Russia/Georgia Situation News & Updates

Rice talking non sense again...

US: Russia cannot stop NATO expansion
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Rice's comments come while Moscow has repeatedly criticized NATO plans for an eastward expansion, which is an open breach of a NATO promise made to the last Soviet Union Secretary General Mikhail Gorbachev upon the union's 1991 dismemberment.

Exactly. That and the anti-missile shield agreement, and the putting of offensive weapons on countries bordering Russia, Kaliningrad to be clearer.

U.S. candidates lash out at Russia

"It's absolutely important that we have a unified alliance, and that we explain to the Russians that you cannot be a 21st century superpower or power and act like a 20th century dictatorship," Obama said before adding: "We have to recognise that the way they've been behaving lately demands sharp response from the international community and our allies".

“Russia has now become a nation fuelled by petrodollars, that is basically a KGB apparatchik run government. I looked into Putin’s eyes and I saw three letters – K, G, B. The aggression in Georgia is not acceptable behaviour,” he stated, adding, though, “I don’t believe we’ll go back to the cold war, I am sure that will not happen”.

Not very surprising...when both have Brezinzki as their foreign advisor... one have the original and the other have the son.

Yeah, we won't go back to the cold war, because it will be a hot war. We know that the US military don't see Russia as a threat and if they decide one day to go for it all and strike Russia, they aren't afraid to do so...

[edit on 29-9-2008 by Vitchilo]

Dr. Felgenhauer says Russia is preparing for nuclear war.

Russia challenges west with nuclear overhaul UK Guardian

"This is very significant. Right now the present Russian leadership believes that a war with Nato is very much possible," Pavel Felgenhauer, a Moscow-based defence analyst, told the Guardian. "This is the first time since the collapse of the Soviet Union that the Russian military is actually preparing for an all-out nuclear war with America."

Meanwhile looks like the Georgian conflict has emboldened the Chechens.

Intelligence Guidance: Week of Sept. 28, 2008 Stratfor

Stirrings in Chechnya: A civil war in Chechnya is building up between the Kadyrov and Yamadayev factions. We need to see if the Kremlin can clamp down on this quickly enough to prevent another full-blown Chechen war and to prevent outside powers from jumping into the fray. If a war does erupt, what’s the potential for it to spread to Dagestan, Ingushetia and Georgia in the northern Caucasus? Most importantly, will the United States see instability in Chechnya as an opportunity to tie Russia’s hands? We need to look for signs of U.S., as well as Saudi, involvement in Chechnya. The Kremlin will be moving quickly to try to lock the situation down.

Georgia's Involvement in Iran War Will Jeopardize Russia's National Security - Patrushev

(Source: Daily News Bulletin; Moscow - English) MOSCOW. Oct 1 (Interfax) - Moscow says that the involvement of Georgia by the United States into a military operation against Iran will pose an additional threat to Russia's national security.

"If it decides to carry out rocket and bomb attacks against Iran, the U.S. will need loyal allies. And if Georgia is involved in this war, this will pose additional threats to Russia's national security," Russian Security Council Secretary Nikolai Patrushev said in an interview that will be published in the Izvestiya newspaper on Thursday.

When asked what he thought about a theoretical situation whereby Georgian President Mikheil Saakashvili confused U.S. far-reaching plans to carry out rocket and bomb attacks on Iran from Georgian territory, Patrushev said: "If the U.S. does decide to begin an armed aggression against Iran, then Georgia is not the only place, from which they can theoretically attack the country. But your version too has the right to exist."

"And the U.S. president's speech at the United Nations General Assembly contained words of gratefulness to Georgia and Ukraine for courage and sacrifice," said the secretary of the Russian Security Council.

(istockanalyst.com)

[edit on 1-10-2008 by chips]

Updates:

Ukraine involved in illegal arms trade – Timoshenko
The Ukrainian Prime Minister, Yulia Timoshenko, says her government has information that Ukraine is involved in the illegal arms trade. The statement came after conflicting reports about the final destination of ‘Faina’, the cargo ship that was transporting Ukrainian T-72 tanks to either Kenya or Sudan when it was captured by pirates.

Timoshenko now have ammo to bring down that NATO puppet Yushenko.

