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posted on Nov, 7 2008 @ 09:49 PM
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reply to post by SkepticalSteve
 
Until you earn your bonafides and are qualified at the very minimum Masters level you could do much more damage than good giving advice without getting all the facts. Keep studying, stay with it, but I gotta say your response calling me sick for reminding you of your position is just another indication that you should let off the online express diagnosis.



[edit on 11/8/2008 by seentoomuch]



posted on Nov, 7 2008 @ 09:49 PM
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Well I'm not going anywhere...maybe I'll get to be your first subject!reply to post by SkepticalSteve
 



posted on Nov, 7 2008 @ 09:52 PM
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Also, maybe they left because they felt ridiculed in a place where they thought they would be understood? Just a thought.reply to post by SkepticalSteve
 



posted on Nov, 7 2008 @ 09:59 PM
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If asking them to back up there story is ridicule then perhaps. However, I look forward to the video



posted on Nov, 7 2008 @ 10:00 PM
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Hi Jheysoda

The video camera sounds like a helpful idea. Oh, maybe check with some of the camera people on the forum, they'll know which ones have the settings for night filming. Let us know how it goes, take care, you're in my prayers,

STM



posted on Nov, 7 2008 @ 10:03 PM
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Personally I would suggest a web cam. They are relatively cheap. Of course you'd have to have a computer in your room. This is the set up I have. I sleep with the monitor on so there is enough light within the room. This is my way of observing some unusual things that happen to me at night.



posted on Nov, 7 2008 @ 10:03 PM
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Originally posted by SkepticalSteve
reply to post by Jheysoda
 
However, I look forward to the video

I just bet you do. I think she should keep these videos to herself, maybe a written descripton would be best. If something unusual does show up on the vid perhaps only her doctor or pastor should see it. Just my opinion,

STM



[edit on 11/7/2008 by seentoomuch]



posted on Nov, 7 2008 @ 10:04 PM
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Why should he/she keep them to themselves. I thought the purpose of this site was to discover the truth and have the audacity to bring it to the surface.



posted on Nov, 7 2008 @ 10:06 PM
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Think real hard, if what she says is happening shows up on the vid could it even be shown on ATS, and would she want it to?



posted on Nov, 7 2008 @ 10:08 PM
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So the one attached to my comp will work?reply to post by SkepticalSteve
 



posted on Nov, 7 2008 @ 10:09 PM
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Yes. Just leave the monitor on. When I was collecting data and logs to prove something I kept it on throughout the night without a problem.



posted on Nov, 7 2008 @ 10:09 PM
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Thank you so much for your suggestion and your prayers. You're a beautiful person!reply to post by seentoomuch
 



posted on Nov, 7 2008 @ 10:10 PM
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Okay and thanks. I will try that tonight!reply to post by SkepticalSteve
 



posted on Nov, 7 2008 @ 10:11 PM
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Originally posted by seentoomuch
reply to post by SkepticalSteve
 
Until you earn your bonafides and are qualified at the very minimum Masters level you could do much more damage than good giving advice without all the facts. Keep studying, stay with it, but I gotta say your response calling me sick for reminding you of your position is just another indication that you should let off the online express diagnosis.



Oh come on....

I think the people that jump to a paranormal answer for everything will do FAR more damage than ANYONE saying "Sounds like you are sick, maybe you have THIS!"

I have seen people 'diagnosing' paranormal solutions for things that could be everything from brain tumors and retina tears to skin cancers and mental illness.

In my experience it is ALWAYS safer to err on the side of modern medicine.



posted on Nov, 7 2008 @ 10:17 PM
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So you're a doctor now too? In case you didn't notice SkepticalSteve gave an actual diagnosis. He should have left it at "maybe you should see a doctor", which she has done. And actually I really believe the video camera is the best method at getting to the truth of the situation, don't you?



posted on Nov, 7 2008 @ 10:18 PM
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I totally agree. So here goes. I had a psychological examination, a CT a MRI seen a neurologist and had blood work up done. When I saw the psychiatrist I was told that though what I was describing had some components of DID or scizophrenia, I did not display enough symptoms to be diagnosed as having any of these. Nevertheless, I was put on anti psychotics to try and relieve the symptoms...nothing changed. My medicine was changed three other times with no results. My pychiatrist then had me go off the medicine and see a sleep therapist. More tests were run turning up ziltch. Only then did I look to an unexplained, er, explanation. Thank you for your comment.reply to post by HankMcCoy
 



posted on Nov, 7 2008 @ 10:33 PM
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Originally posted by seentoomuch
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So you're a doctor now too?


Would you like to know a little bit about my education?

With the course work for my undergrad degree, I had more gross anatomy experience than an M.D. does. I have literally seen and handled more bodies than your typical M.D. What separates me from an M.D.? 2 years of memorizing and specialization.

(I was not pre-med, for anyone that is going to ask.)

An M.D. takes your symptoms and consults tomes if he hasn't memorized the symptoms.

So no, while I am not qualified to say, "You have a tapeworm," I -am- qualified to say, "Sounds like you might have a tapeworm."

And, while I thought a video might prove useful when I first heard the story, I think it will merely show a person thrashing aroung in bed. It won't help anyone.



posted on Nov, 7 2008 @ 10:35 PM
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So my question becomes..

.. since your pastor told you it was a demon.. have you found a way to make it stop?



posted on Nov, 7 2008 @ 10:43 PM
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You are full of surprises, Hank, I didn't know your background/education, but I hardly think that is the case with SkepticalSteve, at least not for a few more years. As for the video camera, well, what do you suggest at this point, she has been to all the doctors and pastors and even a sleep center? A video camera when she is at home might produce an answer to her dilemma, it's worth a try, and who knows, maybe something "unusual" will show up on the vid?

Off topic note to Hank: One more "psychic" guess for your "what's on my monitor thread", a dirty sock?




[edit on 11/7/2008 by seentoomuch]



posted on Nov, 7 2008 @ 10:48 PM
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Originally posted by Jheysoda
So last night, the entity or whatever came back. I decided to take this time to ask questions.

Me: Why do you hurt me?

Him: Because you were going to leave the relationship.

Me: How many of you are there?

Him: The others don't matter, I was here first.

Me: What if I say that I don't want this anymore?

Him: I will hurt you.

Me: I don't care, I want you to leave forever.

Then the squeezing and pain came. I began cussing him out, (I should've been praying) and pulled myself out of the trance. I tried to move but could not for about two minutes. Once I was able to, I got up and walked around. I was scared that if I feel back into the trance he would hurt me even more. Though the pain is discouraging, at least I got some kind of answer. Now I just have to find away to make him and the others disappear for good. This entity is obvioulsy very possesive but tries to come off loving and caring. Of course I know this isn't the case. He did have sex with me this time, (he doesn't always) and it's so scary how ral it feels. Anyway, I just wanted to update from my original post and see what you guys have to say about it. Thanks for listening!


I must admit I am intrigued. You start off by say that it came back. While I have my doubts about the validity of this story, I would like to hear the history of you and this thing.

Could you tell us how you first came into contact with this being? Could you tell us previous stories? Do you know what it looks like? Sounds like?

Could we get more details in general? It would help us determine what is going on here.

Thanks

Dust



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