Russia/Georgia Situation News & Updates

Originally posted by West Coast

Originally posted by Russian Boy
Yep and you just giving ignorant , arogant and straight forward american point of view.Well done

It is only ignorant and arrogant because it does not meet your approval. That is rhetorical answer and does not need a response from you. I already know who you are, and what side your allegiance is to. Russian boy.

I want unbiased, substantial facts and figures.

Infact it was always a Usa strategy to apply their point of view, their democracy etc.. , and if you do not obey by these and do not follow them then you are an enemy and you are not on the course of freedom and democracy and bla bla bla ending with war in some cases . Or i am wrong here many people will agree with me , even you but you wont admit it of course i dont blame you

Also read this...
informationdissemination.blogspot.com...

reply to post by jetxnet


Actually, you've just reminded me. I saw a copy of today's UK Daily Telegraph before, and the front cover headline reads: 'Russia starts ethnic cleansing,' or something very similar.

I think the editor of the Daily Telegraph might want to avoid eating in sushi restaurants for the foreseeable future.

Originally posted by chips
I think the editor of the Daily Telegraph might want to avoid eating in sushi restaurants for the foreseeable future.

Quoted for truth!

Sky News: Russian news agency says Russian President claims military operation in South Ossetia is near conclusion.

i might not be able to write as well as everyone else does here, but Im trying to be honest with myself and not show off , this is about real people dying in their homes with their babies sleeping next to them,

I believe in a God, and I don't understand how this stuff is allowed to happen, and do not even want to go there because I love the lord,

not everyone is a liar and yes
some of us are stupid
but I care about innocent lives being taken away
especially this situation right here

We should be sending troops into help rescue those people buried in the rubble like all those other countries did for us when the towers fell.

I have no problem with Russia, NONE, and I might be an idiot compared to you science head, but I don't have much respect for people that kill babies when they are sleeping

wrong wrong wrong wrong....

Originally posted by Muppetus Galacticus

Originally posted by chips
I think the editor of the Daily Telegraph might want to avoid eating in sushi restaurants for the foreseeable future.

Quoted for truth!

Sky News: Russian news agency says Russian President claims military operation in South Ossetia is near conclusion.

Really Georgia just started shelling again though

Originally posted by Interestinggg
"Those Georgians should be disarmed for committing such an atrocity to their neighbors."
Only not so long ago they weren't neighbors but part of Georgia.
Look at the map dude it hasn't been updated it still says part of Georgia.
Do you think the fed would let southern California just become a republic or become part of Mexico?

The NATO Pact annexed Serbia's Kosovo & Metohija province despite signing UNSCR 1244 in 1999 which re-affirmed Serbia's territorial integrity over her province. This is what ended fighting. It's like taking Oxfordshire from England or Normany from France. It is madness and a reneging on a document they themselves signed. It is with good reason that NATO Pact regimes and their media have serious credibility issues right now.

Abhazia and Ossetia are not even provinces, they are republics and have a pretty good legal case for independence (arguably) like Slovenia, FYRM Macedonia, Montenegro had in former Yugoslavia (despite it being against the Yugoslav constitution but that's another story).

Russia's presence is Ossetia is a legal one. They had a UN mandate to keep peace while the political dispute was settled. They never illegaly violated Georgia's territorial integrity which makes Saakashvili's surprise attack not only barbaric but utterly utterly stupid. Like I said previously, he wants the land but not the people that have lived there for centuries. Makes his claim of sovereignity over Ossetia even more fragile.

[edit on 11-8-2008 by blablablaxyz]

1st 800 soldiers from Iraq have arrived

On August 11, 2008 13:03
American military aircraft moved from Iraq to Georgia of 800 Georgian soldiers
Moscow. On August 11. INTERFAX.RU - the aircraft of the military transport aviation of the USA from Iraq moved 800 soldiers of the Georgian armed forces, reported to journalists on Monday the deputy chief of Russian general staff Anatoliy [Nogovitsyn].


