted by tgambill
I don't subscribe to any one religion. I subscribe to the Bible and the fact that Romans 10:9 is the only truth.

only a few replies back

wait only romans 10:9 is truth but the rest are lies?

no wait you say its all truth ......

your not christian but only understand the bible(loosley) and continue to cry its merits and virtue while ignoring any other holy scripture .....

me thinks your a lil confused there frined

tell me what does jesus say about lying? you will find it bieng called 'bearing false witness'

ehh ehh? jesus wont be happy if you keep doing that .. no holy bbq for you

[edit on 13/11/08 by noobfun]

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wow that was awesome!

Originally posted by tgambill
Its not me being right, alone. There are millions that agree. You seem to forget that fact. *snip* However, I can promise you this, you cannot hide from God. They will be found.

yay lets play spot the logical falasy

Its not me being right, alone. There are millions that agree. You seem to forget that fact.

i think your forgetting there are more muslims then christains by your own logic your backing the wrong side, dear allah please forgive me for following the silly other god, please can i have a pony a shiney new bike and a plastic rocket for christmas .....

I can promise you this, you cannot hide from God

.

Genesis 3:8 adam and eve did, god had to play hide and seek to find them

Genesis 4:14 Cain can do it too

Genesis 18:9 Sarah hid in a tent 10 foot away and god didnt notice

Genesis 32:27 god forgets peoples names ...must be his age

Hosea 8:4 someone started making kings and princess's withourt god noticing

im pretty good at hide and seek i think im in with a chances if these clowns can do it so can i

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but im sure if the great beardy sky daddy says raping babies is ok it must be musnt it?

it must be ok becasue he says his zombie son is gonna come down to earth and collect my ghost and were all goona boogy down for eternity

excuse while while i go rape babies in gods name .... and go stone a few children like jesus commanded


great list ^_^