BigFoot Found??? press conference scheduled.

reply to post by Max_TO


Thanks for the heads up...


I'll be watching

reply to post by space cadet


Interesting story, I've come across a few others that have made such claims.
Regardless of whether or not this story pans out I still believe in the possibility. I remember a psychiatrist on the news claiming his family had come across a "bigfoot', and the guy didn't seem like the average nut. I believe people are seeing "something" out there.

If these guys are hoaxing...which is possible...it's going to be a short trip because presenting the evidence will be blowing the hoax. I'll wait and see how it pans out.

- Lee

To all the people out there saying "If you have a body of bigfoot, why don't you just call some scientists out, and have them examine the body?", I answer thusly: Do you REALLLY think they would actually come out if you said you had a body of bigfoot frozen in your freezer?

Here's how the call would go:

"Hello, Mr. Anthropologist. My name is Sir_chancealot, and I have a bigfoot body in my freezer. I'd like for you to come out and examine it." *click* "Hmm... we must have got disconnected! I'll call someone else."

"Hello, Mr. Coroner. My name is Sir_chancealot, and I have a bigfoot body in my freezer. I'd like for you to come out and do an autopsy on it." *click* "Hmm... we must have got disconnected! I'll call someone else."

"Hello, Mr. Veterinarian. My name is Sir_chancealot, and I have a bigfoot body in my freezer. I'd like for you to come out and examine it." *click* "Hmm... we must have got disconnected! I'll call someone else."

Remember people, it took YEARS for the Wright Brothers to be believed. Everyone thought it was a hoax.

A long time ago, there was a science fiction short story about a guy who could levitate. I forget the title, and who wrote it (I think it was Isaac Asimov, but can't remember for sure). Anyway, this physicist wakes up one day, and finds out that he can levitate at will. So, he tries to get his physicist buddies to check it out. They all think he is crazy. So, he writes to the Army, and tries to get them to check it out. They think he is crazy too. He tries getting all these people to check it out, because he thinks that if they can understand it, they can duplicate it, and everyone can do it. Everyone thinks he's crazy. So, he goes and sees a psychiatrist. The scientist shows him how he can, through psychology, get people to believe him. So, he goes to a physics conference. Everytime someone speaks, he starts levitating in the back row. As soon as the speaker says something to him, he quits levitating, and then denies that he was ever levitating. This goes on more and more, and every time someone sees him levitating, he denies it. Finally, the government send agents out to check on the stories. He levitates in front of them, and then denies every doing it, saying they must be crazy. They finally end up saying something like "We know you are doing it, and you are trying to hide the fact that you can do it.", and talk him into going in to be "studied" to find out how he does it. Think about that, anytime you get the urge to go "Why don't you just call scientists to study it" on ANYTHING that is out of the ordinary.

I said to myself, if they don't produce a body, or produce reputable scientists who have examined the body, it's a hoax.

BUT HOW IN GOD'S NAME CAN ANYONE SAY THIS IS A HOAX, WHEN THEY CLAIM TO HAVE A BODY, AND SAY THEY ARE GOING TO SHOW IT ON FRIDAY?! I'd think if you were an actual skeptic, and not a debunker or shill, you'd at least wait until Friday at the news conference.

Think about this: If the reports of these guys' professions are to be believed, one of them is a police officer. If he is lying, can you just IMAGINE the field day the attorneys of the people he has/will arrest are going to have with this? If it is a hoax, he just hoaxed himself out of his career.

What I find additionally funny is the "debunkers" that are going "It's pretty coincidental that the pictures look just like a costume found on the internet", but yet they ignore the, literally, HUNDREDS of "coincidences" on 9/11!

to iterate: If they don't produce a body, or produce reputable people (anthropologist/forensic pathologist/veterinarian/coroner) who have examined the body, then AND ONLY THEN, can you have grounds to call it a hoax.

[edit on 15-8-2008 by sir_chancealot]

We had a run in up in Big Foot Country, just me, my son and the dog about 8 miles in backpacking. They don't like dogs, and my dog crapped his fur that night. I didn't need to see it face to face to know it was there. Once you've been near one, you don't ever forget it.

I really hope these guys have the real thing but I doubt it. These things are freaking smart. They "mess" with you on many levels, it's like they can get in your head or something, or smell fear, whatever. We were camped by a small lake, fed by a spring about 200' from us. Apparently this was his area, as he threw rocks near us, and made my dog FREAKED, in a way I cannot describe. It was either Big Foot, or a ghost, as we were the only people around. A few months after that, I did some searching of the area on the web, and we were not the first to have an experience there to say the least. Let's just say we haven't gone back, and won't.

