[HOAX]They're real.[HOAX]

Notice how the OP logs back into the site every so often just to check up on the thread, yet does not respond or follow up with u2u's. He is probably happy that he has gained so much attention for himself. I personally am going to stop reading this thread it is pretty obvious it is a hoax; hopefully the mods will label it so.

reply to post by jasonjnelson


no worries, I just to ensure the chain of custody, as it were.


Folks, while it might appear as if the images were manufactured or the story might appear to have holes in it or whatever else it is that makes you think this is real or not, please give the member the proper courtesy and respect we all expect to receive when we post. Let him read my u2u and contact me as requested. I'm sure he wants to show everyone that the images are real and the story is real and berating him or calling him a hoaxer is not going to resolve anything.

The simplest explanation, if this is not a hoax, is a black ops military aircraft, not aliens.

How do I see u2u? I recieved one messege and had a bright u2u button on top. Now that button is gone and I don't know how to get back there.

Originally posted by trog81
How do I see u2u? I recieved one messege and had a bright u2u button on top. Now that button is gone and I don't know how to get back there.

Click on 'MemCenter' and there will be a U2U link on the left hand side of that page.

Edit-- beat me to it =P

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I haven't seen anyone post hard proof that these images are not real, only proof that any image can be reproduced with the proper technology to look almost exactly the same (seeing how hollywood does it on a regular basis), I still give this the benefit of the doubt. I'd say 2 things would be good in this case, at least to start.

1. The original images
2. An image of the spot where the first picture was taken, to prove if it was taken from inside or outside.

As always, I still say that even if we can prove it's real, it's useless, you either believe it or you don't, facts don't seem to amount to much in this "day and age."

-Skeptic... Perhaps

reply to post by LordThumbs


Not being too materialistic or snobbish...can't afford to be either.

It's just that when this goes down, or when disclosure occurs, I want to be blown away (not literally, and yes, I think I needed to point that out to this audience) by their physics, technology and even culture(they probably got drugs that make peyote seem like sugar free bubble-gum, and philosophical insights that make Nietzsche's seem childish...).

Or maybe none of that, as they may have attained a higher level of consciousness that encompasses not a single piece of earthly intellect or ideology.

And yes, the color is more familiar to the movie than the shape of the craft...

reply to post by SkepticPerhaps


In one of the previous pages someone showed that the picture was taken two days earlier.

Other than that....this is so freaking obvious...i mean come on ppl...!


I admit,when i saw the first picture i thought "we might have something here" but when i saw the second one it was all over.

I'd give some time and some faith to someone who posts something decent but this is crazy.Imho this thread should be locked allready.

It's a squashed UV Sphere. Being a 3D Graphics artist, that's the first thing that popped into my mind.



From Blender 3D Wikipedia (Blender 3D is an awesome, completely FREE! 3D Graphics and animation program)

-Jimmy

why is everyone saying they cant see anything? mine come up as big as my screen and I can definately see what you mean dude... holy CRAP those are good pics

I'm going to say these are hoaxed pictures. Reason being that the objects surrounding the UFO are blurrier and more digital-artifact-compressed looking than the UFO in the pictures. The fine spider-like lines around the UFO are very sharp, which I do not believe would be the case if the images were real.

This looks like a background image used in a 3D modeler program.

You construct the craft (this looks like an absolute beginner shape) in the program and input a background image to render over. You position the light source and render the image.

It looks like it might have went through a hue layer effect or something similar along with some transparency.

Program? Blender. (It is free).



Boo.

gnuwin.epfl.ch...

Originally posted by 1nL1ghtened
Interesting photos...first thing that came to mind was a 3D modeling. It looks like a wire frame model used in 3D rendering...

Really hard to say..the JPEG compression is terrible but here is a series of filtered images for contemplation:

1. Actual photo with no enhancement

2. Photo with auto levels filter

3. Photo with auto contrast filter

Especially noticeable in the last picture...the JPEG compression does not seem to be tampered with. Having said that, it is still possible that the image was super-imposed "post" compression... ie. before locking the layers...just some arm chair observations.

Curious indeed...







[edit on 7/28/2008 by 1nL1ghtened]

[edit on 7/28/2008 by 1nL1ghtened]

Great work on the photos.



Star for you.

Look at the second photo. Invert the colors and zoom in . There is a grid distortion on the left side and the middle torroid is not lined up with the the 3d mesh models theories. Alot of grid distortion= messed up 3d model or inertia distortion.

If I had only seen the first picture, I wouldn't have been able to say that I was suspicious it was a fake. In the second picture though, the object just looks out of place and apart from the background.

yea man I already said/showed this like 3 pages ago! do people even bother to read the threads or just post thinking they are the first!?


quote]Originally posted by jimmyjackblack
It's a squashed UV Sphere. Being a 3D Graphics artist, that's the first thing that popped into my mind.



-Jimmy

reply to post by OneLifeTooLive


I had read several pages, this thing is 7 pages long though and I didn't want to have to read though the whole thing.
You also made the comment that it looks like a UV Sphere?
I'll check that out.

-Jimmy

That spaceship looks kinda gay. What if aliens were gay?

There's nothing wrong with gays BTW.

Originally posted by OneLifeTooLive
Thats true, but when the aliens happen to make their UFO out of a mesh that happens to look exactly like a nurbs sphere from Maya or Max is when the BS detectors fly up! Im NOT a skeptic but this kinda stuff does more harm than good IMHO.
Not to mention the other inconsistency's with the story it unfortunately doesn't add up.

Aha! So you didn't mention it being a UV Sphere!
You may be asking "What's the difference?".
Well a UV Sphere is a polygon created piece of geometry, controled by the vertices (add ons such as latice modifiers and other tools can be used to edit the sphere on a much broader range, wedgit object deformation is also used, as is seen here...).
A Nurbs sphere is controled by cuvers however (though it is still a polygon piece of geometry), however it is not a whole, seamless structure.

Honestly, I believe this may have very well been don in Blender 3D (www.blender.org), simply because of the shading and lowpoly design of the object (3d max is a POS, seriously, I have a copy, it's nothing compared to Blender).

Fakes are easier than ever to create these days, always be watchful of them, if it looks too good to be true, then it probably is (sadly).
Don't be too fast to say it's real or it's a fake, these things because of the sensitive nature should be subject to massive scrutiny and testing.

-Jimmy