Untersberg - The Mystery Mountain

reply to post by Skyfloating


partially yes

to be precise i have read all the ` edited highlights ` of the expeditions .

plus blogs from people i know - write ups in caving journals i subscribe to etc etc

and the only ` wierdness ` from the area recently was the strange case of Dachstein booby trap

now you can take that story two ways , i choose to accept the mundane explaination

PS - i do not mean to be rude - but rather than ask me if i have read up on the expeditions - infering that ther may be paranormal activity , please post your evidence that cavers did have paranormal encounters beneath the unterberg

reply to post by BlueOrb

Double post


[edit on 16-11-2008 by Fett Pinkus]

reply to post by BlueOrb


Untersberg means under the mountain or in german unter dem berg

thats the way I understand it being german.


[edit on 16-11-2008 by Fett Pinkus]

This is one of the most fascinating topics I have encountered in a while. Thanks for the thread, Skyfloating. I look forward to any new information that may be presented.

interesting story! thanks

reply to post by delius


From what I read on the subject, team members must possess certain skills/abilities etc. I could possibly provide camera work but other than that I'm probably useless!

The results of the expedition will be interesting.

reply to post by thebox


i have been watching the " progress " of this ` expedition ` for 5 years now - its always ` going next year ` - but never does

also read the ittinery closely - only one day of 15 is in any way devoted to the " search " for the inner earth - and its not much of an effort

reply to post by ignorant_ape


I wasnt even aware of this particular expedition...nor of your interest in it.
Nor am I aware of any specific caver-reports on the paranormal. I have posted all reports I know about but will refrain from commenting on what I dont know about. So thanks for the info, time for me to do some reading.

reply to post by ignorant_ape


As is usually the case - bar flying over the north pole ourselves - we'll never truly know what's up there.

reply to post by thebox

These days, i think more about whats going on with the south pole. Well i mean, all the ice melting itself is so terrible... BUT it also leeds to the discover of what is/were down there...

awwwwwwwww i thought i would never get to the end of this thread and im devastated to find out that i have....anyway it died out all pretty quickly, but just like everything else on this forum, nothing can be proved/disproved in the lightest....that expedition btw sounds a bit of a joke to me, i mean it just seems like an excuse to make a few docos of which they will make some insane profits, and somewhere they will throw in a bit of the myths and stuff but they wont actually have anything interesting to show, i mean its wishful thinking at most,

reply to post by Anonymous ATS


Unfortunately, and rather ironically, this thread appears to have taken on the characteristics of the mountain itself - many different paths to take, some leading nowhere, and some leading to revelations, but on the whole, largely remaining an enigma!!!!!!

There seems to be a distinct lack of information available on the web, and i think everyone who has contributed has done well to find as much information and background as we have. There must be more info out there somewhere - it's just a case of finding it.

The hollow earth expedition is, as you rightly say, a load of old pants! I don't think that really helped with the continuity of the thread, and has contributed to the whole thing stalling.

If this can be turned around and back "on track", i think we need to concentrate back on the Untersber itself once more, and not get sidetracked by the whole Hollow Eart Theory in general.

Also, the alien thing referred to in some posts is another red herring - I don't remember us making any real alien connection to the mountain, only with reference to other claims of mountain dwellers, etc).

At one point this was going like a steam train, as information poured in - it would be a great shame to let it die out like this - so let's get busy and see if we can bring it back to life, in the positive way it continued for so long!

I must admit, i did mean to visit there when i returned to Europe at the end of November, but the mountain lost out to a nice girl in Paris.....

Maybe next time!

Originally posted by BlueOrb
reply to post by Anonymous ATS

 

I must admit, i did mean to visit there when i returned to Europe at the end of November, but the mountain lost out to a nice girl in Paris....

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Hi Orb ! In that case, its a good idea to keep you're mind on the topic
Enjoy the view from the "window"






[edit on 10-12-2008 by flymetothemoon]

My apologies if this has been posted before in this thread but I was poking around on a site mentioned I think on page 32 and tried a babelfish translation of the german and came across this.

Seems to be a pretty decent compilation of some of the Untersberg legends. What I found of interest was some of the descriptions of the Dwarves themselves. Namely:

"Small and tiny of shape its watchful hardly reaches the size of a four years old child. The dwarves have a manlike shape, are however ugly, their face color are black aschgrau or, that in relation to the remaining body excessively large head cover a breitkrempiger hat or the camouflage cap, the remaining body rough clothes of grey, often black or brown color."

Reminds me of the Grays. However also there is mention of them having beards though and that goes against the grays as far as I know.



Edited again to add:

Sorry for the confusion.

Here is the original legends page in German.

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reply to post by Deson


can you please tell me, why this text is mixed with english and german???

See the completely own shapes,
Those of the Unterberges outlined shows;
And you feel terribly a reigning
Bey the sight, which no and'rer resembles.

Seyd it hang-rose, in order to listen
At the marvelous mountain mouth,
Hear their it terribly down rush
In finstern unvermess'nen throat.

These high marble rock walls,
Resplendent in the color gloss splendour,
Brought its early end already to some,
Converging in the Schooß of the ew'gen night.

Mannichfaltig are the many legends
Its inside, its express world,
The out deep Vorzeit to us rises up,
Us a grey one nevertheless strikes.

Treasures are in this mountain gaps;
Oefters have Wand'rer it geseh'n,
To get they are not from the Grüften,
Even hope must after vergeh'n.

Courses of small men night pull
Toward the Kirchlein of Unterstein;
Blows those, which do not flee hasty "
Because they must also into their Reih'n,

Must also, and never released
Become, still none came back,
Immediately they must plae,
Those the Untersberger course inferred.

Emperor Karl the large one must stay
In the charmful mountain lock,
As vorbey centuries also hurry,
Solidification remains nevertheless its old Loos.

To once around the large board round
Dreymal wound itself its beard,
Then only it the release hour strikes,
As that armies, which geschaart around it.

And the marble walls open,
with that armies on the Walserfeld
The emperor pulls, and then is the end
Also at the same time come this world
????????????????


Nia

reply to post by NW111


"" tried a babelfish translation of the german ""

Babelfish is an translating service from yahoo.
I use it often when i don't get a sentence or some words.


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reply to post by coolvibe


oh .. :-) thx

interesting story.. in all points

Nia

reply to post by NW111


It's a Babel fish translation.

Main Babel fish site

It's not a perfect translation by any means but I figure it's enough for people (such as myself) to get the rough basis of what's being said. The German I imagine is where even Babel fish couldn't translate.

My German was never that great to begin with. My apologies.

Edited to add:

Oh, I see while I was replying someone else already covered it. Cool.


Edited also to add:

The stuff that deals with the Dwarves if roughly 1/4 of the way down. Just below the yellow text.




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i talked before about... that salzburg was before a ocean...

now i found at the end of the legend the name "juvavia"
this is the old name of the city which got destroyed by something...

here is the enxyclopedia link for it:

encyclopedia2.thefreedictionary.com...


strange city..strange mountain..strange life there

and the next funny thing:

one door of the mines shall be in "Feldkirch in Tirol"...
and where i life now you might be asking?
ha ha in Tirol..where else????


Nia
(and the crows followed me to my new home)
flap flap flap

I have just spent 16 hours reading this thread and have found it very interesting. Is anyone taking anything on here any further or is this all done now?