U.S. Intel: Iran Plans Nuclear Strike On U.S.

Lest anyone forget. 6 LIVE nuclear missiles were shipped out of Minot Air Force Base on a B-52, but only 5 live nuclear missiles arrived in Barksdale Air Force Base.

Remember that when the "Evil Iranians" proceed to "launch a nuke" at the U.S.

reply to post by voices1776

I think you are on the correct bearing as for assessments. Many people would rather choose not to face the ...FACTS...

1979, Iran seized the US Embassy, Tehran. US hostages held 444 days.
1983, Beirut. 220 US Marines killed by Hezbollah terrorists.
1993, New York. World Trade Center attacked by Islamic terrorists.
2000. USS Cole attacked by Islamic terrorists.
2001, NYC, WDC, Pa. Over 3000 killed by Islamic terrorists.
2004, Madrid. 201 killed, 1400 wounded by Islamic terrorists.
2005, London. Islamic terrorists kill 52. 70+ wounded.
____,Tomorrow. Chaos.

...am I seeing some sort of trend here? Give terrorists the opportunity & they will give their lives for heavenly bliss.

Let me explain what "Hudna" means in the Islamic faith. Hudna is a means of entering into a covenant or peace treaty with an enemy whereby concessions & strength are gained.
All of the "Peace Accords" do not mean a bloody thing. Jihad comes in many ways, pen finance, sword, etc. Islam came to establish jihad. Jihadiya teaches martyrdom.

All too many westerners have fallen into the abyss that Friedrich Nietzsche afore spoke of. People had best become adjusted to their maladjustment's, and keep their heads in the sand. Survivors can pass them bye.

Originally posted by theblunttruth
reply to post by Harlequin

 

Israel, hasn't threatened the anihilation of another country. Thats my point.

Israel is a democratic country. Thats my point.

Israel doesn't hang and stone its own people. Thats my point.

Isreal is believed to have had nukes for the last 50 years, has it used them once?

Iran can't even treat its own people right, what makes you think they give a damn about landing a nuke elsewhere.

Tell me what do you actually know about the doctrine of the current regime of Iran? My guess is next to nothing..

Hear my point, I'm allergic to bull#.

hear my point, I'm very aware of what your doing.

Be aware of that

STOP it too.

I have no doubt that Iran is trying to build a crude atomic weapon as quickly as possible. In my opinion, they want to do what NK did - detonate one and then say "OK, now let's talk". Look at NK - now the US is talking about removing them from their list of state sponsors of terrorism and lifting sanctions etc. NK and Iran see a nuclear weapon as a bargaining chip.

To suggest Iran strap a nuke to a missile and fire it anywhere is beyond a joke - suggesting they would fire it at the US (even if they could) is downright insulting to people's intelligence. Well. most people's. They are not stupid. They would never, ever, be able to produce enough nuclear weapons to seriously threaten anybody, and this idea that they might throw a couple off to kill as many infidels as possible and guarantee their place in heaven is laughable. They would also not give one to Hezbollah to use - because they know Israel would wipe them off the face of the planet.

I actually think we do need to get serious with Iran, and soon. But there really isn't any need for this crazy scaremongering - Iran are doing a good enough job by themselves with their own behavior.

Originally posted by theblunttruth
reply to post by Harlequin

 

Israel, hasn't threatened the anihilation of another country. Thats my point.

israel HAS threatened to destroy iran - , in contrast the president of iran has said the zionist regime in jerusalem must be removed - like the regime in the soviet union was removed.

you know without violence

Israel is a democratic country. Thats my point.

only if your zionist jewish , any other jews or other religions are treated like cattle

Israel doesn't hang and stone its own people. Thats my point.

no it lines them up and shoots them , or hangs them or electricutes them.

what difference?

Isreal is believed to have had nukes for the last 50 years, has it used them once?

it loaded them ready for use in the last arab-israeli war - and have you heard of the samson option? if israel is threatened to be overun in a CONVENTIONAL war , then all enemies past and present will be detroyed with nukes - and that means germany

Iran can't even treat its own people right, what makes you think they give a damn about landing a nuke elsewhere.

israel can`t treat ANYONE right - using chemical weapons in gaza , running tanks over women and children - all in teh name of a land grab.

Tell me what do you actually know about the doctrine of the current regime of Iran? My guess is next to nothing..

ROFL i have forgotton more of the history and current affairs of persia and of course the modern iran than you will ever know.


heres 1 for you:

BP - that company called British Petroleum was formed in 1954 from the previos company - the Anglo-Iranian Oil Company

this is about OIL and nothing else.


i would also suggest you read up on Operation Ajax as to the WHY they hate the west so much.

i dont say that our govermentis telling the truth and i dont say that they treat us good but im sure that iran willnever attack any country.if you seein our past,we only defending ourselves.

That is so much BS. Go ahead and keep the people in fear and write crap like this. Are you insane? The US would obliterate Iran in a minute. They may be Muslim, but they are not stupid.
Go write your sci-fi snippets why gullible people might take you for more than the fool you are !!!!

