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Originally posted by 38181
I have a suggestion, READ THE BIBLE. You don't have to become a believer, just read it.
Originally posted by Michael Pait
Do you think he is in eternal damnation and do you think that was the intent of the people that crucified him. or do you think his soul is safe in heaven. i was wondering because all the heavy metals dipict jesus as some dark figure.
Crucifixion was used in Japan before and during the Tokugawa Shogunate. It was called Haritsuke in Japanese. The condemned—usually a sentenced criminal—was hoisted upon a T-shaped cross. Then, executioners finished him off with spear thrusts. The body was left to hang for a time before burial.
In the Fiftieth Session of the UN Commission on Human Rights (1994), local bishops reported several cases of crucifixion of Christian priests. Sudan's Penal Code, based upon the government's interpretation of Shari'a, provides for execution by crucifixion. The sentence has been passed as recently as 2002, when 88 people were condemned.
As of 2000, Yemen provides for non-lethal crucifixion of criminals, though this punishment is apparently reserved for those also condemned to death.
Originally posted by Rashaverak
If you're religious though, the answer is simple: "He died for our sin." However, if you're a scholar of written history, one would say, "Constantine and his mother, (St) Helena, were great catalysts of believable fiction for their time."
21 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. 22 On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?’ 23 And then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.’
Originally posted by Michael Pait
Do you think he is in eternal damnation and do you think that was the intent of the people that crucified him. or do you think his soul is safe in heaven. i was wondering because all the heavy metals dipict jesus as some dark figure.
Originally posted by jmdewey60
Originally posted by Michael Pait
Do you think he is in eternal damnation and do you think that was the intent of the people that crucified him. or do you think his soul is safe in heaven. i was wondering because all the heavy metals dipict jesus as some dark figure.
On Jethro Tull's Aquaman album he sings the song, My God and says "and the graven image (you know who) , you've got him fixed." Live, he says "the Catholic Church". They keep him on the cross so they can offer him as a sacrifice, every Mass. So, you can see why Metal, or whoever, can see him as a dark figure. Someone eternally suffering and dieing, over and over. They tell this lie to deny the living Christ, so they can usurp his throne and have their Pope sit on it.
[edit on 24-8-2008 by jmdewey60]
According to Islam, Jesus never died on the cross, nor ever wanted to die on the cross, nor ever was born to die on the cross. Muslims believe that Jesus was sentenced to death, and people thought that he got executed on the cross. The Holy Quran rejects this idea, and claims that it is a false one. Jesus never died on the cross, nor he ever died for anyone's sins.
It was capital punishment in the Roman Empire at that time.
Originally posted by Michael Pait
Do you think he is in eternal damnation and do you think that was the intent of the people that crucified him. or do you think his soul is safe in heaven. i was wondering because all the heavy metals dipict jesus as some dark figure.
Originally posted by 4x4fun
Sometimes it helps to be specific when refering to "the Bible".
There is the "Torah" which the Jews consider to be their Bible. Christians refer to this book as the "Old Testament" because in their view it doesn't apply to them, and you won't find any info on Jesus in it unless you're of the conspiracy mind.
The Christians consider their Bible to be "The New Testament.
You will find all kinds of info on Jesus in this book.
Then there is the "Book of Morman" which the Mormans consider to be their Bible.
The "Book of Morman has alot of info on Jesus too.
The "Koran" is another book that the Muslims consider to be their Bible and even has quite a bit of info on Jesus.
Of course there are many other bibles too.