Can't wait til tomorrow.

reply to post by sir_chancealot


Great story about how we program those around us how to respond to us.

Love the levitation bit...

These clowns make me sick,,,and this will be shot 2 for biscardi,,
Still cant beleive he is around after his last hoax/fraud.

Im sure the news conference will be a bunch of nothing,,

The photos in my opinion are fake as can be,
Why?

Because there crappy.
And there rate next to it..

Why dont they put up 1 b4 it went in the freezer?

Cant wait to see whats next with these cons.

If these guys dont put up they desever some serous heat.

the t-shirts and camping trips(499.00) turn this into fraud.

Heres an interesting reply at crypto:

keep in mind that if it is a hoax the state of California — and possibly Georgia — would have grounds for filing a criminal complaint. Making false claims for the purpose of realizing financial gains, classical fraud and bunko. Then there’s using the Internet for fraudulent purposes. Is Biscardi wiling to face possible prison time for a joke?

I hope theres repercussions for them,,especially Biscardi,,,

i also notice on rdyer678 profile on youtube he is quoted on replies""thanks for the t-shirt sales and then a swear word"

You'd think he'd be busy around the clock and wouldnt have time for his on going childish games.

Im sure it'll be a bunch of nothing tomorrow and I wish this would just end with there on going lies/fraud...

reply to post by knows_but_doesnt


Did you or your son smell it before you saw it? We did, I associated the smell to deer urine, it smelled a lot like my brother when he would go hunting ( and put deer urine on him to attract deer, gross IMO) but the smell was very strong.

reply to post by sir_chancealot



Hey there.

Nice write..

I could imagine it could be hard for some individual(s) to get expert or someone from the university to come look at it,,

Could be why they had to resort to a fake scientist.(Rics brother)

I personally thinking if he's a cop he could get someone there in a very short time period,,,(same day)

come on??
Give me a break...
I dont buy that..

I think If I had one(or found) I wouldnt have any problem getting experts here,,,(in a NY minute)..

I guess these good old boys are having a hard time getting anyone to beleive them,,,
Thats why they contacted an expert,,his name is Biscardi,,he's been known to nurse a bigfoot back to health in the past.

Your right though.

Proof/poof is when we see the evidence from them.

But you cant expect everyone to beleive this claim of theres especialy when some of us here done our homework and did research on these 'good ol boys".

I personally think Ric is in process of leaving the police department also.

As for those photos(as of date),,,,lol...

Im not holding my breath and already know how this will be played out at the news meet.

nice story you wrote though,,,
I should write one about Biscardi/Ric,,,in reguards to "The boys who cried wolf",,

well,,,hope those guys eat there Weaties in the morning and ready to lay there cards down..

Will be very fishy if they havent had any experts look at it as of yet,In 1 of there videos I beleived they mentioned had offers but they declined...

Hopefully in 10 hours this will be squared away and we can bury the hatchet then,,,,. lol

I listened to an interview on the radio this morning with this Bigfoot Hunter guy.

He says he has already given some tissue samples to get DNA tested and they are sequencing the samples currently.

He has also hired to Russian scientists who are flying over to the US to do a detailed autopsy of the Creature who he says are the worlds best for this sort of thing.

cant wait to see the DNA results and see whether the Bigfoot is related to us, apes, both, or something out of this world.

Does anybody else remember reading in ancient spritures to do with Sumeria and the like about a race of humans that were bout 7 foot tall?

what if these people were banished from society and somehow this is how they have developed over the eons/ages? just a theory?

what if they are the remnants/survivors of a downed alien craft a long time ago in our history? could be Chewbaccas family?

This Yeti, must be highly intelligent for it to not get captured for this long?

And if they have been around for thousands of years, theres must be like a huge population of them living underground all over the place!

Probability was say that there would be heaps of them everywhere.

I just hope big game hunters dont get too trigger happy and go hunting for these creatures for they are something that should be treated with the upmost care and respect.

Just my 2 cents worth.

reply to post by Melbourne_Militia

Dont get your hopes up to much son.

Scientist from Russia who are the best at this sort of thing,,,???

Am I to understand they must have done autopsied numorous bigfoots?

This story is getting weirder by the hour.

as for heaps and 1000's of them,,can I what kinda math equation you base that on?

Originally posted by sir_chancealot
To all the people out there saying "If you have a body of bigfoot, why don't you just call some scientists out, and have them examine the body?", I answer thusly: Do you REALLLY think they would actually come out if you said you had a body of bigfoot frozen in your freezer?

Just have to pluck some hairs and send them to several independent forensic labs, ask then to identify what animal its from and wait for the results

Originally posted by sir_chancealot
Anyway, this physicist wakes up one day, and finds out that he can levitate at will. So, he tries to get his physicist buddies to check it out.