Back in january I mentioned the clock is ticking with this problem, just wonder if it is already to late to deal with Iran, the minute they start hiding plutonium in thier caves the world can say to itself, it is to late, time is key with this issue and its running out quickly, Iran knows this and is doing everything it can to kill time, the world needs to wake up, and real fast, before it is to late.

reply to post by Harlequin


Harlequin your a joke!!!

You know more about "persia" than i will ever know!!!!

Then you know that Iran has never been called Persia by anyone but the Western world, the people of Iran have always called it Iran since the period of Sassanid rule.

The fact is your knowledge of Iran is nothing, as you proved yourself again....Shoma farsi baladid? No i dont think so. Grab a book and actually read! Your Michael Moore BS isn't going to enlighten you on the truth!

Regarding operation Ajax, im fully aware, if you see my previous posts (which you haven't bothered to do). Your zeal and haste need to be toned down to be objective.

Iranian people do not hate the west, the government dislike the west due to its religious doctrine, this is the main reason. You need to differentiate the people of Iran from the government. We are infidels to the government. Why did they establish Hezbollah Harlequin?

Im in no denial that Iran was handled inaapropriately by the west in the past. But you cannot let that distort the way forward.




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Originally posted by theblunttruth
the government dislike the west due to its religious doctrine, this is the main reason. You need to differentiate the people of Iran from the government. We are infidels to the government. Why did they establish Hezbollah Harlequin?

Where is your evidence? Who actualy said that ? What were their names who said this? Is there any reason as to why the Iranian government feel the way the might do even??????

Its nothing to do with religion, something the elites want us to bicker about, and fight about to kill each other. Not working anymore Don't even start that crap.

Anyhooo to the point. Iran and its government do not like the western world imposing their power over them, as they have done over the last 50 years. That is the problem here, not religion. I mean it has been complete lack of respect on their part. The west has continuesly stepped over the line, just to get what it wants. Oil. Dont talk BS again please

America has constantly created and pushed for unstability in the middleast, purposely for the acts coming to fruition today. Bluntruth you keep forgetting to talk the full picture. I'm really allergic to half arsed stories. The government has EVERY right to disrespect the west. I as a westerner can have empathy with that. Do you understand, guess not!

Im in no denial that Iran was handled inaapropriately by the west in the past. But you cannot let that distort the way forward.

So then you come out with this? if you did you wouldn't be talking nonsense in the first paragraph, about blaming the Iranian government for mumble jumble..

There done

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Do some research on the Iranian regime and then we'll talk Mind is Universe. I suggest Keddies "Roots of Revolution", its objective and accurate.

In the meantime may i also say for the 100th time im not denying the US has gotten its hands dirty in the middle east, for its own benefit. Just like Iran is doing in Lebanon and Palestine. I dont hear you condeming that though!?

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Originally posted by theblunttruth


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Why are the Americans elites concerned.

I still don't buy what you say, You have lied and manipulated on this thread already. So not going to trust your nonsnese, even if it were partially true

I mean come on..............

Originally posted by theblunttruth

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Do some research on the Iranian regime and then we'll talk Mind is Universe. I suggest Keddies "Roots of Revolution", its objective and accurate.

In the meantime may i also say for the 100th time im not denying the US has gotten its hands dirty in the middle east, for its own benefit. Just like Iran is doing in Lebanon and Palestine. I dont hear you condeming that though!?

[edit on 5-8-2008 by theblunttruth]

Oh you completely changed your paragraph almost,

Oh...... Hmmmm.

reply to post by ThichHeaded


you believe everything? What about the help the old U.S.S.R. has given them mabey a bomb?

Dig up Colon Powell, he can shake a uranium rod at the U.N. on live TV.

Have a credible guy sit behind him, like Dick Cheney or Rummy, or Wolfizwitz or Chertoff or Rice or dig up Nights of Malta Tenet again for old times sake.

Then have Gen. Petraeous put forth a plan, reading directly from a WH memo faxed to Faux News so Hannity can read along also on the split screen.

Bring out Dr. Zac and have him point to an Egyptian on live TV and waste him with a taser shotgun, because Muslims are Evil doers.

I agree with a lot you about the status of Iranian nuclear capabilites.... but there was one post that implied that Islam isn't bad..... and that the PTB shove that concept down our throat; well I'll tell ya.... islam is BAD.

It's just an opinion so don't flame me... everyone has an opinion just like everyone has a [blankity-blank].

-Euclid

reply to post by DREAMING MAN

I think you are on the correct bearing as for assessments. Many people would rather choose not to face the ...FACTS...

1979, Iran seized the US Embassy, Tehran. US hostages held 444 days.
1983, Beirut. 220 US Marines killed by Hezbollah terrorists.
1993, New York. World Trade Center attacked by Islamic terrorists.
2000. USS Cole attacked by Islamic terrorists.
2001, NYC, WDC, Pa. Over 3000 killed by Islamic terrorists.
2004, Madrid. 201 killed, 1400 wounded by Islamic terrorists.
2005, London. Islamic terrorists kill 52. 70+ wounded.
____,Tomorrow. Chaos.

...am I seeing some sort of trend here? Give terrorists the opportunity & they will give their lives for heavenly bliss.

Dreaming man....