Ukraine’s parliament on the brink of dissolution
Ukraine's political parties have failed to meet the deadline to create a new parliamentary coalition after the previous one ceased to exist a month ago. So President Viktor Yushchenko can now dissolve it and call a new general election.

Timoshenko will take power...

Council of Europe: Georgia used ‘disproportionate force’
The war in South Ossetia was the result of a serious escalation of tension and a worsening of the security situation, says the draft resolution of the Council of Europe's Parliamentary Assembly. It also recognises that the shelling of Tskhinval by Georgian forces led to full-scale military action.

As we knew... the war was started by Georgia.

Some body's trying to destabilize the cease fire.
news.bbc.co.uk...
Six killed in Georgia explosion


[edit on 3-10-2008 by all2human]

A top general says Russian forces will begin to withdraw from a buffer zone in Georgia on Wednesday and should be out within 24 hours.

Source

The city of Evian is on the border between France and Switzerland. Security there has been tightened for the inaugural three-day meeting of the World Policy Conference which began on Monday.

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The climax of the conference is the much anticipated meeting between France’s President Nicolas Sarkozy and Russia’s President Dmitry Medvedev.

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Now for something completly different, but that can be seen as a sign of the relations between Russia and other countries (specially "western" countries) and of the situation of the Russian economy.

Meanwhile, in the latest of a series of moves, Iceland’s government has taken over the country’s second largest bank to save it from going to the wall. Russia has also agreed to a four billion euro aid package for the Icelandic financial sector.

Source

Thursday, October 16, 2008

US warship to dock at Georgia's Poti

Georgia is to welcome an American guided missile destroyer to the country's port of Poti as the number of such disputed visits increase.

On Friday, the USS Barry (DDG-52) is expected to berth at the seaport on a 'good will' visit to be the fifth US warship to have docked at the Georgian ports since Georgia fought a losing battle with Russia in August.

Russia claims the trips serve ulterior purposes saying the vessels could be taking weapons to Georgia in line with Tbilisi's recent cause of regaining its firepower following the war with Russia thus gathering the required strength for another attack.

The accusations come to reinforce the previous ones in which Moscow claimed that Washington had been training the Georgian forces for the August attack which was launched so Georgia could regain control over the independence-leaning republic of South Ossetia.

Upon the September arrival of the USS Mount Whitney at the same port for 'humanitarian purposes', the Russian Foreign Ministry accused Washington of fueling the 'aggression' of the Georgian President Mikheil Saakashvili's regime.

"Naval ships of that class can hardly deliver a large amount of aid. Such ships of course have a hold for keeping provisions for the crew…. How many dozens of tons of aid can a ship of that type deliver?" Russian Foreign Ministry spokesman, Andrei Nesterenk had said about the Mount Whitney's visit.

The Georgian defense ministry would send its delegates to pay homage to the USS Barry which is expected to remain in the area until Monday.

(Press TV)


Wednesday, October 1, 2008

Russia: Georgia's involvement in Iran War will jeopardize Russia's national security

Moscow says that the involvement of Georgia by the United States into a military operation against Iran will pose an additional threat to Russia's national security.

"If it decides to carry out rocket and bomb attacks against Iran, the U.S. will need loyal allies. And if Georgia is involved in this war, this will pose additional threats to Russia's national security," Russian Security Council Secretary Nikolai Patrushev said in an interview that will be published in the Izvestiya newspaper on Thursday.

When asked what he thought about a theoretical situation whereby Georgian President Mikheil Saakashvili confused U.S. far-reaching plans to carry out rocket and bomb attacks on Iran from Georgian territory, Patrushev said: "If the U.S. does decide to begin an armed aggression against Iran, then Georgia is not the only place, from which they can theoretically attack the country. But your version too has the right to exist."

"And the U.S. president's speech at the United Nations General Assembly contained words of gratefulness to Georgia and Ukraine for courage and sacrifice," said the secretary of the Russian Security Council.

(istockanalyst.com)



[edit on 16-10-2008 by chips]

It looks like things are being overshadowed - in the media at least - by the world wide financial crisis.

At least Russia flooded the markets with cheap oil and drove down the prices. That should help make things easier on all of us.

Hopefully the crisis will decrease the likelihood of military action.

Originally posted by bodrul
reply to post by manson_322

 

problem is the United states goes into other countries medeles in their affairs and then walks out.
they tell others that is a Bad idea and no nation should do this,
yet they do it anyway.

