Celebrity Stargazing

A reply to all of you sharing the same webspace..

I as a stargazing 'fan' with my very own strong opinion, I'd feel very much like being take the micky out of, if this theory would be any near true.

I am not the person that supports that kind of underhand behaviour by anyone -when manipulated by any government or otherwise-, not even by one of my favourite singing performers. If and only if such theory would be true, I'd do my best to make myself 'feel better' and make sure I'd get my hard earned money back that I as I'd feel wasted on cd's by selling them on ebay for example. I would not want to have 'objects' in my house by performers that after all seemed to be not sincere nor real. Them cd's were bought in the first place because I like them and the performer's art, not because I support conspiracy in such way, because I don't.

I would feel completely sorry for myself that I been showing my 'adoration' to this artist by buying cd's, when it turns out it would be a situation like the Chuck Barris story for example.

Being a bigger 'Madonna fan' then a 'Robbie fan', I had 'problems' with her turning to kabbala, but who am I to judge on someone's believes or religion. (I don't even wanna bring up the adoption affair). However when it would turn out that Madonna is a by government manipulated spy to do what so ever this government asks, I'd sell all of her cd's, books and posters I have too.

Seeing Madonna's Confessions on a Dancefloor tour live, I do not believe this is the case as she dared to shout openly *snip* president Bush and more of that.

And then.. I do not believe Robbie is in service of any government, grins, it was a question that more or less came up after White Star's post, if people before me also seriously had similar questions, no one dared to say it literally out loud and openly (maybe?) because of various kind of paranoïd thoughts. I assume..



ps. I have been reading the whole thread, and others to this subject, several times. I won't shut it and keep spontaneously reacting if I feel to do so, this still is a freely(?) speachboard for people who have interest for conspiracy theory!

If other Robbie fans are offended by what I wrote, to me it's only their own way of narrowminded tunnelview.. If I personally have offended the person being center subject, I will have my thoughts going on that..

reply to post by enlighten2012

hey, now im really curious...smile..ok, stop beeing lazy...naaaaaaaa...i dont want offend you..

Originally posted by enlighten2012

and re the spy theory....this comment is so ridiculous....stop att seeking.

[edit on 14-8-2008 by enlighten2012]

thank you so much for that...
i got that feeling that some ppl not interested what we talk about because they just came and bother..

thats a fake video what you think...it reminds me on x-files...nothing against x-files...im addicted on mulder and scully..smile.....but this video looks soooo hokey..


@s_erendipity...i dont know why they are out of focus..bad cam..bad light-..fake?...but something else..i just read that they blamed microsoft...that they produce that kind of videos because they want to promote a new x-box 360 game called Halo 3 ...its a rumour i've just read...

i just read through the latest posts and really think it is so interesting, that ppl always tend to assume government conspiracy just everywhere. dont mean to offend, i am always for being considerate and going through the world with "open eyes", but c`mon...
even if celebritys would be assigned by the government, to talk about aliens etc - what would it change? it doesnt change any facts. those little earthly "conspiracys" are just sooo inconsiderable and so `whatever` compared to everything that might be out there...

reply to post by Storm_Indigochild


I agree with you - the complete 'spy theorie' of Whitestar was more one little joke...
And nobody here wants really to bother someone...

reply to post by secret-dreams


i'm not easily offended no worries
o.k i will when i have a spare 10 hours! figure out how to post link here...just for you

oh and re X-Files..heard from other threads its not that good. will watch and make my own opinion though. did they (celebs) do justice to the unknown in this movie, maybe not though they def did in the series. we watched closely to the 'posibilities' and prob used it as our 'source' at the time (prob not what ufologists want to hear though true).

oh dear. people - relax for god's sake. had i known being a believer means you have to get rid of any sort of humour i wouldn´t have posted my comment. of course i don´t believe for a single second c.o.a.b. is a government spy. but this seemed to be a site full of theories about what couldt be so all i did was to word a not to be taken serious theory about what could be, nothing else.
but as it seems my twisted sense of humour isn't welcome here i apologize to everybody, esp. c.o.a.b., in case i offended him what i very much doubt.