Let me first say your name fits you like a glove because you are really living in self-constructed fantasy.

Those events combined; the number of people killed due to Islamic Fundamentalist terrorism since 1979 totals around 3500 deaths, and that's a generous estimation.

You want to play the statistics game, here's some figures for you:

Korea, 1950 - 100,000 "leftists" and peasants killed by US backed regime.

Iran, 1953 - The US overthrows democratically-elected President Mossadegh and replaces him with a puppet, "The Shah", who is more receptive to US/Anglo-Oil Interests in the region. His CIA-backed secret police, the SAVAK, torture and kill upto 40,000 dissidents and "leftists" until his overthrow in 1979.

Guatemala 1954 - democratically elected Jacobo Arbenz Guzmán is overthrown, right-wing Military Junta installed, executes upto 50,000 "traitors" & "Communists"

Iraq 1963 - The Ba'ath Party led by Abdel Karim Kassem (Saddam's cousin) comes to power with the CIA's help, and is given lists, locations and weapons to rid the country of Communists.

Chile 1973 - Democratically-elected President Salvador Allende is overthrown in a coup with CIA backing and replaced by the right-wing, military dictator Augusto Pinochet who proceeds to lock up, torture or execute anyone he claims is a Communist for around 15 years.

Afghanistan 1980's - The epitome of one's mistakes biting them in the ass, CIA provides widespread arming and funding of Mujahideen militias to deter Soviet Occupation, the same Mujahideen who later formed the vicious and cruel Taliban regime and provided a save haven for Osama and Al-Qaeda.

Nicaragua 1981-1990 - CIA provides arms, funds and training to the right-wing Sandinista Regime (known as the Contras) who executed over 80,000 Nicaraguan civilians. The funding for the Nicarguan Operation came from profits made via secret arms sales to Iran during the Iran-Iraq War.

Total number of dead, thanks to US-backed regimes and dictators?

Over 400,000. And that's only relating to the above covert operations mentioned.

During the Cold War, America undertook a widespread and concentrated effort to back every Right-wing nutjob and his party on the planet in a bid to stop "Communist Aggression".
en.wikipedia.org...

Of course, the only thing these dictators and terrorists had in common with the US was that they hated Communism, the similarities stopped there.
Most of these regimes would have made Stalin envious of their totalitarian nature and absolutely brutal, unrelenting methods used to quell rebellion and dissident uprisings.

Tell me now... Do you see a TREND here?

You talking about Islamic Fundamentalism, which is not only a very recent phenomenon compared to America's long history of terrorism sponsorship but is a piss in the ocean compared to the amount of death and destruction the US is indirectly responsible for.

Apples and friggin' Watermelons here, prioritise your attention.

Your worried about Islamic terrorists, the majority of which have directed their aggression at other Muslims, when the biggest terrorist in the world is in your own backyard.

If anyone is not facing facts here it's you. Ignorant of the sad, misguided history of America's political friendships with some of the worst regimes and terrorists in history.
You reap what you sow...

All of this is coming back to bite America in it's authoritative ass, and people all of a sudden forget history and past events and instead narrow-mindedly focus on the present, where all they can see is Muslims committing terrorist acts on Western interests.

If people like yourself bothered to look a little deeper, you would see America's spending spree during the Cold War did nothing but to embolden extremists everywhere and swell their ranks and now with no Communist enemies left to fight they make new ones.

Western ones... and America tastes it's own medicine for once.

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Bruce CathieAccording to Bruce Cathie successfully sending an exploding atomic warhead is an impossibility.

"One of the most startling facts that I discovered by application of grid mathematics was that an atomic bomb is a device based on the geometrics of space and time. To be successfully detonated, the bomb MUST be geometrically constructed, placed on, under, or over a geometric position in relation to the Earth’s surface, and activated at a SPECIFIC TIME in relation to the geometrics of the solar system. I found that it was possible to precalculate the time of various bomb tests, and the locations where it was possible to explode a bomb.

According to the mathematical complexities of unlocking the geometric structure of the unstable material constituting a bomb in order to create a sudden release of energy, I realised that an all-out atomic war was an impossibility. Both sides could precalculate well in advance the time and positions of atomic attack. Plus the fact that only certain geometric locations could be devastated anyhow. A logical war cannot be considered under these circumstances. This could be the explanation for the proliferation of conventional weapons in modern warfare."

Originally posted by BaileyKat
I have no doubt that Iran is trying to build a crude atomic weapon as quickly as possible. In my opinion, they want to do what NK did - detonate one and then say "OK, now let's talk". Look at NK - now the US is talking about removing them from their list of state sponsors of terrorism and lifting sanctions etc. NK and Iran see a nuclear weapon as a bargaining chip.

To suggest Iran strap a nuke to a missile and fire it anywhere is beyond a joke - suggesting they would fire it at the US (even if they could) is downright insulting to people's intelligence.

Check the history of this issue on this very site, you will find hard data that Iran "bought" russian cruz missles several years ago.

There is no such thing as a "crude" nuclear bomb........it works or it doesn't the only difference is physical size and yeild...........

Iran has the technology, the delivery capability, and the will...............

Try looking on the FAS website...........