So did they ever reveal how he did that? I could see that coming in handy...

Originally posted by Melbourne_Militia
This Yeti, must be highly intelligent for it to not get captured for this long?

Dimensional shift... like Nessie No bodies bones or scrap of fur ever found either



[edit on 15-8-2008 by zorgon]

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When I read your post I couldn't help but think of the episode of Monsterquest on History Channel about bigfoot where a creature in the woods was throwing rocks at the guys videotaping the show and at times hitting the cabin they were supposed to sleep in. Some kind of real phenomenon is taking place here.. But I'm truly skeptical of this particular story just because of how they are treating the discovery (If it really is a discovery).

And the fact that the nose in the "freezer photo" matches up exactly with bigfoot suits you can buy online as pointed out earlier is pretty hard to refute.

It sounds more like a publicity stunt. Sometimes people coming out with books or movies will do something like this in order to get people to buy their books and movies in order to see the "proof". A great example is the guy in Denver who sais he took video of an alien peeking through his window. (Don't remember if I mentioned this before or not).

www.abovetopsecret.com...

But he wouldn't release his "alien" video to the public until it came out on his alien/ufo DVD documentary (something like eighty bucks).

In the meantime he was able to produce quite a stir in the press about this and, likewise, get the word out to everyone to buy his DVD.. But doing that pretty much destroyed any credibility the guy had left which makes absolutely no sense if he really thinks he made some kind of groundbreaking discovery. It's that entire mentality that just pisses me off. (I must profit from this, I must get the credit for this discovery, etc..) It's really sickening and it's the entire reason paranormal / cryptozoological / UFO research has become laughable to most people when there truly is well-documented proof of something real going on with all 3.

If you use what you call "proof" in order to
1-profit off of it
2-emphasize advocacy of the phenomenon and spread the hype
3-get attention and/or recognition for the discovery for future book and/or movie deals

It's a load of $&^#!!
People can't honestly do things like this and expect people to believe them. It compromises any remnant of credibility you might have had in the eyes of the average person... And noone will believe it even if it IS a real discovery because there is a very logical argument that it was faked for profit, attention/recognition, to hype the phenomenon in order to make future profits, etc... This is the entire reason these kinds of phenomenon have been in the dark ages as far as mainstream science is concerned.

-ChriS

There is a thread somewhere here that asks the question "have any predictions on ATS ever come true?"

I predict 100 percent that this story is a hoax.

When you have an already proven hoaxer involved what else do you need?

I also predict the news conference will be very disappointing to those of us looking for proof.

Originally posted by BlasteR
If you use what you call "proof" in order to
1-profit off of it

There is nothing wrong with profiting from a good story or find...Its HOW you profit that makes the difference...

reply to post by Melbourne_Militia

He has also hired to Russian scientists who are flying over to the US to do a detailed autopsy of the Creature who he says are the worlds best for this sort of thing.

i must have missed that - in the blather of this case

are these ` russians ` identified by name ????

just my humble opinion - but i believe that you could get a perfectly acceptable autopsy preformed - and a detailed report and correctly prepared samles done by any number of zoo vets in the georgia USA area

flying in rissians makes zero sense - esp if the body is now no longer in cold store

thier last " scientist " they " flew in " turned out to be a fake

Originally posted by ignorant_ape
flying in rissians makes zero sense - esp if the body is now no longer in cold store

It does if these "Russians" need to take it with them to their lab..




Hey this isn't one of your kin is it

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ringing people ` out of the blue ` and opening the cono with " hi i have a big foot body in my freezer " is sure ot get a negative response

however :

< rings vetenarian >

me " hi my name is ignorant ape , and i just found an ape corpse "
vet " really ? "
me " yeah - it looks like an orangutang or gorrilla - are any missing from the zoo ? "
vet " i am not sure "
me " can you come out and take a look ? i will pay yoout call out and corpse removal charge "
vet " i will check who is availiable "

once you have the vet there - and pay his callout charge in cash - before he has chance to bolt - then you can discuss bigfoot

and if he has a real cryptid corpse in front of him - it is going to peek his interest

simple social engineering goes a long way

A man running around the mountains trying to catch them is like a weekend warrior gym rat trying to win a one on 2 game against NBA players - it ain't gonna happen.


I had initially hoped this story would of turned in to something, but now it's a snowballs chance in hell.

For those who missed my montage about 10 pages back here you go again.


The first phote is the freezer shot, the second is the costume same side profile tilted 15 degrees to match the freezer shot better, and the third is the costume front. While I didn't get the sizes perfect - you can see the geometry of the features matches a little too well.



[edit on 15-8-2008 by verylowfrequency]