With the US/Israel and Iran issue
looks like we have a new cold war coming our way

War did bring the US out of the great depression
guess this is how they will fix their econemy again

same can be said about russia during world war 2 as they came out a world power having the second strongest economy in the world.

Originally posted by Vitchilo
Rice talking non sense again...

US: Russia cannot stop NATO expansion
...

Rice's comments come while Moscow has repeatedly criticized NATO plans for an eastward expansion, which is an open breach of a NATO promise made to the last Soviet Union Secretary General Mikhail Gorbachev upon the union's 1991 dismemberment.

Exactly. That and the anti-missile shield agreement, and the putting of offensive weapons on countries bordering Russia, Kaliningrad to be clearer.

U.S. candidates lash out at Russia

"It's absolutely important that we have a unified alliance, and that we explain to the Russians that you cannot be a 21st century superpower or power and act like a 20th century dictatorship," Obama said before adding: "We have to recognise that the way they've been behaving lately demands sharp response from the international community and our allies".

“Russia has now become a nation fuelled by petrodollars, that is basically a KGB apparatchik run government. I looked into Putin’s eyes and I saw three letters – K, G, B. The aggression in Georgia is not acceptable behaviour,” he stated, adding, though, “I don’t believe we’ll go back to the cold war, I am sure that will not happen”.

Not very surprising...when both have Brezinzki as their foreign advisor... one have the original and the other have the son.

Yeah, we won't go back to the cold war, because it will be a hot war. We know that the US military don't see Russia as a threat and if they decide one day to go for it all and strike Russia, they aren't afraid to do so...

[edit on 29-9-2008 by Vitchilo]

its possible to be superpower and have the west as your enemy (cold war). americans are playing the anti-russian dilema..like always.

Dutch: Russian cluster bomb killed journalist

A Dutch government investigation has found that a Russian cluster bomb killed a television cameraman in Georgia in August, the Foreign Ministry said Monday.

Russia denied using cluster munitions during its brief war with Georgia in August, but human rights groups say both sides unleashed the widely denounced weapons.

Dutchman Stan Storimans, 39, died while filming the fighting in Gori, Georgia, during the conflict over the breakaway province of South Ossetia.

A Dutch investigative team sent to the spot two weeks later to gather forensic evidence and eyewitness accounts concluded Storimans was killed by a munition "propelled by a type of rocket that is only found in Russia's military arsenal," the Foreign Ministry said.

Foreign Minister Maxime Verhagen called the findings "very serious."

"I have made that clear to the Russian authorities," he said in a statement. "Cluster munitions must not be used in this way. There were no troops present in Gori and innocent civilians were killed."

Cluster bomblets are packed into artillery shells or bombs dropped from aircraft. A single container typically scatters some 200 to 600 of the mini-explosives over an area the size of a football field.

They have been criticized by human rights groups because they kill indiscriminately and unexploded ordinance poses a threat to civilians similar to that of land mines.

Georgia has acknowledged using used ground-launched cluster munitions near the Roki tunnel, which connects South Ossetia with Russia.

In May, more than 100 countries agreed in Dublin, Ireland, to ban cluster bombs within eight years. But neither Georgia nor Russia signed the accord.

Verhagen said the Netherlands plans to raise the matter with the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe, which addresses arms control issues. Both Russia and Georgia are members.

"The Netherlands will call for a political statement to be issued in which member states pledge not to use cluster weapons in situations of this kind," the ministry said.

Storimans, a veteran newsman, was killed while filming on a large square in Gori, which was nearly deserted. Several Georgian civilians died in the same attack, according to reporter Jeroen Akkermans, who was working with Storimans. Akkermans suffered minor injuries.

His employer, RTL Nieuws, is ultimately owned by German media conglomerate Bertelsmann AG.

AP

I've said it before, footage of the explosion on that square indicated to me that it was a clusterbomb, the big question was who it belonged to.
Atleast now we know and I'm sure that in the months to come we will find out more about the conflict.

[edit on 21-10-2008 by -Rugged Shark-]

Just a quick post to say that Sarkozy, speaking on the European Parliament, said that Europe has dealt with the Russia/Georgia crisis and put an end to it.

He also said that the US did not liked the European action and that Russia's intentions were to take down the Georgian government.