It is a pity,
had hoped one would have understood me here.... meanwhile I am used to it.
Not from this level?
Always on the search, always, the struktuierte life assumed what one of me expected... broken out. something was in me, but what?? Why have I never got an answer?? On the contrary, one has taken my trust from me, my love to me. have I ever loved each other myself? Doubt. Doubt about truth and untruthfulness. who is right? my heart? which? I did not feel it any more. My mind? Which? because where numerous imagination was stacked in it? to itself this resisted round me to understand? Why also, they also did not understand me. Understood me only if I believed myself like a puppet, led by Möchtegernwisser! I doubted everything. Fear came. Stealthily... sleepless nights. Fear of the darkness. . this long dark tunnel... the feeling to be lost. Shortly before the sleep what pulled me on the feet. tried to pull me from my bodies. Fear. I knew it does not feel well... spoke with me, what told me about love. was so cold... was no love. wanted me. my strength. my power which I did not know. Nobody could help me. everybody spoke of dreams... keep up, my only thought, it became stronger. Help in request, got tips, said, it is an angel.... An angel? no. Truth... what is the truth.... Besides, I was to be given up me. To go well-thought-out to the clinic. Give me a new head with normal thoughts. I lay on the ground and stood with a leg in the hell. Wept. desperately. According to shouted. Where was I?? Where was Sandra who could play with your hips which had only played anyhow... Was this the calculation?? But, nevertheless, I have only looked. They got always closer, these dark figures. I could touch them. I caught in to fight. dreadful fights. The beings which I have never foreseen. Should this be my way? please not. I caught in to pray. The God if there are you help me. I was tormented. Today I know, it was my way I had to go around of reaching there where I stand today. To recognise what well and is angry. To help person who are ill, physically as well as spiritually. And I know what I have searched. Although I have not found it on earth yet, I know the feeling of my angels. It is warm, tangentially naive, nice. If my angel whom I can also touch with myself is, oh one, is nice he, bright, honestly bedinungslos. We laugh, tell, they have checked to me the curing begebracht, I know the poverty, I have not forgotten as it is and it does not become. They give me the security which I need. I believe. They have taught me to trust myself. My work is based only from the heart. If I am ready, I am a person. My angel, takes me, comforts me, in the times where I fight immernoch, not with my fear, but with those of others. Partially feel I me alone, then he takes me in his wings and gives to me what I search here on earth. Love. He loves me as well as I am, I must not pretend, I can be strong sometimes and be weak sometimes. It goes by the whole body and in winter I switch off the heating. I know it this will give for me also on earth, somewhere. If he says it me, I believe it. Until now everything was right what he told me and he protects me. I have already got to know extraterrestrial, good, as well as bad ones. Unfortunately, there also is nastily. They have no emotions like us. They are struktuiert, they do not know the love. They know no music. They try to crib it from us, but you lack the emotions. Though, therefore, they can produce tones, but no melody. Some tell, they are friends. The friends against whom I might fight with my angels then because they have tried to take the earth in your possession. They scan us, clonen to us, put on Illussionkappen. They are cold. Coldly like metal. They appear as more and more often because the world has just got cold. Power has become the subject. Where the imagination is the still elves and fairies knew. There is only monster. Children play already with it and give you unaware strength. I

Children play already with it and give you unaware strength. I know it extraterrestrial that gives, one was himself already in such a space station or, as usual, it calls. They were nice. Have observed me. My angel was always present. He was very sceptical. I naively. He was right. they were nice to me because they had used me. I have fought 2 weeks ago with you. It was one of my heaviest fights and I owe God and my angel that he protects me. I have fought against clone of myself. When I was at that time on top, were there many people. I erinner me, I had filled quite many bubbles on the tongue with water. There was anyhow so much water. This is why it went. They have your planet almost only of water existed, something else is also contaminated liquid and wanted to have our earth. I have three friends who experience the same one like me. I could not work, many told me the last week, they are so tired, exhausts, funnily on it...... I hope, one understands what I mean. Please, are careful. Remembers, they have no emotions, not everybody feel well. If she does not pull. Vieleicht we should start to change people first. Looks to You at the rain forest, The children who have to eat nothing our structure, thought determine the life and thought are off sick to us. I am persuaded of the fact that many think I am not quite clear, or...... it makes no difference to me.

Sunny greetings Sandra

sometimes i am really scared by this thread - sorry i have to admit it
i would never judge a person by his/her believes.

but thanks white-star for the sense of humor –  guys don.t take everything to serious!
i wouldn.t s start seeing a conspiracy in everything and every given fact, would keep me busy all day, besides the guaranteed conspiracys

@secret-drea,s nice video - i assume that the guy who has done it got access to some trick technology like star wars or star treck, but nevertheless nice to see
i doubt it is a real one, there are to many hoaxes around and i can.t judge a video of youtube, even if they would tell me: IT IS REAL
yeah might be might not be

but what are we actually discussing? celeb stargazing? some have quoted from the net that there had been a lot more celebs watching ufos – got a conspiracy at home for some reason, cats and family won.t allow me to think properly - interrupting all the time – which is great!
i for myself would be rather careful about claiming people might being govermental "spys" or bought by the goverment, or even worse having certain mental illnesses and hearing voices as a telepathic training program – i know that telepathy is real but if ufology should get more reputation by the average people, if we want to get more people to belive, or follow or just taking part in the subject – everything which might let the subject lose credibility should be avoided!
the average citizen has his problems with drugs and psychologists - just be aware of that!

reply to post by engel08



I get your point.
But what you describe, is nothing outside of your own creation.
If you have contact to spirits which are unemotional and evil,
you have to look inwards. This is your own subliminal fear became manifested in forms of energy

reply to post by orange-light


You`re right!
...but is it a wonder when there are so many charlatans
in esoteric circles? People don`t know what they should
believe or not

reply to post by Cosmicsly


That's cool My sincere hugs go out to you

reply to post by White Star


Your twisted sense of humour was very much inspireing and made a lot of whirlwinds go around within people who post 'regular' this thread. I was already afraid that this thread had died before your post, LoL.

reply to post by engel08


I hope you will find the rest soon to have peace, your story was very honest, sincere and emotional!