“Into Georgia from Iraq are moved 800 soldiers with combat materiel. The military transport aircraft of the USA for the transfer of Georgian soldiers carried out eight voyages”, said [Nogovitsyn].

source: www.interfax.ru...

reply to post by -Rugged Shark-


Good find man

Ooh look:

SKY NEWS/REUTERS - BREAKING - RUSSIAN ARMY: Two more planes shot down over Georgia.

I'm going to go with my gut feeling: I think Russia is going to advance into sovereign Georgian territory.



[edit on 11-8-2008 by chips]

“Georgia’s military campaign in South Ossetia aims primarily at solidifying domestic support for the Saakashvili government, while drawing international attention to the country’s ethnic conflicts. Tbilisi knows very well that the violent reoccupation of the breakaway region is not a realistic option, bearing in mind that the majority of the population holds Russian passports. Therefore, the Georgian government is seeking a limited war that could possibly lead to new negotiations between Tbilisi and Tskhinvali. Moreover, Tbilisi was well aware that Moscow would face a difficult dilemma: if it did not respond to Georgian attacks, the Kremlin would risk its credibility; on the other hand, if the Russian army launched a counterattack (as it finally did), it would be subject to accusations of invading a small pro-Western country.

www.pravda.ru.
Here what we stand at

How expensive are one of those planes?

That would be 17 planes then shot down by Georgian forces?

Well here is an attempt at explaining what is going on from an American who is on the ground in Georgia. If this is true, then I am in total support of Russia defending the people from the genocidal Georgians.

reply to post by jetxnet


More breaking news - Georgian President: Russia wants to topple Georgia and its administration.

Like I said, Jet, I'm going with my gut: I think Russia is going to advance in sovereign Georgia.

[edit on 11-8-2008 by chips]

reply to post by jetxnet


yup with su-200 Ukraine rocks

I am just not going to buck it up and side with our government on this, screw the government right now,

as a world that has gotten a lot smaller in the last fifty years we need to pay attention to stuff like this, we should be allied to prevent human loss, not profit, or to gain territory.

The Russians offered them away out and the persist on shelling, they are committing suicide, and bringing murder upon there civilian population. I cannot imagine that if I murdered a thousand or more people I could call on anyone to come to my aid when the people I didn't kill came after me
for it

for some of you it seems your like "hey lets go get Russia"
that is stupid,

They would massacre us in two days, we aren't as bad as you think we are, they have missiles that fly 5000 miles and hour with nukes on the tips, how and why would you want that ?
We are the ones that pushed them into designing this kind of weaponry, all that money we spent to be on top, they had to counter.

This conflict cannot be allowed to grow out of control ,
one way or another it has to be stopped...

reply to post by West Coast


Wonder how much Russia paid him! lucky
U.S uses this tactic all the time so does others to show them as the good ones

Thanks for the news Chips, that was my feeling too from the beginning.

Russia is using the conventional tactics of going into sovereign territory.

As for the American in that video, we don't know his background or what he is doing in Ossetia. Russia has had full-control of the region for some time now.

Your average MIG-31 goes for US 57 Million$. Granted, the ones shot down may not be MIG-31s, but nonetheless, Russia is losing millions each time for each plane.

Randy, why doesn't Russia reseach energy instead of using that money to create warplanes costing 57 milion$ a-piece?

[edit on 11-8-2008 by jetxnet]

And if anyones is intrested :

Sorry couldnt find an English version yet only Russian. you can use Altavista/Babelfish to translate the web page

USA admits having a base near Tshkinvali

Basicaly it says how Usa/Cia trained and planned Georgian army to invade South Ossetia, and giving more details on this matter

reply to post by Rentor


That was my first thought upon seeing that video earlier on this evening.That's the bad thing about a war, it's hard to believe any side of it really. They all want to be seen as justified in what they're doing.