I just saw it on Euronews, and he is now taking about the credit crisis, maybe someone can later find a video or transcription of what he has just said.

Breaking:

Georgia says Russia deploying troops in S.Ossetia

TBILISI (Reuters) – Georgia said on Thursday that Russia had deployed 2,000 extra troops in South Ossetia in the past week and was preparing to stir up more trouble in the breakaway territory.

Moscow dismissed the charges.

"In the past week, Russia increased the number of troops by 2,000 to 7,000 staff," Georgian Interior Ministry spokesman Shota Utiashvili told a news conference.

"We fear Russia is preparing provocations in South Ossetia," he said.

Asked for his reaction, Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said all of Moscow's troop deployments to the region were openly declared.

"It's very difficult to comment on official declarations of Georgian representatives because there is very little truth in them," Lavrov said in Moscow.

Utiashvili said dozens of Russian armored vehicles had been positioned in the disputed Akhalgori region, the southeastern corner of South Ossetia which Georgia insists should be returned to Tbilisi's control under a French-brokered ceasefire deal.

Russia sent troops and tanks into Georgia in August to repel an offensive by the Georgian military to retake pro-Russian South Ossetia, which threw off Tbilisi's rule in 1991-92.

Russia's forces drove the Georgian army out of South Ossetia and then pushed further into Georgia.

The West condemned Russia for a "disproportionate response" and Russian troops have since pulled back from buffer zones around South Ossetia and a second breakaway region, Abkhazia.

The Kremlin has recognized both rebel regions as independent states and said it will station 7,600 troops there to provide security -- a figure Lavrov repeated on Thursday.

A 225-strong European Union mission is monitoring the ceasefire, patrolling the former buffer zone around South Ossetia up to its de facto border.

Russia says the mission will not be allowed to operate inside South Ossetia.

Lavrov also called for better cooperation from the European monitors, whom he held responsible for the security of the two regions, to prevent what he said were continued violations of ceasefire agreements by the Georgian side.

"Russia is concerned they are taking a light-hearted view of the situation of what is happening there," Lavrov said of the EU observers.

"This is a dangerous game with fire," he added.

(news.yahoo.com)

Bush doing something really really stupid...

US confronts Russia with sanctions

The US has placed its relations with Moscow in jeopardy with its imposition of punitive measures against major Russian companies.

Bush...

Georgia: blast kills mayor near separatist region

Georgia's Interior Ministry says an explosion killed the mayor of a small town near the separatist region of Abkhazia.

Ministry spokesman Shota Utiashvili says authorities found an antenna near the blast site and suspect the explosives were detonated by remote control. Mujhava Mayor Gia Mebonia was inspecting a house damaged by overnight shelling when the blast hit early Saturday.

Video taken after the blast shows several people wounded on the ground and screaming villagers fleeing. The ministry spokesman blamed the attack on Abkhaz separatists and their Russian backers. A Russian Defense Ministry spokesman in Moscow says he had no information on the blast.

Georgia launched an attack in August to regain control over the breakaway region of South Ossetia. Russia repelled the attack and drove deep into Georgia.

AP

Looks like things are heating up again...

I saw this today on Euronews, an interview with Edouard Schevardnadze, where he is, obviously, asked about the situation in Georgia.

Is it dejavoo all over again? Dated Thursday, April 16, 2009

Russia Deploys the Black Sea Fleet

Russia has sent an official notification to NATO’s general secretary, Hoop Scheffer, proposing that "all upcoming military exercises planned in Georgia should be postponed or canceled.”

informationdissemination.blogspot.com...

[edit on 19-4-2009 by pluckynoonez]

reply to post by pluckynoonez


It is from a blogspot, can anyone debunk this? Nothing on RT about this

www.russiatoday.com...

No one is interested in this development?

The tickerforum is talking about it...

tickerforum.org...

I know NATO hate Russia and the whole thing about being friend with Russia is BS. Ukraine want to kick the Russians out of Sevastopol so they can be a NATO member and NATO could put a fleet there... being very threatening for the Russians...

Georgia... they continue to support his crazy lunatic... anyway, business as usual from NATO, especially with Zbrezinski behind Obama.

Russia seems to wake up from the fake Obama promises and charisma.

[edit on 19-4-2009 by Vitchilo]