Originally posted by orange-light

but what are we actually discussing? celeb stargazing? some have quoted from the net that there had been a lot more celebs watching ufos – got a conspiracy at home for some reason, cats and family won.t allow me to think properly - interrupting all the time – which is great!

Only for this I owe you a virtual hug, that was really nice expressed..! Aswell the things you wrote that I didn't quote.

For all others, I don't care if you want it or not I wish you any way:

Love, Peace and Soul on a Rolll..!

See you around

Hi - i new here, not good in english, but I hope you can understand I mean.
This last nights in our country we can see much falling stars, it was very interesting, yesterday night, about midnight, i stay with friends in my pool and we look to the sky to the falling stars - we see more than 20 - suddenly my two cats sitting on roof and begin to querrisch to cry - we have a look on them and near them are two consoltating falling stars - but the stars don´t fall, they stand - I think for 30 - 40 second - and then they go up to the sky - we are very confusion. nobody knows what happend now - I think, this was two ufos, my friends think this was a hallucination - what do you mean about this?

rena

reply to post by engel08


it hears very fantastic, what you write - i´ve read also your last post and have also a look on your page - if I combine your words in a few sentences for my own dimension - pls correct if I did understand - you´ve contact with a good angel and in the last time (how long?) are some dark figures, which make you cold and have a fight with you. and your opinon for this occurrence is - this was extraterrestrial. and the extraterrestrial are not good for human, they want all good things and bring for the human race only destruction

reply to post by chrisonabike


I know that was not the same thread you´ve write this and ve also read, you dont´t answer some questeions but The proof of the pudding is in the eating.

In addition to this sightening, there was another very strange occurance I witnessed one Friday night about 5 months ago. My friends and I were playing a song called Arizona (about ufo's) that we had written. It was dusk and, suddenly, a big ball of light appeared over the san fernando valley. We were standing on my balcony at the time. When the song finished it disappeared .......when we played it again it came back on...once again, when the song finished it disappeared.......this happened 4 times.

Do you and your friends test it more better than 4 times? or did you end after 4 time? And do you test it to another time also ? And if a cohesion song/sigthing do you mean they feel to approach from the song ?

rena

The OP mentions Robbie Williams.
When is he coming back? Mark closed his thread because Robbie was getting real busy with other things, but since then it hasnt been re-opened anymore.

I guess he aint coming back here.

EDIT: I saw Rob was online 37 minutes ago, so consider my post unwritten.
Id still like his thread getting reopend btw because its a fascinating sighting.

Ontopic: I hope more and more people being known all over the world would look into this ufo topic and if they do come out in the open with it. People idolise other people and if someones idol considers it with an open mind, the fan is more likely to do it too.

[edit on 15/8/08 by TheNetherlands]

reply to post by TheNetherlands


the thread is open and the topic is celebrities and how their speaking out impacts ufology. not just robbie but all of them. That said, the one man that he is, he sure has introduced a hell of a lot of new people to the subject. I've noticed a few of these newer members slowly making their way into threads that don't contain posts by a certain singer.

Originally posted by AGENT_T
reply to post by chrisonabike

 

Do they not still go by the 'Any publicity is good publicity' motto?

Maybe a producer or a manager or two would be put out,but I don't think an established fan base will be the least bit bothered about what their 'pop idol' believes in.It won't stop them buying if they're into the music.

I don't get the difference anyhoo.. Isn't a pro musician,actor or sportsman allowed to have interests outside their career?

I even believe that fans will look at a subject with much more open-mindedness if theyre idol believes in that particular subject.

So i guess a celebrity coming out of the closes regarding his or hers believes and what not can do much more good than bad.

Lets for an example take robs fanbase.
Because he believes there will be fans that would think about it, instead of laughing it off. Of course people will laugh about him because of what he believes but those are people that were never going to believe anyway so what is the loss, or damage to the ufo world?
Nothing. If only one of his fans will research the subject because his or her idol believes it then you already have a win-situation.

You cant turn non-believers into non-believers because they already are, but you can turn a non-believer in a believer. So there is only a positive siside of a celeb coming out with his or her beliefs

Originally posted by chrisonabike
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I think i said it before but no im not worried about my career....I've had my time in the sun(no pun) time and time again...my career should'nt really have happened...Ive done the biggest stadiums in the world and sold more records than i could have ever imagined.....if it ends tomorrow i've had beyond what we would call ''A good run''...I'd rather not have a career than have to mind my P's and q's (metaphorically speaking)...for the rest of my life....

Your career should not have happend? Then id have to get trough the day without some beautifull songs like Feel and Advertising Space? Your career was meant to be, Mr Williams, believe me!